Re: Paul McCloskey is saying it is a joke if Khan gets a Mayweather fight
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Beanflicker
I've got to disagree. Styles make fights and Amir has the speedster style that can be tricky for Mayweather.
A guy like Guerrero is tailor made for Mayweather's style because he's slow and doesn't really give Floyd a whole lot to process. Khan's hand speed, footspeed and jab would force Floyd out of his comfort zone and have him on his toes and thinking (same reason Pacquaio would have been an interesting matchup for Floyd).
I think Khan has much more of a chance to beat Mayweather than guys like Bradley, Garcia, Matthyse, and most of the other potential Floyd matchups.
people shouldn't post while drunk ;D
Re: Paul McCloskey is saying it is a joke if Khan gets a Mayweather fight
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Howlin Mad Missy
people shouldn't post while drunk ;D
Tell me why any of those guys would be a bigger threat than Khan? Garcia and Matthyse are tailor made for Floyd. Bradley will win a couple rounds at best.
Re: Paul McCloskey is saying it is a joke if Khan gets a Mayweather fight
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Originally Posted by
Beanflicker
I've got to disagree. Styles make fights and Amir has the speedster style that can be tricky for Mayweather.
A guy like Guerrero is tailor made for Mayweather's style because he's slow and doesn't really give Floyd a whole lot to process. Khan's hand speed, footspeed and jab would force Floyd out of his comfort zone and have him on his toes and thinking (same reason Pacquaio would have been an interesting matchup for Floyd).
I think Khan has much more of a chance to beat Mayweather than guys like Bradley, Garcia, Matthyse, and most of the other potential Floyd matchups.
Handspeed, footspeed and jab? So your saying Khan will have the advantage because he'll box Floyd? I dunno man, sounds like a kid bringing his Checker board to a Chess tournament right there. Khan gets shirt circuited and has a nasty habit of mentally seizing when he gets clipped, fighting the other guys fight. Floyd would have him on a leash like a trained poodle before top long.
Re: Paul McCloskey is saying it is a joke if Khan gets a Mayweather fight
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Originally Posted by
Beanflicker
I've got to disagree. Styles make fights and Amir has the speedster style that can be tricky for Mayweather.
A guy like Guerrero is tailor made for Mayweather's style because he's slow and doesn't really give Floyd a whole lot to process. Khan's hand speed, footspeed and jab would force Floyd out of his comfort zone and have him on his toes and thinking (same reason Pacquaio would have been an interesting matchup for Floyd).
I think Khan has much more of a chance to beat Mayweather than guys like Bradley, Garcia, Matthyse, and most of the other potential Floyd matchups.
Amir Khan has fast hands. However, Amir Khan's speed didn't help him against Danny Garcia, a far more limited fighter than Floyd Mayweather. Julio Diaz didn't have too many issues with it either. Neither did Lamont Peterson or Breides Prescott. How is his speed going to cause Floyd Mayweather problems if the rest of those guys didn't have many issues with it?
Most of the time, just because fighter A beats fighter B, doesn't mean fighter C beats fighter B. But, if you lose to Danny Garcia, Breides Prescott, Lamont Peterson, and almost lose to Julio Diaz, you aren't beating Floyd Mayweather.
Re: Paul McCloskey is saying it is a joke if Khan gets a Mayweather fight
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Beanflicker
I've got to disagree. Styles make fights and Amir has the speedster style that can be tricky for Mayweather.
A guy like Guerrero is tailor made for Mayweather's style because he's slow and doesn't really give Floyd a whole lot to process. Khan's hand speed, footspeed and jab would force Floyd out of his comfort zone and have him on his toes and thinking (same reason Pacquaio would have been an interesting matchup for Floyd).
I think Khan has much more of a chance to beat Mayweather than guys like Bradley, Garcia, Matthyse, and most of the other potential Floyd matchups.
Amir Khan has fast hands. However, Amir Khan's speed didn't help him against Danny Garcia, a far more limited fighter than Floyd Mayweather. Julio Diaz didn't have too many issues with it either. Neither did Lamont Peterson or Breides Prescott. How is his speed going to cause Floyd Mayweather problems if the rest of those guys didn't have many issues with it?
