Re: Everybody PLEASE MUST watch this video!!!!!!!!!!! !!
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Andre
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Scrap
Brockton , its Frightening ;D
yes man, say it like it IS, rather than what people do these days, like what Dawson said at the Pascal presser : "Sit down with our tight pants". Or a poster a few posts up on this thread: "We cannot hear a word the marine is saying, because he is grandstanding with a uniform on." Yeah, now we know why those types couldnt make it through a rigorous academic environment. I'll tell ya, since graduating from university in 1990, and being out among the everyday people I'll call them, you really get to see how unsophisticated and unsound the majority of their statements and/or rebuttals are.
It IS FRIGHTENING, Scrap ;D
You can say my name Brock, speak up, just spell it right fella. Yes. It is grandstanding and he drowns out his own message a bit, yelling it the loudest and thumping your chest pointing at your ribbons makes it as much about him as it does his valid point. Question a mans honor on mass while obviously having been in very similar situations himself...for 14months as far as crowd control with civilians. No the situation in Iraq and downtown NY are absolutely nothing alike, one is an active war zone and well, one is downtown NY, take that for what its worth but I'd be willing to bet he's knocked a head or two in a direction he was told to march that he wishes he could take back. You get one person standing on a soap box stirring a crowd and it kicks off in a minute...the difference being yes this is the U.S and he had his say and 15 minutes where as in Iraq he very well might be hooded and zip tied. Cops get out of hand and this country as well as others has chapters of history littered with steel boots suppressing and in some cases permanently silencing people in the street. Its a travesty that should be highlighted and not tolerated. Likewise though not all cops and certainly not all soldiers are head crackers and body stacker's. A good portion of those cops he rails against put on a uniform just as he did and similarly may very well have been in Iraq.
I didnt see the cops do anything wrong in that video at all, but agreed that where you use armed force is when the enemy is armed not on streets in between shoppers.
Agreed. If however those shoppers are from Abercrombie and fitch, all bets are off...
Re: Everybody PLEASE MUST watch this video!!!!!!!!!!! !!
The point is not is the marine grandstanding. The point is not should he use his medals to make his argument. etc etc... forever missing the point is key to unresolved issues.
The ACTUAL POINT is not about the messenger, hard as it is for some to fathom. Basically, in the US over the past say 10 years, Posse Comitatus and other guarantees of protection like Habeus Corpus have either been seriously undermined or outright suspended, unconstitutionally so. Clear evidence of that is all around but sheeple dont want to notice, or they poo-poo it and say its hot air. Yeah, when you are hauled off to FEMA camps that they told you were for "natural disasters", then and only then will you understand.