If Khan has any real aspirations to beat Floyd then he does need to test himself against a genuinely good welterweight which does not include Hatton. No way should he fight Berto type opponent but Brooks would be a better alternative for Khan.
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If Khan has any real aspirations to beat Floyd then he does need to test himself against a genuinely good welterweight which does not include Hatton. No way should he fight Berto type opponent but Brooks would be a better alternative for Khan.
Because boxing is Amir Khan's career and life as well as your viewing pleasure. He has certain goals, the ultimate being a fight with Floyd Mayweather. Thus it makes sense to have a fight at 147 before going for Floyd, and it would be foolish in the extreme to set up a potential stumbling block before such a huge event.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
I do understand what you are saying but you can look at Hatton and think as to why he should fight him? Hatton has no title, or no real names on his record. Fair enough it would be a keep busy fight and a victory for Khan however I just feel even if Brook doesnt have a title he would be a better win for Khan prior to a potential Mayweather show down. I do feel Khan does need to fight Peterson and clear up the 140 weight class with a fight with Bradley, which would be a strong test for Khan. Lets hope Brook can have a big fight next and build a stronger name, would be good to see him in with Khan in the near future.Quote:
Originally Posted by onoBut there would be no point in fighting Brook until he at least holds a title. So Brook needs to fight Semchecnko and beat him. Then he needs to defend it and build up some sort of following outside of Sheffield. Then there would be real interest in a Khan - Brook fight. No point in rushing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam SeddonI just believe if Khan is to take on Floyd at 147 a fight with Kell Brook would be a good UK fight before he has the fight in america. Kell Brook is a good 147 fighter and I feel that Khan is at the stage in his career that he should be having big fights. He should be taking risks against good fighters because he is at the stage where he should be fighting good fighters every time. Beating Hatton at 147 proves nothing, beating Brook does. Brook is a top ranked fighter, Hatton isnt. I think Khan has enough class to get by Brook and he should take the risk IMO. I think a victory over Brook would be good for Khans resume, hes an undeafted prospect that brings something to the table.Quote:
Originally Posted by BilboQuote:
Originally Posted by Tam SeddonI think for a fighter like Kell Brook he could do with fighting Khan for a high risk fight which potentially could go either way for him. He has got talent, and if he risked that to try and land a big fight with khan you never know how it could go. As a 147 fighter he is good and for the uk fans it would be a much better fight than a Hatton showdown.Quote:
Originally Posted by LeightonThis fight would not be fair on Kell Brook. He needs a challenging fight in the top 10 before he takes on the elites of a devision.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
I agree that Matt Hatton would be a waste of time. Khan should go straight to the top and fight Berto, Ortiz, Mosley or Mike Jones.
What should realy happen is that Khan and Bradley should fight and whoever wins should take on either Pac or Mayweather.
I do understand what you mean that it wouldnt be fair for Kell Brook to take a big risk, because Amir Khan is a very good fighter and the loss could potentially ruin his career because he does have the capability to grow stronger in the 147 weight class. But if Amir is planning on having a UK fight I would prefer it to be against Brook not Hatton.
But Kell is a top ranked 147 fighter now and he should be reaching high.
I don't understand how the risk would be worth it for Khan either.
He's only been at 140 for a few fights, and if he moved to 147 it would be for one reason...Floyd Mayweather.
It would be a stupid move imo to fight a really live guy as a tune up for Floyd. Why risk getting derailed and seeing your multi million pound payday go up in smoke?
For what exactly? If he fought Brook and won, well Brook was unproven, probably not world class after all. If he fought and lost, then no Floyd fight.
I don't understand the logic of some fans on this site. What they really want is for Amir to lose. And thus they want him to face the guy that they think poses the biggest threat to upsetting him. Hatton is no good, Khan will easily win that, so let's go with Brooks, more chance of an upset.
But Khan doesn't want to be upset right before a megafight with Floyd. It would be a pointless risk. He can fight Floyd, and then fight Brook after.
To his absolute credit however Amir has never ducked any fighter. He took on the biggest puncher in the weight class in Maidana. He then offered Bradley an unprecedented 50/50 split to fight him even though he generates around 80 percent of the income and now he's fighting Peterson, in Peterson's back yard.
He's more likely to go for Brook anyway, as his heart overules his head.
But Hatton would be a sensible choice for a test the water fight at 147. He has the rest of his career after a Floyd fight to take on Kell Brook.
If Khan went.....Peterson, Bradley (or a move up to 147 if Bradley won't take the fight), Hatton, Brook, Mayweather, i'd be fairly happy with that.