Most of the time, just because fighter A beats fighter B, doesn't mean fighter C beats fighter B.
But, if you lose to Danny Garcia, Breides Prescott, Lamont Peterson, and almost lose to Julio Diaz, you aren't beating Floyd Mayweather.
First of all I dont think Khan beats Mayweather but I disagree with the comment above. A)Khan got caught early against Prescott and didnt have a chance to show his speed. B) He had Perterson down on the 1st round and had him in trouble. Peterson was on steroids that gave him the extra edge. C) Garcia was in trouble, was getting picked apart and had a nasty cut. If he hadnt caught him he could have been stopped.
I think Khan has a better chance of beating Floyd then Garcia because there is a chance Khan could win on points. No way in hell is Garcia getting a points victory against Mayweather and Mayweather is too good at avoiding getting hit to be troubled by Garcias hooks
Re: Paul McCloskey is saying it is a joke if Khan gets a Mayweather fight
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Silkeyjoe
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Rantcatrat
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Beanflicker
I've got to disagree. Styles make fights and Amir has the speedster style that can be tricky for Mayweather.
A guy like Guerrero is tailor made for Mayweather's style because he's slow and doesn't really give Floyd a whole lot to process. Khan's hand speed, footspeed and jab would force Floyd out of his comfort zone and have him on his toes and thinking (same reason Pacquaio would have been an interesting matchup for Floyd).
I think Khan has much more of a chance to beat Mayweather than guys like Bradley, Garcia, Matthyse, and most of the other potential Floyd matchups.
Amir Khan has fast hands. However, Amir Khan's speed didn't help him against Danny Garcia, a far more limited fighter than Floyd Mayweather. Julio Diaz didn't have too many issues with it either. Neither did Lamont Peterson or Breides Prescott. How is his speed going to cause Floyd Mayweather problems if the rest of those guys didn't have many issues with it?
Most of the time, just because fighter A beats fighter B, doesn't mean fighter C beats fighter B.
But, if you lose to Danny Garcia, Breides Prescott, Lamont Peterson, and almost lose to Julio Diaz, you aren't beating Floyd Mayweather.
First of all I dont think Khan beats Mayweather but I disagree with the comment above. A)Khan got caught early against Prescott and didnt have a chance to show his speed. B) He had Perterson down on the 1st round and had him in trouble. Peterson was on steroids that gave him the extra edge. C) Garcia was in trouble, was getting picked apart and had a nasty cut. If he hadnt caught him he could have been stopped.
I think Khan has a better chance of beating Floyd then Garcia because there is a chance Khan could win on points. No way in hell is Garcia getting a points victory against Mayweather and Mayweather is too good at avoiding getting hit to be troubled by Garcias hooks
It wasn't a question of who would be easier for Floyd, Garcia or Khan, but whether Khan has a legitimate chance at beating Mayweather. So he had moments against Peterson, Prescott, and Garcia? The point is all those guys found ways to beat Khan, and they are nowhere near the level of Mayweather. If Garcia can time him, if Peterson can force him to fight Peterson's fight, and if Prescott can land that punch, Mayweather can do all those things and a lot more. I'm sorry but it was the same thing with Guerrero; Khan just isn't a challenge for Mayweather. He just isn't. I can't see it.
Missy hates Khan. I feel her. I don't, but against Mayweather, it's just a different level. @Beanflicker thinks very, very highly of Khan. Khan is a good fighter. He's a solid top ten junior welterweight (I think?). Who has been his best win at junior welterweight? Judah? Paulie? Am I missing someone?
Re: Paul McCloskey is saying it is a joke if Khan gets a Mayweather fight
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Rantcatrat
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Silkeyjoe
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Rantcatrat
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Beanflicker
I've got to disagree. Styles make fights and Amir has the speedster style that can be tricky for Mayweather.
A guy like Guerrero is tailor made for Mayweather's style because he's slow and doesn't really give Floyd a whole lot to process. Khan's hand speed, footspeed and jab would force Floyd out of his comfort zone and have him on his toes and thinking (same reason Pacquaio would have been an interesting matchup for Floyd).
I think Khan has much more of a chance to beat Mayweather than guys like Bradley, Garcia, Matthyse, and most of the other potential Floyd matchups.
