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Everyone seems to be comparing to the Knockoutable Wlad of old. Manny Stewart changed his defence and basically his entire style when it comes to movement.
Wlad now very rarely get hit at all, and it has been years since he was last badly troubled.
I agree Mike Tyson on '88 would have beaten Wlad, but that wouldnt be because of wlads "Glass Chin".
That would simple be because NOBODY could have stopped Tyson in '88.
Prime tyson beats any wlad.
Prime tyson beats any vitali.
Try to ignore hindsight in any of our answers and just jump back in time and put the klit brothers in the ring with a prime tyson.
Vitali is stronger and would have had the better chance but the brothers dont handle speed to well and mike tyson is one the most fastest and peek a boo explosive heavyweight fighters of all time.
I agree with the comment mentioned about Wlad being another weaker version of lennox lewis but with a weaker chin and far more defensive.
Wlad is a far better fighter guy now and comes across very well as a champion but its very obvious the answer to this one.
A prime 1988 Tyson would scare the shit out of Wlad,he would freeze , and Tyson would be all over him like a bad suit.Tyson ko rd 2.
:rolleyes: you Tyson nuthuggers
Oh the magic of Cus and Rooney :vd: ...that's why Rooney has had so many great fighters since Tyson right?
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Ok buddy who the fuck are you and what did you do with Lyle?
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Ok buddy who the fuck are you and what did you do with Lyle?
So which is it?
Wlad beats Tyson with his left hand tied behind his back?
Or Tyson "around 2-5"?
You sure are confusing with your flip-flopping.
It's a hypothetical situation dumb ass Tyson could win or not I gave my account of what's likely to happen. But go right ahead and be a twat about itQuote:
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Ok buddy who the fuck are you and what did you do with Lyle?
So which is it?
Wlad beats Tyson with his left hand tied behind his back?
Or Tyson "around 2-5"?
You sure are confusing with your flip-flopping.
I just dont go for the TYSON in 88 was unstoppable , yes he ripped through the HW's but he was beatable , he just fought poor fighters , when Tyson faced better fighters who fought back he lost via KO , he was not unbeatable.
Lets also not forget Tyson was a very small HW , he never faced anyone who was the size of Vitali , Smith was 16 stone 4 , i loved watching Tyson in his prime but he was over rated.
....finally someone with some logic enters the thread. Let's not forget that D'Mato and Rooney pressure fighters burned out early regardless of their greatness
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We're talking one fight... prime, Sherlock. Burning out is besides the point. Point is who wins prime for prime. Unlike you, I can separate Vitali from Wlad. I think prime Tyson scares the shit out of Wlad, and proceeds to dismantle him. Wlad is safety first. Tyson is "to hell with caution I'm gonna rip your head off your shoulders". Tyson could also take a punch. I've always said Tyson vs Vitali would be a lot more competitive. Two big differences: Vitali wouldn't walk in scared... and Vitali could take a good punch.
Even Tyson post prison (3years!!) was still a threat. And why are we talking about rooney and cus and what other champions they didnt have, tyson mafe up for everyone else.Quote:
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Just remember a mike tyson at 15 years old was something out of this world that was sparring with grown men sparring partners.
Youngest heavyweight champion in the world with tremendous speed and power for a small man.
There is nothing overated about tyson.
Who cares if everyone was scared of tyson.
Thats there problem not his.
This was a young, short heavyweight entering there world and he dominated..shame cus wasnt around to see it. Rip
Tyson nuthugger? I couldn't stand the guy. Every time he fought I wanted him to lose but that's not relevant in this hypothetical match up. When he fought Douglas he had already started on his downward slide but that does not take away what Douglas did. He fought the perfect fight and provided somewhat of a blue print for those who followed. I'm not sure anyone in history would have beaten Buster on that night.Quote:
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Like I said, I think the Wlad that learned how to clinch and lean on smaller opponents might give Tyson some issues but he most likely gets decapitated by a prime Tyson and the Wlad featured in the gifs present in this thread would have been murdered by Tyson.
Where haven't I separated Wlad and Vitali? You want to make up more stuff I don't do? And even if we agree you're still bitching like the moaning little cunt you are.Quote:
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We're talking one fight... prime, Sherlock. Burning out is besides the point. Point is who wins prime for prime. Unlike you, I can separate Vitali from Wlad. I think prime Tyson scares the shit out of Wlad, and proceeds to dismantle him. Wlad is safety first. Tyson is "to hell with caution I'm gonna rip your head off your shoulders". Tyson could also take a punch. I've always said Tyson vs Vitali would be a lot more competitive. Two big differences: Vitali wouldn't walk in scared... and Vitali could take a good punch.