"El Perro" Angulo vs. James Kirkland - Saturday "Fight Thread"

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Originally Posted by p4pking

I watched Kirkland against the Japanese guy tonight and then against Julio, it was weird. Not that I rated him highly to begin with, but Julio did land some big shots on him and he took them alright and kept coming. He went on to display the punch resistance of a 12 year old girl in his first fight out of prison, I'd forgotten how feeble he looked. I wonder if something happened to him in jail:-X Hard to give him even a prayer against Angulo unless he had major problems with weight drain or something. I don't buy that not training the way he used to could possibly sap his chin like that.

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Not sure how much taking it in the ass has an effect on your chin, but the stint definitely didn't do him any good

This fight starts @ 10:15 PM EST Saturday night on HBO B.A.D., the more I think about it, the Ishida KO be damned, this should be a hell of a fight coming from Cancun, Mexico.

November 5
At Cancun, Mexico (HBO): Alfredo Angulo vs. James Kirkland, 12 rounds, junior middleweights; Peter "Kid Chocolate" Quillin vs. Craig McEwan, 10 rounds, middleweights.

I dont think Kirkland has a very good chin, with this in mind he need's to box not brawl with Angulo and I think this is a 50 50 fight.
And one fight I want to see may be a bit of a war.;D

I picked Kirkland by second round TKO in the prediction contest. Its a bit of a longshot, and Angulo most likely gets to him at some point. A well thought out pick obviously.

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Originally Posted by p4pking

I don't think Kirkland will see it any differently, and he does have a shot of taking Angulo out early imo although I doubt it'll happen, this will basically be a street fight. I know Cintron has real power and managed to hold it together and outbox Angulo, but that fight made me wonder how much confidence Angulo really has in his own ability to take punishment. He never quite threw caution to the wind and went after Cintron once he fell behind, as one might have expected him to given his supposed toughness and Cintrons lack of. Of course Kirkland can't really take anything else from that fight as he can't box for shit, but it's something.

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Totally agree with this, thought the same thing when I was watching.

Kirkland was buzzed pretty bad by Allen Conyers in the first round of their fight. I think he stopped him that round. Not that that matters a whole lot here as Conyers isn't Angulo, but he seems to have first round issues (or maybe he just has chin issues). I didn't see the fight he got knocked out in. Maybe I should have watched that before I made my pick. :-\

I don't think he comes out to box though. I'm not sure he can really, and I don't think he wants to. Hopefully he just comes out bombing and we see how long it lasts.

I am still picking Angulo by demolition...think taking a hammer to wet cardboard like demolition.
But one thing sticking out to me is while Kirkland has been shaken badly it was mostly from what I recall guys equally concerned about moving away at the time as they were getting a punch in..."fast" punches that buzz and short circuit. A few things about Angulo are certain...he is not a fast like puncher or mover...he 'rolllls' punches in and mixes body head. He WILL be there for return should Kirkland hold up off initial thumps. I could actually see Kirkland playing the step out boxer and look to have Angulo run into some leather rather than predictable face first attack. I certainly don't see Kirkland having stamina or keeping fluid legs as he's built like a brick shit house but my only pause is Angulo knows no backfoot, he knows improved combinations and isn't shy at getting tagged. This should be a shoot out while it last, don't blink.

Two things I know . This fight has no chance to see the third round and kirkland has no chance of winning

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Originally Posted by Mar

Two things I know . This fight has no chance to see the third round and kirkland has no chance of winning

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I'm not so sure about that, you might be underestimating Kirkland a bit there Mar, he's no slouch, even if he did get stopped by Ishida, I wouldn't even be surprised if Kirkland won.

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Originally Posted by OumaFan

Kirkland was buzzed pretty bad by Allen Conyers in the first round of their fight. I think he stopped him that round. Not that that matters a whole lot here as Conyers isn't Angulo, but he seems to have first round issues (or maybe he just has chin issues). I didn't see the fight he got knocked out in. Maybe I should have watched that before I made my pick. :-\

I don't think he comes out to box though. I'm not sure he can really, and I don't think he wants to. Hopefully he just comes out bombing and we see how long it lasts.

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there is boxing writers who have stated that they were told that Kirkland had chin issues before he ever got dropped in a fight. I'm assuming they had heard about some issues seen in sparring. Couple that with what we have seen in the ring and he doesn't have a good chin.

I fucking love it when Roy Jones is doing commentary.

With that hair he looked like Tito for a minute. Buffer having muffled mic problems

Up first, Peter "Kid Chocolate" Quillin vs. Craig McEwan, 10 rounds, middleweights.

Lampley, Max and RJJ calling the action tonight for HBO.

Kid Chocolate? wasn't there another old time fighter with this handle?

Corona gal # 1 is highly lickable...just sayin :-X

McEwan the Scotsman..

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

Corona gal # 1 is highly lickable...just sayin :-X

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You're just horny Spicoli..