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This is just a thread diversion anyway. I was given some crap about why Lydon and Morrissey are poor and then criticized for my defense and yet all I see from the two attackers is 'Dad' and nobody else as someone to look up to.
I offered names and all anyone else does is say that you are wrong and call you out for a view that Steve Jobs was just a bit shitty. Jobs changed lives, but he also enslaved lives.
My people to look up to have never done that.
Im not comparing anyone to anyone, Im just saying you cant have it both ways.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
This thread was for people to say who they look up to. Very few have done so.Quote:
Originally Posted by MemphisThose threads werent written for you, they we written by people who's opinion differs from yours.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfWell, Steve Jobs was not such a great man when you add it all up. Do I look up to him? No. He was a businessman and didn't respect human rights. He also said nothing to me as a human being. If you cannot say anything to me then you don't matter and Jobs didn't matter. I would imagine many learned to make fire, but did it change their mental landscape? That is where language and art beats plastic technology. Morrissey changed more minds than Steve Jobs ever did.Quote:
Originally Posted by MemphisSo long as you have aknowledged your hypocrisy ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfSure, about people who employ slave labour who also don't receive health benefits when they are dying of cancer.Quote:
Originally Posted by MemphisYou do it all the time in threads people have created to aknowledge someones passing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
Nobody is dying here.
Morrissey might criticize the Chinese, but he never actually enslaved them.
You cant have it both ways my man ;)
Other threads have been made by people who support terrible things. Nobody I like supports terrible things. Maybe they committed terrible acts, but didn't enslave thousands of people.
You can criticize people who are dictating mass evil. To compare John Lydon to Steve Jobs is bizarre. One is one who speaks what he feels and hurts very few, the other has enslaved many.
That sentence I used can be used against me, but in this context I am showing what I mean.
I can though. My mind is ever evolving and I am not the same constantly. Words used today will not be the same as 3 months ago. I am not the same person. And likewise, 5 months later. It will be me, but not me.Quote:
Originally Posted by MemphisIm not comparing anyone to anyone, Im just saying you cant have it both ways.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfThis thread was for people to say who they look up to. Very few have done so.Quote:
Originally Posted by MemphisThose threads werent written for you, they we written by people who's opinion differs from yours.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfWell, Steve Jobs was not such a great man when you add it all up. Do I look up to him? No. He was a businessman and didn't respect human rights. He also said nothing to me as a human being. If you cannot say anything to me then you don't matter and Jobs didn't matter. I would imagine many learned to make fire, but did it change their mental landscape? That is where language and art beats plastic technology. Morrissey changed more minds than Steve Jobs ever did.Quote:
Originally Posted by MemphisSo long as you have aknowledged your hypocrisy ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfSure, about people who employ slave labour who also don't receive health benefits when they are dying of cancer.Quote:
Originally Posted by MemphisYou do it all the time in threads people have created to aknowledge someones passing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
Nobody is dying here.
Morrissey might criticize the Chinese, but he never actually enslaved them.
You cant have it both ways my man ;)
Other threads have been made by people who support terrible things. Nobody I like supports terrible things. Maybe they committed terrible acts, but didn't enslave thousands of people.
You can criticize people who are dictating mass evil. To compare John Lydon to Steve Jobs is bizarre. One is one who speaks what he feels and hurts very few, the other has enslaved many.
That sentence I used can be used against me, but in this context I am showing what I mean.
I think you're giving yourself a bit too much credit there mate. You only changed your screen name ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfI can though. My mind is ever evolving and I am not the same constantly. Words used today will not be the same as 3 months ago. I am not the same person. And likewise, 5 months later. It will be me, but not me.Quote:
Originally Posted by MemphisIm not comparing anyone to anyone, Im just saying you cant have it both ways.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfThis thread was for people to say who they look up to. Very few have done so.Quote:
Originally Posted by MemphisThose threads werent written for you, they we written by people who's opinion differs from yours.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfWell, Steve Jobs was not such a great man when you add it all up. Do I look up to him? No. He was a businessman and didn't respect human rights. He also said nothing to me as a human being. If you cannot say anything to me then you don't matter and Jobs didn't matter. I would imagine many learned to make fire, but did it change their mental landscape? That is where language and art beats plastic technology. Morrissey changed more minds than Steve Jobs ever did.Quote:
Originally Posted by MemphisSo long as you have aknowledged your hypocrisy ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfSure, about people who employ slave labour who also don't receive health benefits when they are dying of cancer.Quote:
Originally Posted by MemphisYou do it all the time in threads people have created to aknowledge someones passing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
Nobody is dying here.
