Re: Where do u place Morales Hamed Pacquiao Marquez barrera from each other?
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Julius Rain
Can Naz really be place amongst those guys? All of those guys have lost or been down but continued on to be great.
Naz lost once and quit.
Hold on there just a second there Julius. Naz lost to Barrera yes, but he didn't just quit. He came back to beat the all time great that is Manuel Calvo. If you'd beaten Manuel Calvo, you'd know that you have nothing left to prove in your career. So in all honesty, where else would Naz go apart from retirement? He achieved something great there.
Re: Where do u place Morales Hamed Pacquiao Marquez barrera from each other?
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erics44
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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TitoFan
OFFICIAL RESULTS ON NASEEM HAMED:
So far our distinguished voters have seen it this way on Hamed, from a list with 5 fighters:
5th place: 6 voters
1st place: 1 voter
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1. One voter didn't even mention Hamed, which could be interpreted as a vote for 5th place.
2. One voter placed Hamed 6th, even adding a name to the list and further dropping Hamed.
The results speak for themselves, gentlemen.
:deal2:
Yes......... I'm afraid we're all wrong.
;)
Three more votes....... three more Hameds in 5th place. Update as follows:
5th place: 9 voters
1st place: 1 voter
With one "no mention" and one 6th place.
No middle ground with Naz as far as that list is concerned.
the fact that people who are also the voters are so happy that Naz is in last , deems the results of the "poll" unreliable on the basis that the opinions of the votes are less than objective :)
Don't shoot the messenger...... just saying it like it is. :)
BTW... you confirmed my bolded statement above. No middle ground. You and Fenster have him 1st on the list. The rest of the civilized world as we know it has him last.
Re: Where do u place Morales Hamed Pacquiao Marquez barrera from each other?
Hameed was a show off and a bully.....but entertaining
Hameed knew is time was up many hours b4 lacing up his gloves to face MAB
His winners mentalaity wasn't what it should have been and retired.....he lost his edge....that is the lasting effect we will all have of Naz.....abit like Tyson (the school yard bully)....if you stand up to the bully the bully will back off.....it only takes that one defeat to dought yourself....Naz knew this and retired......shame cause IMO it was like unfinished business.....yes MAB had his number but Naz could have gone on to future glory.....We will never know!!!
Job Biscuit (LEGACY)!!!!
eh eh!!!
Re: Where do u place Morales Hamed Pacquiao Marquez barrera from each other?
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
erics44
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
OFFICIAL RESULTS ON NASEEM HAMED:
So far our distinguished voters have seen it this way on Hamed, from a list with 5 fighters:
5th place: 6 voters
1st place: 1 voter
Notes:
1. One voter didn't even mention Hamed, which could be interpreted as a vote for 5th place.
2. One voter placed Hamed 6th, even adding a name to the list and further dropping Hamed.
The results speak for themselves, gentlemen.
:deal2:
Yes......... I'm afraid we're all wrong.
;)
Three more votes....... three more Hameds in 5th place. Update as follows:
5th place: 9 voters
1st place: 1 voter
With one "no mention" and one 6th place.
No middle ground with Naz as far as that list is concerned.
the fact that people who are also the voters are so happy that Naz is in last , deems the results of the "poll" unreliable on the basis that the opinions of the votes are less than objective :)
Don't shoot the messenger...... just saying it like it is. :)
BTW... you confirmed my bolded statement above. No middle ground. You and Fenster have him 1st on the list.
The rest of the civilized world as we know it has him last.
further evidence that your vote is unreliable
Re: Where do u place Morales Hamed Pacquiao Marquez barrera from each other?
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Originally Posted by
erics44
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
erics44
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
OFFICIAL RESULTS ON NASEEM HAMED:
So far our distinguished voters have seen it this way on Hamed, from a list with 5 fighters:
5th place: 6 voters
1st place: 1 voter
Notes:
1. One voter didn't even mention Hamed, which could be interpreted as a vote for 5th place.
2. One voter placed Hamed 6th, even adding a name to the list and further dropping Hamed.
The results speak for themselves, gentlemen.
:deal2:
Yes......... I'm afraid we're all wrong.
;)
Three more votes....... three more Hameds in 5th place. Update as follows:
5th place: 9 voters
1st place: 1 voter
With one "no mention" and one 6th place.
No middle ground with Naz as far as that list is concerned.
the fact that people who are also the voters are so happy that Naz is in last , deems the results of the "poll" unreliable on the basis that the opinions of the votes are less than objective :)
Don't shoot the messenger...... just saying it like it is. :)
BTW... you confirmed my bolded statement above. No middle ground. You and Fenster have him 1st on the list.
The rest of the civilized world as we know it has him last.
further evidence that your vote is unreliable
Ah-ah-ah.... the numbers speak for themselves.
I did not coerce, persuade, bribe, or in any way, shape or form try to influence the voting.
Thus, the validity of the vote stands.
Re: Where do u place Morales Hamed Pacquiao Marquez barrera from each other?
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TitoFan
You and Fenster have him 1st on the list. The rest of the civilized world as we know it has him last.
There is no right or wrong answer to the question posed.
Therefore, your poll also indicates that two people - Fenster and Eric - are innovative free-thinking boxing intellectuals and nine people are mundane blatant haters. Fact.
Re: Where do u place Morales Hamed Pacquiao Marquez barrera from each other?
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Fenster
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
You and Fenster have him 1st on the list. The rest of the civilized world as we know it has him last.
There is no right or wrong answer to the question posed.
Therefore, your poll also indicates that two people - Fenster and Eric - are innovative free-thinking boxing intellectuals and nine people are mundane blatant haters. Fact.
