I do not think Diaz is the problem, Cotto has fought really well under him and Diaz has got the best out of him. The opponents just have been better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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I do not think Diaz is the problem, Cotto has fought really well under him and Diaz has got the best out of him. The opponents just have been better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
Perhaps cotto should start his own weight divison...as theres always an excuse why he seems to loose whether its at 154 or 147.
Cotto was good enough in both weight classes but is mentally damaged after margarito.
Funny... not once have I heard an excuse come out of Cotto's mouth for losing. Not even when he got hammered by Margarito's plaster casts. He's also been willing to fight at catch weights requested by other fighters (ie: Pacquiao). Don't know what the big deal is.
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Originally Posted by MasterI do not think Diaz is the problem, Cotto has fought really well under him and Diaz has got the best out of him. The opponents just have been better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
Which is why he won that one. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by GalaxyAgree except for Margarito IQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterI do not think Diaz is the problem, Cotto has fought really well under him and Diaz has got the best out of him. The opponents just have been better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
Cotto has been very willing but others have made excuses.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Cotto was never the same after that fight with margarito.
The real crime is that margarito, the trainer and bob arum arent in jail.
Luis resto part 2
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Originally Posted by impCotto has been very willing but others have made excuses.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Cotto was never the same after that fight with margarito.
The real crime is that margarito, the trainer and bob arum arent in jail.
Luis resto part 2
Very true. You could also argue that Margarito got hit by big time karma in his fight with Pacquaio, when he got his eye socket shattered (albeit completely legally). The one-year slap on the wrist Margarito received for the plaster incident was shameful. And Jose Sulaiman was bellyaching the whole time. Even more disgraceful.
Its not enough for me tito, just think of all the other careers he might have ruined.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by impCotto has been very willing but others have made excuses.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Cotto was never the same after that fight with margarito.
The real crime is that margarito, the trainer and bob arum arent in jail.
Luis resto part 2
Very true. You could also argue that Margarito got hit by big time karma in his fight with Pacquaio, when he got his eye socket shattered (albeit completely legally). The one-year slap on the wrist Margarito received for the plaster incident was shameful. And Jose Sulaiman was bellyaching the whole time. Even more disgraceful.
When margarito beat martinez many moons ago he was probably cheating then?! At least it was early in sergio career and he could get over it.
Cotto should fight the overrated canelo and just call it a day..154 is his weightclass..just like there are big and litttle heavyweights or welterweights, cotto has to accept sometimes being smaller can play to your advantage.
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Originally Posted by impIts not enough for me tito, just think of all the other careers he might have ruined.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by impCotto has been very willing but others have made excuses.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Cotto was never the same after that fight with margarito.
The real crime is that margarito, the trainer and bob arum arent in jail.
Luis resto part 2
Very true. You could also argue that Margarito got hit by big time karma in his fight with Pacquaio, when he got his eye socket shattered (albeit completely legally). The one-year slap on the wrist Margarito received for the plaster incident was shameful. And Jose Sulaiman was bellyaching the whole time. Even more disgraceful.
When margarito beat martinez many moons ago he was probably cheating then?! At least it was early in sergio career and he could get over it.
Cotto should fight the overrated canelo and just call it a day..154 is his weightclass..just like there are big and litttle heavyweights or welterweights, cotto has to accept sometimes being smaller can play to your advantage.
I'd love to see Cotto fight and beat Canelo. But the clock is ticking and definitely not on Cotto's side. If it's not the next fight, then the chances of Cotto pulling it off diminish significantly, IMO. :-\
Cotto needs to go to canelo body early and expose this golden hype whos scared s£&tless of trout.
I would have love to have seen the difference mayweather sr would have made to cotto earlier on as his trainer.
Yup. The pitiful punishment was almost as big a crime as the act of loading the gloves. Its as if they didn't care but had to do something. Same with roids. The powers at be probably support drug use because of the added explosion they provide in the ring. Its only when someone is caught that they then take the politically correct stance.If they were really concerned some form of random testing would be applied. Instead oh it costs to much, there is only one lab, bla bla bla.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by impCotto has been very willing but others have made excuses.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Cotto was never the same after that fight with margarito.
The real crime is that margarito, the trainer and bob arum arent in jail.
Luis resto part 2
Very true. You could also argue that Margarito got hit by big time karma in his fight with Pacquaio, when he got his eye socket shattered (albeit completely legally). The one-year slap on the wrist Margarito received for the plaster incident was shameful. And Jose Sulaiman was bellyaching the whole time. Even more disgraceful.
@TitoFan It still makes me shake my head that nobody from Cottos corner went in to witness Margarito's hand wraps.
Mayweather Snr knows very little about training fighters, he would not have improved Cotto any more than his current trainer.Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
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Originally Posted by IamInuitYup. The pitiful punishment was almost as big a crime as the act of loading the gloves. Its as if they didn't care but had to do something. Same with roids. The powers at be probably support drug use because of the added explosion they provide in the ring. Its only when someone is caught that they then take the politically correct stance.If they were really concerned some form of random testing would be applied. Instead oh it costs to much, there is only one lab, bla bla bla.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by impCotto has been very willing but others have made excuses.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Cotto was never the same after that fight with margarito.
The real crime is that margarito, the trainer and bob arum arent in jail.
Luis resto part 2
Very true. You could also argue that Margarito got hit by big time karma in his fight with Pacquaio, when he got his eye socket shattered (albeit completely legally). The one-year slap on the wrist Margarito received for the plaster incident was shameful. And Jose Sulaiman was bellyaching the whole time. Even more disgraceful.
@TitoFan It still makes me shake my head that nobody from Cottos corner went in to witness Margarito's hand wraps.
The cost excuse for not improving testing for PEDs in boxing is pathetic. Couple of us had a heated argument about this subject on another thread a while back. Bottom line is, there's enough money in boxing, and testing can be done within certain cost parameters. It's not a bottomless pit of money like some would like us to believe.
I can't fathom either why no one went to Margarito's corner to check the wraps. It's too late after the damage has been done... and to Cotto's credit he came back from that illegal beating to rack up some good wins, including a payback over the cheating bastard himself.
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Originally Posted by MasterMayweather Snr knows very little about training fighters, he would not have improved Cotto any more than his current trainer.Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
I've wondered how the late, great Manny Stewart would've impacted Cotto's career. But at the same time I give all the credit in the world to Pedro Diaz for implementing some unorthodox training methods to Cotto's camp, and for bringing Cotto back toward the boxing style that served him so well earlier in his career.