Morrissey might criticize the Chinese, but he never actually enslaved them.
You cant have it both ways my man ;)
Other threads have been made by people who support terrible things. Nobody I like supports terrible things. Maybe they committed terrible acts, but didn't enslave thousands of people.
You can criticize people who are dictating mass evil. To compare John Lydon to Steve Jobs is bizarre. One is one who speaks what he feels and hurts very few, the other has enslaved many.
That sentence I used can be used against me, but in this context I am showing what I mean.
Perhaps. I look up to those people, I don't like Jobs.Quote:
Originally Posted by MemphisI think you're giving yourself a bit too much credit there mate. You only changed your screen name ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfI can though. My mind is ever evolving and I am not the same constantly. Words used today will not be the same as 3 months ago. I am not the same person. And likewise, 5 months later. It will be me, but not me.Quote:
Originally Posted by MemphisIm not comparing anyone to anyone, Im just saying you cant have it both ways.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfThis thread was for people to say who they look up to. Very few have done so.Quote:
Originally Posted by MemphisThose threads werent written for you, they we written by people who's opinion differs from yours.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfWell, Steve Jobs was not such a great man when you add it all up. Do I look up to him? No. He was a businessman and didn't respect human rights. He also said nothing to me as a human being. If you cannot say anything to me then you don't matter and Jobs didn't matter. I would imagine many learned to make fire, but did it change their mental landscape? That is where language and art beats plastic technology. Morrissey changed more minds than Steve Jobs ever did.Quote:
Originally Posted by MemphisSo long as you have aknowledged your hypocrisy ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfSure, about people who employ slave labour who also don't receive health benefits when they are dying of cancer.Quote:
Originally Posted by MemphisYou do it all the time in threads people have created to aknowledge someones passing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
Nobody is dying here.
Morrissey might criticize the Chinese, but he never actually enslaved them.
You cant have it both ways my man ;)
Other threads have been made by people who support terrible things. Nobody I like supports terrible things. Maybe they committed terrible acts, but didn't enslave thousands of people.
You can criticize people who are dictating mass evil. To compare John Lydon to Steve Jobs is bizarre. One is one who speaks what he feels and hurts very few, the other has enslaved many.
That sentence I used can be used against me, but in this context I am showing what I mean.
Others, post your own lists. You reticent cunts.
My old man has been a great role model as a husband, father, professional and just genuine person. Work wise my first platoon sergeant was a great leader and Soldier. Politically Ron Paul is someone I admire not just b/c we share common beliefs but that he has a set of principles and sticks to them. Outside of them I can't think of anyone that when faced with a decision I reflect on how they would deal with it although I'm sure there are more.
Miles I can see your point of view, and I would not blame you for not wanting to be a parent but don't miss out for the sin's of your father my friend.I have two children a Son and Daughter and a Granddaughter it make's my life complete.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
People to look up to well no one really bar my Father, I feel I don't need to look up to anyone rich or famous, when our time is up remember we come into this World the same and go out the same.
Of course people should have respect, for there achievements, but to look up to very few I can think of.;D
why does everyone hate on morrissey anyway? people always say he's so depressing.
i just don't see it. he wrote songs full of wit and keen observation full of feeling.
he's not depressing at all.
Half wit fuck in waste of space, what he need's is a good steak veggie prick.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
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Originally Posted by Dia bandoHalf wit fuck in waste of space, what he need's is a good steak veggie prick.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
i'm sure you're a real catch.
Steak anyone.;DQuote:
Originally Posted by ruthless roccoQuote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoHalf wit fuck in waste of space, what he need's is a good steak veggie prick.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
i'm sure you're a real catch.
Miles you're getting your g-string in a bunch because people are looking up to their Dad now? ;D
Like a Dad ever changed a life, ridiculous.
Well seeing as I never really knew my Dad, I nominate Will Smith.
Any one over 6'6" ;)
Milton Friedman...forgot him