Amir Khan has fast hands. However, Amir Khan's speed didn't help him against Danny Garcia, a far more limited fighter than Floyd Mayweather. Julio Diaz didn't have too many issues with it either. Neither did Lamont Peterson or Breides Prescott. How is his speed going to cause Floyd Mayweather problems if the rest of those guys didn't have many issues with it?
Most of the time, just because fighter A beats fighter B, doesn't mean fighter C beats fighter B.
But, if you lose to Danny Garcia, Breides Prescott, Lamont Peterson, and almost lose to Julio Diaz, you aren't beating Floyd Mayweather.
First of all I dont think Khan beats Mayweather but I disagree with the comment above. A)Khan got caught early against Prescott and didnt have a chance to show his speed. B) He had Perterson down on the 1st round and had him in trouble. Peterson was on steroids that gave him the extra edge. C) Garcia was in trouble, was getting picked apart and had a nasty cut. If he hadnt caught him he could have been stopped.
I think Khan has a better chance of beating Floyd then Garcia because there is a chance Khan could win on points. No way in hell is Garcia getting a points victory against Mayweather and Mayweather is too good at avoiding getting hit to be troubled by Garcias hooks
It wasn't a question of who would be easier for Floyd, Garcia or Khan, but whether Khan has a legitimate chance at beating Mayweather. So he had moments against Peterson, Prescott, and Garcia? The point is all those guys found ways to beat Khan, and they are nowhere near the level of Mayweather. If Garcia can time him, if Peterson can force him to fight Peterson's fight, and if Prescott can land that punch, Mayweather can do all those things and a lot more. I'm sorry but it was the same thing with Guerrero; Khan just isn't a challenge for Mayweather. He just isn't. I can't see it.
Missy hates Khan. I feel her. I don't, but against Mayweather, it's just a different level. @
Beanflicker thinks very, very highly of Khan. Khan is a good fighter. He's a solid top ten junior welterweight (I think?). Who has been his best win at junior welterweight? Judah? Paulie? Am I missing someone?
Who is a challenge for Mayweather? I thought that was the argument. And I think Khan is more of a challenge then a guy like Garcia. Again Ill repeat, I do not think Khan will beat Mayweather
Re: Paul McCloskey is saying it is a joke if Khan gets a Mayweather fight
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Rantcatrat
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Silkeyjoe
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Rantcatrat
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Beanflicker
I've got to disagree. Styles make fights and Amir has the speedster style that can be tricky for Mayweather.
A guy like Guerrero is tailor made for Mayweather's style because he's slow and doesn't really give Floyd a whole lot to process. Khan's hand speed, footspeed and jab would force Floyd out of his comfort zone and have him on his toes and thinking (same reason Pacquaio would have been an interesting matchup for Floyd).
I think Khan has much more of a chance to beat Mayweather than guys like Bradley, Garcia, Matthyse, and most of the other potential Floyd matchups.
Amir Khan has fast hands. However, Amir Khan's speed didn't help him against Danny Garcia, a far more limited fighter than Floyd Mayweather. Julio Diaz didn't have too many issues with it either. Neither did Lamont Peterson or Breides Prescott. How is his speed going to cause Floyd Mayweather problems if the rest of those guys didn't have many issues with it?
Most of the time, just because fighter A beats fighter B, doesn't mean fighter C beats fighter B.
But, if you lose to Danny Garcia, Breides Prescott, Lamont Peterson, and almost lose to Julio Diaz, you aren't beating Floyd Mayweather.
First of all I dont think Khan beats Mayweather but I disagree with the comment above. A)Khan got caught early against Prescott and didnt have a chance to show his speed. B) He had Perterson down on the 1st round and had him in trouble. Peterson was on steroids that gave him the extra edge. C) Garcia was in trouble, was getting picked apart and had a nasty cut. If he hadnt caught him he could have been stopped.
