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Originally Posted by TysonBomb
Well hop in the DeLorean and let's make it happen! :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by TysonBomb
Well hop in the DeLorean and let's make it happen! :rolleyes:
El kabong, 37000 posts is that the highest on here?
Well done anyway.
Wlads still crap.
I'd rather have Vitali as the major champ than Wlad
At least Vitali is a natural fighter and gave a hell of a fight against Lennox Lewis ... Wladimir is just a robot programmed by Emmanuel Steward to throw a total of 3 punches and clinch like a madman any time someone moves within striking range of his chin.
He literally fights scared. I think even Pac could KO the guy if he landed cleanly on his jaw. And the past few years have been really crappy ... at least back in 2004 until 2008 there was a chance that he'd be taken out of his comfort zone and be forced to take some risks ... even have his jaw smashed again in an entertaining fashion :D
He's gotten even more boring since working with Steward and super boring ever since he's been left with these bums or has beens who can't even reach his chin.
Fine Tyson fans have it your way....though it's odd that someone who was "unbeatable" got the everliving shit hammered out of him by Buster Douglas and lost TWICE to a former cruiserweight, one time in the most chicken shit way possible.
We all know that the Buster Douglas fight was the biggest upset in boxing history and we all know he could never duplicate that feat from that night in Tokyo. And Tyson STILL put him down with an uppercut in the 8th, almost unraveling all of Douglas' work. Douglas caught lightning in a bottle that night ... he was motivated and focused like never before and trained like it was the fight of his life. Mike foolishly thought he took an easy fight in Douglas and was in vacation mode in Japan. He went on a crash diet of nothing but soup and was visibly lethargic from the start of the fight. Tyson's corner was the only thing more unprepared than him that night.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Not to mention the personal problems he had outside of the ring during that time.
It sounds like something serial paedophile Jimmy Saville would say.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Buster had Tyson's number that nite....inspired by his mums death and Tyson didn't prepare he was in party mode and lost it...that day was a great day for Buster and he took it and became a multi millionaire over nite...the Under dog did well
job biscuit (great day but bad also)!!!
eh eh!!
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Originally Posted by TysonBombWe all know that the Buster Douglas fight was the biggest upset in boxing history and we all know he could never duplicate that feat from that night in Tokyo. And Tyson STILL put him down with an uppercut in the 8th, almost unraveling all of Douglas' work. Douglas caught lightning in a bottle that night ... he was motivated and focused like never before and trained like it was the fight of his life. Mike foolishly thought he took an easy fight in Douglas and was in vacation mode in Japan. He went on a crash diet of nothing but soup and was visibly lethargic from the start of the fight. Tyson's corner was the only thing more unprepared than him that night.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Not to mention the personal problems he had outside of the ring during that time.
The Tyson-Douglas match was a fight! Two guys hitting each other... doing the boxing and the punching... trying to win the fight... throwing caution to the wind at times... riveting people to their TV sets or the live action... each guy dropping the other... EXCITING SHIT!
(sigh)... I miss those days.
:(
They say you have to actually fight Tyson to win and not show fear, Wlad would do the complete opposite and cower away via back peddling or grab on for dear life.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by TysonBombWe all know that the Buster Douglas fight was the biggest upset in boxing history and we all know he could never duplicate that feat from that night in Tokyo. And Tyson STILL put him down with an uppercut in the 8th, almost unraveling all of Douglas' work. Douglas caught lightning in a bottle that night ... he was motivated and focused like never before and trained like it was the fight of his life. Mike foolishly thought he took an easy fight in Douglas and was in vacation mode in Japan. He went on a crash diet of nothing but soup and was visibly lethargic from the start of the fight. Tyson's corner was the only thing more unprepared than him that night.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Not to mention the personal problems he had outside of the ring during that time.
The Tyson-Douglas match was a fight! Two guys hitting each other... doing the boxing and the punching... trying to win the fight... throwing caution to the wind at times... riveting people to their TV sets or the live action... each guy dropping the other... EXCITING SHIT!
(sigh)... I miss those days.
:(
Just look at the injuries he caused to Razor Ruddock and Andrew Golota. Ruddock had his jaw wired shut due to a fracture and his ribs were broken. Andrew Golota had a broken cheek bone, a herniated disc, and a concussion ... there was risk of paralysis due to the extent of his injuries.
Buster Douglas fought the best fight of his life and that was it for him ... he didn't want the rematch because he knew that a focused Tyson would be able to beat him ... it would take away from the mystique and awe of that night where he defeated Iron Mike Tyson.
The Tyson-Ruddock fights trump anything that both brothers have done ... just LISTEN to the massive shots they throw at each other
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUAG1bjht40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcVJVvDTJeo
You think Wlad would EVER be able to sustain punishment like that? What if one of Razor Ruddock's "smashes" landed on his jaw or a Tyson combo to his body?
His life would be in danger. These two would put him in intensive care.
These two fights are the two most underrated heavyweight fights ever ... rarely will you ever see the kind of punishment exchanged between two heavyweights like that.