No fighter has a megafight every fight, especially when moving up in weight. If he fought someone like Brook and lost, or looked bad enough that the fight with Floyd was pulled he would have been an idiot for taking that fight. Like for example, when JM Marquez went and lost to Chris John in Indonesia. Stupid fucking fight that had he had a decent promoter looking out for his interests wouldn't have happened.
Guys like Brook need to get world titles and prove themselves and then get a fight. You don't fight what appear to be the best guys when they are merely potential. You get no credit for the victory, you don't get the money, or the legacy boost, you only get derailed if you lose.
Khan needs to focus on his goal. Floyd Mayweather. Get past Peterson, then have a tune up at 147, then the big one. That's the best plan.
But wouldn't it make more sense for Khan to fight him in a year or so, when Brooks will probably be a world champion himself?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Imo brook would give berto all he could handle and would probably winQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Styles make fights and all that too and i think berto would be more suited to khan that brook
I really like Brook too, but I'd rather he made a step up to world class before getting thrown in with a Khan or Berto. Why the rush?Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44Imo brook would give berto all he could handle and would probably winQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Styles make fights and all that too and i think berto would be more suited to khan that brook
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Originally Posted by BilboI really like Brook too, but I'd rather he made a step up to world class before getting thrown in with a Khan or Berto. Why the rush?Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44Imo brook would give berto all he could handle and would probably winQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Styles make fights and all that too and i think berto would be more suited to khan that brook
yeah i agree
i wasnt saying he needs to go for a world champ next fight, i was just replying to Master's comment suggesting Brook would be an easier fight than Berto for khan
and i think Brook is just calling out khan to raise his profile rather than realistically expecting to secure the fight
having said all that, if he was offered either fight im sure he would snap their arms off
Brooks is young undefeated and wants a big name scalp, with an alleged weak chin, to make a name for himself. Khan fights a legitimate, dangerous and domestic fighter to see if he is ready for Floyd.
My i just say haveing seen both fighter live, i go for Brook because ? he is a Ingel fighter and a good one to boot.and he will be very hard to beat.And i feel he will be way to much for Khan it's just what i think.;D:sheep:
Why does Amir need to show he is ready for Floyd? Floyd has already agreed to fight him, providing he doesn't fuck up beforehand and get beat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Really?Quote:
Originally Posted by BilboWhy does Amir need to show he is ready for Floyd? Floyd has already agreed to fight him, providing he doesn't fuck up beforehand and get beat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Yes give Khan his shot at Floyd,but i think Brook is going to make it big i could be wrong just like the way he fight's. Khan V M Hatton cant see the point only one winner Khan.;D:sheep:
For Khan's confidence to know that he can beat with a live welterweight.Quote:
Originally Posted by BilboWhy does Amir need to show he is ready for Floyd? Floyd has already agreed to fight him, providing he doesn't fuck up beforehand and get beat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Amir announced it himself on October 4th. They have had discussions and Floyd verbally agreed apparently.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHReally?Quote:
Originally Posted by BilboWhy does Amir need to show he is ready for Floyd? Floyd has already agreed to fight him, providing he doesn't fuck up beforehand and get beat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Anyway,whether or not that comes to anything the point still stands. Khan doesnt need to 'prove' himself worthy of a fight with Floyd, all that needs to happen is for Floyd to want to fight him. Which he evidently does, as Pacquiao aside Khan must be the biggest draw out there for him. Plus beating Manny's sparring partner will set up the megafight we all want to see most hopefully by the end of 2012.
I'd normally agree but i don't think Mayweather is a big welterweight really. And he's such a unique fighter that it wouldn't really matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterFor Khan's confidence to know that he can beat with a live welterweight.Quote:
Originally Posted by BilboWhy does Amir need to show he is ready for Floyd? Floyd has already agreed to fight him, providing he doesn't fuck up beforehand and get beat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Floyd has grown into the welterweight division before he had to run from the Baldimors but now he can stand toe to toe with Shane (after getting hurt) and Ortiz, so I think Khan would do well to properly acclimatise at the weight. For his confidence it would be better to beat Brooks than Hatton.Quote:
Originally Posted by onoI'd normally agree but i don't think Mayweather is a big welterweight really. And he's such a unique fighter that it wouldn't really matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterFor Khan's confidence to know that he can beat with a live welterweight.Quote:
Originally Posted by BilboWhy does Amir need to show he is ready for Floyd? Floyd has already agreed to fight him, providing he doesn't fuck up beforehand and get beat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master