He has no trouble filling the stadiums in Germany
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He has no trouble filling the stadiums in Germany
So does David Hasselhoff probably. Still dull. The German sensibility is a unique one. I am surprised that they haven't convinced Wlad to get a mullet and ride in on a white horse.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Lyle, what I keep going back to with Wlad, and I realize we've discussed this before, but is his lack of inside game. Your response was in part (correct me if I misquote you) that it's irrelevant because Wlad never has to work on the inside because he's so good with range and because of his long reach. That's true against the bum of the month club like Mormeck. Yet, even Mormeck got inside in the first round a few times, but he just didn't know what to do once there. With a one of the great heavyweights of the past, a fighter that knew how to get on the inside and what to do when there, and a referee that took points away for excessive clinching, I believe Wlad would struggle. Now, Clearly, Wlad is a great fighter and could compete in many eras, but I question whether some of the other great heavyweights of yesteryear wouldn't be able to get inside and tear Wlad up. That's the only reason why I am not sure I agree with you on how high Wlad should be on the all-time great list.
Mike Tyson said pretty much the same thing to the Wall Street Journal about his strategy. Here is what he had to say: "You have to fight Klitschko like Joe Frazier or Henry Armstrong. Come in behind the jab. Move your head all the time. Get inside and stay there. And when he misses, make him pay with devestating counter punches." "It would be very physical."
I voted Povetkin, though we know Povetkin won't agree to lose his belt and his ridiculous "0." That's why I voted for him -- it's an absurdity that he can be most people's #3 guy in the division, hold a paper "major world" title and an undefeated record, and yet be so clearly several levels below fighters in the same division. Not because it would be any more competitive than the other crappy possibilities -- it wouldn't be.
Really, all of these fights suck. Arreola probably is the most entertaining, I suppose, for the 6-ish rounds it lasts.
I voted Arreola just because I think he will try to win and actually fight.
Well the way I see it is the manner in which Wladimir clinches, he's looking for the ref to break them and create space, well if an opponent initiated the clinch, then broke it and hit off the break (something which is KIND OF illegal but what I call a "bendable rule") THAT is how you get Wlad in trouble because he will be looking to tie up, if you push off his defense will be out of position and you can connect with 2-3 free shots, maybe 1 of which will have true power. You'll have to keep from smothering your attack AND make sure you don't wipe out your stamina doing this because as Tyson said "It would be very physical".Quote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
Face facts, it's just hard to beat them even without their inside fighting...in fact I will venture to say Wlad's athletic ability, physical size, and UNWILLINGNESS to fight on the inside has made him damn near unbeatable to the other fighters in the division. Fighting on the inside is counter intuitive to the basic boxing rules of using your height and reach...he's very smart to keep the fight at range.
Thompson gave a survival performance last time, just because he managed to survive that long does not mean he should deserve to fight next. I would much prefer to see another young fresh heavyweight challenger.
Can we have a "COULDN'T CARE LESS" option?
It's got to the point where I no longer care which obese, ill prepared, scared or useless heavyweight Wladimir (or Vitali for that matter) fights next?
The top 10 HWs should all have their licences revoked & the Klitschkos should be awarded the HW titles in perpetuity.:D
Is it wrong that I would want Holyfield?
The result would be inevitable, but I think he would ask a few questions.
Where is holyfield these days, I havent heard much about him for a long time now, it must be about a year since he last fought too, has he finally retired?
This bum tour will never end, will it..
Tony Thompson is a fucking bum.. Wlad's punk ass is lucky that Amir Mansour is locked up..
Hahahaha...Mansour would get smashed by Wladimir.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
Finito, you know I see eye to eye with you on many an opinion, but I don't believe Tony Thompson is that much of a bum. Consider the rest of the top ten in the division. How many of them would you pick over Thompson?Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
..And just who the fuck has Mansour ever looked all that great against? I would bet you right now that Thompson would school Amir if they ever fought. Look at the guy's record, look at his size, his age....if he was going to be a champion he would have at the very least already fought for A title. He's 39 years old....39!!! He's 5'11 around 220, and 6...6 of the guys he has fought have winning records. When Dominick Guinn is the biggest name on your resume I'm sorry you just can't talk shit about the Klitschko's!Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratFinito, you know I see eye to eye with you on many an opinion, but I don't believe Tony Thompson is that much of a bum. Consider the rest of the top ten in the division. How many of them would you pick over Thompson?Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
If it weren't for his problems with the law, you never know...Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong..And just who the fuck has Mansour ever looked all that great against? I would bet you right now that Thompson would school Amir if they ever fought. Look at the guy's record, look at his size, his age....if he was going to be a champion he would have at the very least already fought for A title. He's 39 years old....39!!! He's 5'11 around 220, and 6...6 of the guys he has fought have winning records. When Dominick Guinn is the biggest name on your resume I'm sorry you just can't talk shit about the Klitschko's!Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratFinito, you know I see eye to eye with you on many an opinion, but I don't believe Tony Thompson is that much of a bum. Consider the rest of the top ten in the division. How many of them would you pick over Thompson?Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
Thompson isn't a bad choice given the other options, but Thompson has NO chance against Wlad. Arreola has a better chance. Boystov (I'm sort of excited for the Boystov v. Dimitrenko fight) or Pulev have better chances. i would rather see Thompson face someone else before getting another Wlad fight come to think of it. He was set to face Chambers and that would have been interesting.