Boxing died when its true king and maestro Iron Mike Tyson retired. Hell, even Tyson vs. McBride was better than anything Wlad put on!
Tyson vs Ruddock aftermath
Tyson Breaks Foe`s Jaw, Not Title Snag - Chicago TribuneQuote:
LAS VEGAS — Donovan ``Razor`` Ruddock had nothing to say Saturday morning about his latest loss to Mike Tyson. That`s because he has a broken jaw that will remain wired shut for six weeks.
Ruddock sustained not only his second straight loss to Tyson, but a physical beating normally reserved for an alley.
The unanimous 12-round decision would seem to finally set up a Tyson title match with champion Evander Holyfield, but that possibility is as bogged down as ever in a contract hassle and heavyweight politics.
By the time Ruddock heard that judges Dalby Shirley and Art Lurie (both 114-108) and Chuck Giampa (113-109) had scored Friday night`s foul-marred bout against him, his lower lip was leaking blood and his left cheek was severely swollen. And if referee Mills Lane hadn`t deducted three points from Tyson for low blows (to one for Ruddock), the scorecards would have been as lopsided as Ruddock`s face.
``Donovan `Razor` Ruddock is not a sore loser,`` said Ruddock`s promoter, Murad Muhammad, as he tried to explain his fighter`s absence from Saturday`s press briefing. ``He is, in fact, sore.
``He went without my knowledge to the hospital (after the fight). They found out a little part of his jaw is broken. Right now, he is in the hospital.
``His jaw is being set. His eye is puffed. Of course, his hands hurt a little bit. But he never complains about his body. He just can`t understand, with the punching power he has, how Mike Tyson took those shots. We salute Mike Tyson today as the best heavyweight in the world.``
After losing 14 of the 19 rounds he has fought against Tyson, that would seem to be a minimum concession on Ruddock`s part. But Tyson`s critics continued to maintain that the former champion, at 24, is no longer the fearsome fighter he was at 21, even after he had battered Ruddock`s rib cage, broken his jaw and knocked him down twice.
One of those critics is Eddie Futch, the veteran trainer of rising heavyweight Riddick Bowe. He feels Tyson`s lifestyle is catching up with him. As for whether Holyfield or any other heavyweight could handle him, Tyson had this to say: ``In all reality, I`m the champion. The belts are just a symbol. I`ve said I want to fight Holyfield many times. I was entitled to his first defense, but I didn`t get it. He knows he can`t beat me. I know he can`t beat me.``
Tyson promoter Don King reaffirmed his offer of $30 million plus half the promotion to Holyfield. He also said he was willing to accept $25 million and no end of the promotion to get Tyson a title fight. What he will not accept is TVKO`s demand for two options on Tyson.
King also offered George Foreman $15 million plus a percentage of the pay-per-view profits to fight Tyson Nov. 1 at the Mirage, and he says that whichever fighter agrees first gets the bout. Holyfield`s handlers also are trying to lure Foreman with a Nov. 8 rematch at Caesars Palace, thus again leaving Foreman the biggest winner of the night.
``TVKO is where the real problem lies,`` King said. ``It ain`t the Duvas
(Holyfield`s handlers) so much. It`s TVKO. They don`t want me involved in the promotion. All these major fights have been co-promotions for years. They don`t want me to make a dime. What am I supposed to be, Bobo the Clown? Hate me, but hate me to your respective bank and let me go to mine.
``We know the challenger is bigger than the champion. That half-page ad
(Holyfield took out in Las Vegas papers last week challenging Tyson) proves that he`s only half a champion. I put in a full-page ad just to say Only in America. They got the champion chasing the challenger.``
Now a word from the other side. ``After last night, we are totally convinced that Holyfield will beat Tyson,`` Dan Duva, Holyfield`s promoter, said Saturday. ``Don King is afraid of that.``
Well, at least one thing is clear in the heavyweight ranks: Ruddock can`t beat Tyson.
He spent most of the evening hurling wild power punches at the former champion. On several occasions, they hurt Tyson but failed to wobble him. Meanwhile, Tyson dropped Ruddock in the second and fourth rounds with straight rights to the jaw that countered Ruddock`s powerful left hooks.
``It was a very competitive fight,`` Tyson said. ``Much more so than our first fight (which ended in a controversial seventh-round TKO). If his jaw was broken, you never could tell.
``I knew he`d get up. They were like flash knockdowns. They never really hurt him. He rocked me, too, but I didn`t feel it until this morning. I feel like I got beat up by 20 guys.``
Other than the knockdowns, Tyson`s most effective weapon was a two-fisted body attack that strayed south of the Canadian`s border at least a dozen times. More often, they were thrashing Ruddock`s rib cage with a thudding sound.
One of those punches crashed so hard into Ruddock`s ribs in Round 7 that he responded with a rush of air from his mouth that sounded like a train whistle.
