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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
No bigger Froch fan here than me. But Im not some blind, naive groupie who thinks Froch can be competitive against Ward (much less beat him) knowing damn well it's not possibleQuote:
Originally Posted by Dropanuke
It just wouldn't happen. It's just different levels.
It's pretty unlikely, but not impossible.
Ward has been dropped and hurt as recently as Bika... He spoils too well for Froch to likely land clean... But it can be done, whatever he lacks - froch has a fuck load of will so you can never write him off entirely.
VD which fighter did you say Froch was going to get KO'd by or only beat via a shameful, home town decision? Was it Bute or Abraham?
I only ask because that seems like something so stupid only a hater could delude themselves enough to say... But here you are claiming to be a fan. ???
I'm sure it was both. Still a big time fan of him.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
Bika never dropped Ward. Only time Ward has been down was in his 7th pro fight. But it's alright. I'm sure it can still be held against him. I mean it was only 7 years ago. That's like yesterday
Can't wait! Will be a great rematch!
Why dont we stop the if's,buts and maybe's , let the fight happen and let the fighters do the talking in the ring.
If you dislike either Froch or Ward it doesnt really matter , let see the rematch.
There is no reason they shouldn't fight again assuming Ward is going to stay at the weight, he has nobody else to fight anyways.
Having said that, I think there is a lot more room for Ward to improve than Froch and it would only be a more decisive win this time around. Neither guy has ever rematched anyone if I'm not mistaken though so it'll be interesting to see in that sense. Being so much better technically and tactically all Ward needs to worry about is being in top shape and making some small adjustments. I don't think there's much Froch can do to change the outcome, and he isn't a lethal one punch guy or anything. Maybe he could hire Ross the amateur judge to train him and work out the game plan.
If froch performed like against pascal then he would win it!
His work rate was crazy high
??? I never said Bika dropped ward... I said he'd been dropped before and that bika had hurt him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseI'm sure it was both. Still a big time fan of him.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
Bika never dropped Ward. Only time Ward has been down was in his 7th pro fight. But it's alright. I'm sure it can still be held against him. I mean it was only 7 years ago. That's like yesterday
It's the way it was worded. Could have been read as Bika dropping and hurting him. Rather than your intention of him being dropped before, and hurt as recently as Bika.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB??? I never said Bika dropped ward... I said he'd been dropped before and that bika had hurt him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseI'm sure it was both. Still a big time fan of him.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
Bika never dropped Ward. Only time Ward has been down was in his 7th pro fight. But it's alright. I'm sure it can still be held against him. I mean it was only 7 years ago. That's like yesterday
I forgot how clearly VD needs things explained to him.
Its somewhat a mut point as most fighters have been dropped and hurt. Mayweather was hurt and almost dropped but that doesnt mean much.Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanmanIt's the way it was worded. Could have been read as Bika dropping and hurting him. Rather than your intention of him being dropped before, and hurt as recently as Bika.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB??? I never said Bika dropped ward... I said he'd been dropped before and that bika had hurt him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseI'm sure it was both. Still a big time fan of him.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
Bika never dropped Ward. Only time Ward has been down was in his 7th pro fight. But it's alright. I'm sure it can still be held against him. I mean it was only 7 years ago. That's like yesterday
That's nonsense.. He performed well against Pascal because he could afford to throw that many punches in between Pascals spurts, and it was still a very close fight where Froch took a lot of big shots. Carl had only improved since then by the time he fought Ward. Pascal has virtually no ring generalship, there is nothing to take from that fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dropanuke
'Moot'Quote:
Originally Posted by ninjaspy3Its somewhat a mut point as most fighters have been dropped and hurt. Mayweather was hurt and almost dropped but that doesnt mean much.Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanmanIt's the way it was worded. Could have been read as Bika dropping and hurting him. Rather than your intention of him being dropped before, and hurt as recently as Bika.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB??? I never said Bika dropped ward... I said he'd been dropped before and that bika had hurt him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseI'm sure it was both. Still a big time fan of him.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
Bika never dropped Ward. Only time Ward has been down was in his 7th pro fight. But it's alright. I'm sure it can still be held against him. I mean it was only 7 years ago. That's like yesterday
And no... It's not. Like Floyd, Ward isn't indestructable. Whether against Bika or 7 years ago, if you canfind him you can hurt him... Like Floyd the problem lies in finding the blueprint to nulify his style.
Again - very unlikely, not impossible.
In other words if frochs high work rate in the pascal fight which I'd say was equal to calzaghes against jones it basically means that Calzaghe would get whooped too by ward.