Uhh... refer to previous post.
Re: Where do u place Morales Hamed Pacquiao Marquez barrera from each other?
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
You and Fenster have him 1st on the list. The rest of the civilized world as we know it has him last.
There is no right or wrong answer to the question posed.
Therefore, your poll also indicates that two people - Fenster and Eric - are innovative free-thinking boxing intellectuals and nine people are mundane blatant haters. Fact.
Uhh... refer to previous post.
Uhh... you refer to the previous post.
Naz haters have zero validity.
I'm afraid you are simply not qualified to vote let alone conduct a poll. Fact.
Re: Where do u place Morales Hamed Pacquiao Marquez barrera from each other?
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
You and Fenster have him 1st on the list. The rest of the civilized world as we know it has him last.
There is no right or wrong answer to the question posed.
Therefore, your poll also indicates that two people - Fenster and Eric - are innovative free-thinking boxing intellectuals and nine people are mundane blatant haters. Fact.
Uhh... refer to previous post.
Uhh... you refer to the previous post.
Naz haters have zero validity.
I'm afraid you are simply not qualified to vote let alone conduct a poll. Fact.
Lighten up. ;)
These are only partial results.
We still haven't gotten Naz's mum or other relatives to weigh in on the matter.
50/50 chance they won't have him 5th.
:)
Re: Where do u place Morales Hamed Pacquiao Marquez barrera from each other?
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
You and Fenster have him 1st on the list. The rest of the civilized world as we know it has him last.
There is no right or wrong answer to the question posed.
Therefore, your poll also indicates that two people - Fenster and Eric - are innovative free-thinking boxing intellectuals and nine people are mundane blatant haters. Fact.
Hitler wasn't crazy... The rest of the world was!
Re: Where do u place Morales Hamed Pacquiao Marquez barrera from each other?
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Originally Posted by
Otley
Hameed was a show off and a bully.....but entertaining
Hameed knew is time was up many hours b4 lacing up his gloves to face MAB
His winners mentalaity wasn't what it should have been and retired.....he lost his edge....that is the lasting effect we will all have of Naz.....abit like Tyson (the school yard bully)....if you stand up to the bully the bully will back off.....it only takes that one defeat to dought yourself....Naz knew this and retired......shame cause IMO it was like unfinished business.....yes MAB had his number but Naz could have gone on to future glory.....We will never know!!!
Job Biscuit (LEGACY)!!!!
eh eh!!!
Speaking of legacies, he lost his royal honours... Just like the guy who you've taken your style from has.
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/...e_2359000b.jpg
Would you belieeeeve, job biscuit. Uheehuheehur eh eh
Re: Where do u place Morales Hamed Pacquiao Marquez barrera from each other?
Mab is another legend and first ballot hall of famer whose legacy has been lost in translation. Another great fighter who had his best days at 122 and 126 with some success at 130. I mean he had already fought 60 fights before he met Manny. Most people would agree that when you fight like Mab you normally do not have a long shelf life but he had an exceptional one. That downright licking he handed
Hamed was priceless.
Marquez. Quietly went about his business dominating feather long before Mab or Morales ever arrived and then more or less shared the division when they did despite getting an early start on how to get fucked over in his pro debut because of Jose’s ridiculous head butt rule. After his unfortunate debut he put together a nice run and then got bent over again against Norwood. He battled on and won about 15 straight leading up to Manny. One needs to look no further than the cards to see the diversity in scoring that fight. Still he kept on. Not to be outdone by stupid rules or hacked cards and disputed decisions, his own managing team decides to got fight John in a parking lot in Indonesia for a hundred grand. Yeah that will show them. I wonder if they kissed him first. He has done more late in his career them Erik or Mab. To me the three Mexican warriors are interchangeable as a group on any list.
Manny. What he has done is unprecedented. Nobody in the history has done what Manny has done in the matter in which he has done it. I mean Armstrong did it but not from 106 pounds. Manny did not just beat bigger men, he destroyed them. Having said that unfortunately there will be some asterisks beside his name starting with catch weights and the entire fiasco with Floyd which rightly or wrongly will in some manner taint a portion of his career. In addition some will question how he was able to move up so much and destroy the field. For better or for worse that’s what boxing historians do.
Hamed. Woulda, coulda, shoulda but didn’t. First time he faces an elite fighter and he folds like a cheap lawn chair and then quits. A footnote or ink blot in history. He’s number one in overdone ring entrances but as far as historical legacy goes he does not even belong in the same sentence as the other 4. Sure he had power and a rubber band style but he was a classic underachiever who collapsed after a bit of adversity.
Re: Where do u place Morales Hamed Pacquiao Marquez barrera from each other?
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AdamGB
Speaking of legacies, he lost his royal honours
:o
Wow... didn't know that.
The shame........:shakehead:
Re: Where do u place Morales Hamed Pacquiao Marquez barrera from each other?
Yup. Kept going on about how 'he only feared Allah' and 'Only Allah can judge him' and then overtakes a car at over 90mph, crossing a solid (aka don't over take here, dip stick) white line to impress a business man in the car (scared of what he thought of you?) with him, crashes in to another car, cripples the driver, then to top it off he flees the scene.
Re: Where do u place Morales Hamed Pacquiao Marquez barrera from each other?
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Originally Posted by
AdamGB
Yup. Kept going on about how 'he only feared Allah' and 'Only Allah can judge him' and then overtakes a car at over 90mph, crossing a solid (aka don't over take here, dip stick) white line to impress a business man in the car (scared of what he thought of you?) with him, crashes in to another car, cripples the driver, then to top it off he flees the scene.
He seems to do a lot of that.
