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I will go with Rocky's words: "If Joe Louis could not make a successful comeback, I will not try it."
guess Rocky is admitting there that Joe was better.
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I will go with Rocky's words: "If Joe Louis could not make a successful comeback, I will not try it."
guess Rocky is admitting there that Joe was better.
I read a story about Marciano and louis and comebacks. They did a promotional appearance for a hw title fight and heard the $amounts being tossed around. As they left in a limo, Rocky jumped out and started running along side the car. Louis asked what he was doing. Marciano replied "Making a comeback. Did you hear what they are getting paid?" And Louis jumped out and started running, too..
I think Louis was the best, then Dempsey, then Tunney, then Marciano. (Ali doesn't always break my top 10) But, when it comes to marciano, his conditioning and Goldman make him real tough to beat.
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the government screwed him over which is how he became broke and stayed broke, a very sad end for a great man.
How did they screw him over? Not doubting, just curious. From what I read, I thought he made a ton of shitty investments and fell behind on his taxes.
He was in the Army & doing exhibitions and the government wanted their cut afterwards and he never caught back up. A simple Presidential pardon would have helped Joe out plenty but one was never given.
I guess I was thinking about Moore when Rocky was knocked down...eh, what does that tell you about The Rock? Archie was like 85 when they fought.
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El Kabong dont think you like rocky do you? I didnt even know the great archie moore dropped marciano no disgrace in one of the greatest light heavies dropping you imo. You have to respect the fact marciano was a machine he ate and breathed boxing training and running i read he ran 13 miles everyday without fail even on christmas. It was his lack of talent that casts doubts on him but he was one of the all time greats. Biggest heart ever!
Rocky was one of the fittest heavyweight ever, I read he trained 3 months for fights. He probably had to train hard to make up for his other weaknesses.
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El Kabong dont think you like rocky do you? I didnt even know the great archie moore dropped marciano no disgrace in one of the greatest light heavies dropping you imo. You have to respect the fact marciano was a machine he ate and breathed boxing training and running i read he ran 13 miles everyday without fail even on christmas. It was his lack of talent that casts doubts on him but he was one of the all time greats. Biggest heart ever!
I like Marciano fine...I don't think Archie Moore should have been able to drop him, but hey perhaps The Rock figured it was an easy fight and took his eye off the prize for a second.
I have Joe Louis as being the greatest heavyweight of all time, followed by Rocky, followed by Ali.
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He was in the Army & doing exhibitions and the government wanted their cut afterwards and he never caught back up. A simple Presidential pardon would have helped Joe out plenty but one was never given.
For what Joe did for the US of A, they definitely should have helped him out a bit I think, I agree.
But still, Joe did a lot of dumb shit with his money.
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El Kabong dont think you like rocky do you? I didnt even know the great archie moore dropped marciano no disgrace in one of the greatest light heavies dropping you imo. You have to respect the fact marciano was a machine he ate and breathed boxing training and running i read he ran 13 miles everyday without fail even on christmas. It was his lack of talent that casts doubts on him but he was one of the all time greats. Biggest heart ever!
I like Marciano fine...I don't think Archie Moore should have been able to drop him, but hey perhaps The Rock figured it was an easy fight and took his eye off the prize for a second.
I have Joe Louis as being the greatest heavyweight of all time, followed by Rocky, followed by Ali.
I wouldn't put him any higher than 6th.
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Yep, Joe's jab was really horrid. I wonder how Floyd Mayweather survived all those years......:rolleyes:
;D
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yes Goldman probably would not have let Marciano lose. Seriously. Nobody's beatin' Charlie. Nobody. He once took a banana out from under Rocky's pillow while he was sleeping. Strict as fuck. Take a look at Rocky's conditioning. Can't see him ever gettin' tired or even needing a second wind. He'd just wait for so-and-so to need a 2nd wind, and he'd jump on 'im. Lights out. Everybody needs a 2nd wind---Ali used to tire in the 4th, then again in the 9th, he needed a 3rd wind to finish long fights. Do you think Marciano would let him coast then?
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Take a look at Rocky's conditioning. Can't see him ever gettin' tired or even needing a second wind.
He was hopped up on EPO before anybody!
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Take a look at Rocky's conditioning. Can't see him ever gettin' tired or even needing a second wind.
He was hopped up on EPO before anybody!
electric power operator?
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Take a look at Rocky's conditioning. Can't see him ever gettin' tired or even needing a second wind.
He was hopped up on EPO before anybody!
electric power operator?
elongated penis orgasm!
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He was in the Army & doing exhibitions and the government wanted their cut afterwards and he never caught back up. A simple Presidential pardon would have helped Joe out plenty but one was never given.
For what Joe did for the US of A, they definitely should have helped him out a bit I think, I agree.
But still, Joe did a lot of dumb shit with his money.
What boxer doesn't? These guys make a living getting bashed in the head....being "smart with money" usually allows someone to do something else for a living. Granted certain fighters have been smart with their earnings but they are few and far between.