In a sense, that whistle signaled the end of Ruddock`s ride toward a championship, although his remarkable recuperative powers allowed him to come back so effectively in Round 10 that Tyson walked slowly to his corner and sat with head bowed when it was over.
Tyson`s trainer, Richie Giachetti, sensing his fighter was growing discouraged despite his big lead, grabbed Tyson`s face and began shouting at him. And across the ring, Ruddock`s cornermen were telling him that Tyson was ready to fall.
As it developed, he was not. Which leaves the Holyfield-Tyson question and the contract mess that goes with it.
Yeah, Wlad is really going to beat that man.
Andrew Golota's injuries:
Golota has multiple injuries after Tyson fight - More Sports - Sport - The IndependentQuote:
Andrew Golota remained hospitalised today after suffering a concussion and a neck injury in a fight against Mike Tyson that he quit after the second round.
Andrew Golota remained hospitalised today after suffering a concussion and a neck injury in a fight against Mike Tyson that he quit after the second round.
"He got hurt, he got injured and it's probably the smartest thing he did," Mariola Golota said of her husband's refusal to go out for the third round on Friday night at the Palace of Auburn Hills in Michigan.
Golota was taken by his wife to Resurrection Medical Center on Chicago's Northwest side after they returned home Saturday morning.
Dr. Wesley Yapor, a neurosurgeon treating Golota, said the fighter sustained a concussion, a fractured left cheekbone and a herniated disc between the fourth and fifth cervical vertebrae.
Yapor, who shared a conference call Sunday with Mariola Golota, said the 32-year-old fighter was fitted with a cervical collar and will need therapy.
"If the symptoms persist, he might need surgery," said Yapor who indicated Golota could be released early in the week.
After an MRI, it was thought there was a little bleeding in the brain, and that does appear to be the case, according to Yapor.
"It's not uncommon for people who sustain serious head injuries to have a cervical injury," said Yapor, explaining that all head injuries are considered serious.
Numbness in Golota's left arm led to an MRI that disclosed the herniated disc. An EEG was normal.
Asked if Golota could fight again, Yapor said, "That's a difficult question to answer. My goal is to get him to where he would have no restrictions."
"Everybody just assumed, well here you have a winner and a quitter," Mariola Golota said. "There was more involved."
"There's no question he sustained a concussion from head blows," Yapor said.
Golota was knocked down by a right to the head late in the first round. He also complained of several head butts by Tyson, one of which apparently opened a cut over his left eye.
"If he had sustained another serious blow to the head he could have become paralyzed," Yapor said. "There's no way I would have allowed him to enter the ring for the second round."
Golota, however, did not complain to a ringside physician about being in distress.
"There's no way I'm blaming the physician who was there," Yapor said.
Golota told trainer Al Certo after the first round he wanted to quit, but Certo told him he could win the fight. After the second round, Mariola Golota said, "He was talking to him (Certo) in Polish."
But Golota told referee Frank Garza more than once in English, "I quit."
After the fight Golota, who had a seizure and was hospitalized after being knocked out in one round by heavyweight champion Lennox Lewis on Oct. 4, 1997, became disoriented and nauseous.
Golota, however, held his own with Tyson in the second round. Yapor said effects of a concussion are not always immediately apparent.
Golota appeared coherent in a couple of brief television interviews immediately after the fight. Once he got to the dressing room, his wife said: "He was pretty incoherent. He was stuttering. Then after about 15 minutes Showtime came in and got a few sentences out of him."
Golota was taken to a hospital near the arena to have the cut stitched. Yapor said he refused to be admitted there and he and his wife returned to Chicago.
"A friend drove us," she said. "We still have friends."
She said eggs were thrown at her law office in a Polish section of Northwest Chicago and that garbage was dumped in front of it, but that it was cleaned up before she saw it. Her husband was peppered with popcorn and showered with beer and soda when he left the ring.
"He does not wish to talk too much about what has happened," she said.
Golota had headaches and was nauseous and "He was very lethargic. I tried to keep him awake," she said.
When she told him he needed "to go to the hospital, he replied 'No, No, I'm all right."' She finally got him to the Resurrection emergency room about 3 p.m. Saturday (2000 GMT), and he was then admitted.
"Andrew wanted to win the fight," she added. "He wanted to show everybody he could fight clean and he could win."
Wlad is a blend of goloto and frank bruno.
Dear god i know Tyson was fun to watch and all but for fuck sake the man best win is 38 year old Holmes who was out of boxing for 2 years. I mean i rank him in top 10 of heavys but when he step in with atg he got smashed pretty badly and then there is Douglas which hurts him because that guy should not of won. As for the Holyfield fights Holyfeild had hep b abd heart problems was older and still won the fight i mean i think people are looking at the past to much its over and not as good as we thought either.
wlad must be one hell of a fight to be even half the fighter bruno wasQuote:
Originally Posted by imp
Bruno is better than Wlad at everything, so is GolotaQuote:
Originally Posted by erics44wlad must be one hell of a fight to be even half the fighter bruno wasQuote:
Originally Posted by imp