I think Khan has a better chance of beating Floyd then Garcia because there is a chance Khan could win on points. No way in hell is Garcia getting a points victory against Mayweather and Mayweather is too good at avoiding getting hit to be troubled by Garcias hooks
It wasn't a question of who would be easier for Floyd, Garcia or Khan, but whether Khan has a legitimate chance at beating Mayweather. So he had moments against Peterson, Prescott, and Garcia? The point is all those guys found ways to beat Khan, and they are nowhere near the level of Mayweather. If Garcia can time him, if Peterson can force him to fight Peterson's fight, and if Prescott can land that punch, Mayweather can do all those things and a lot more. I'm sorry but it was the same thing with Guerrero; Khan just isn't a challenge for Mayweather. He just isn't. I can't see it.
Missy hates Khan. I feel her. I don't, but
against Mayweather, it's just a different level. @
Beanflicker thinks very, very highly of Khan. Khan is a good fighter. He's a solid top ten junior welterweight (I think?). Who has been his best win at junior welterweight? Judah? Paulie? Am I missing someone?
This, however, I feel it's too obvious to even debate.
Khan is not a smart fighter, is chinny and some folks think he is going to outbox Mayweather and you wonder why I take the piss?
Re: Paul McCloskey is saying it is a joke if Khan gets a Mayweather fight
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Howlin Mad Missy
Khan is not a smart fighter, is chinny and some folks think he is going to outbox Mayweather and you wonder why I take the piss?
In boxing, anything can happen. The chances of a Welter/Junior Welter beating Mayweather are very, very slim. The guy is just a different level. So as a fan, you look for the skills that make the most viable opponent for him. Mayweather was hurt by Mosley, so some would like to see how an older Mayweather would stand up against a solid puncher like Lucas Matthysse. Likewise, Mayweather had a little trouble Judah's speed, so people think that as Khan is a faster fighter, Floyd may struggle with someone who is just as fast. Everyone is beatable. Everyone has a weakness. The problem is that Floyd's weaknesses are barely visable, so the average fan is going to cling on to something he has struggled with, even if it was slight. Some have argued that Khan is more viable than Garcia. This is purely stylistically, and has nothing to do with if they think Khan is better than Garcia, it is more that Khan has a skill that is more likely to pose Mayweather a problem than Garcia.
Re: Paul McCloskey is saying it is a joke if Khan gets a Mayweather fight
Roy Jones thinks Khan has the speed and style to give Floyd problems too.
Re: Paul McCloskey is saying it is a joke if Khan gets a Mayweather fight
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Spicoli
I think Khan has much more of a chance to beat Mayweather than guys like Bradley, Garcia, Matthyse, and most of the other potential Floyd matchups.
Handspeed, footspeed and jab? So your saying Khan will have the advantage because he'll box Floyd? I dunno man, sounds like a kid bringing his Checker board to a Chess tournament right there. Khan gets shirt circuited and has a nasty habit of mentally seizing when he gets clipped, fighting the other guys fight. Floyd would have him on a leash like a trained poodle before top long.[/QUOTE]
Oh don't get me wrong, I don't think Khan beats Floyd. I just say that with his general speed (of hand and foot) he's giving Floyd a lot more to think about than a guy like Matthyse or Garcia, who would get boxed silly.
Khan has a china chin and has been on the skids lately, but when his head is on he's a superb boxing talent.
Re: Paul McCloskey is saying it is a joke if Khan gets a Mayweather fight
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Rantcatrat
Amir Khan has fast hands. However, Amir Khan's speed didn't help him against Danny Garcia, a far more limited fighter than Floyd Mayweather. Julio Diaz didn't have too many issues with it either. Neither did Lamont Peterson or Breides Prescott. How is his speed going to cause Floyd Mayweather problems if the rest of those guys didn't have many issues with it?
Most of the time, just because fighter A beats fighter B, doesn't mean fighter C beats fighter B. But, if you lose to Danny Garcia, Breides Prescott, Lamont Peterson, and almost lose to Julio Diaz, you aren't beating Floyd Mayweather.
I'm not saying he beats Floyd, I'm just saying he poses more of a risk than Matthyse, Garcia and Bradley.
Again, different fighters, different styles. Ali beat Shavers and Foreman convincingly, but he struggled mightly against Norton and Frazier. Shavers and Foreman had no problem with Norton, and Foreman certainly had no trouble with Frazier.
Peterson, Diaz, Garcia, and Prescott don't fight the same way Mayweather does. Obviously they are inferior, but Floyd isn't going to fight that kind of fight against Khan. Its not what he does.
Re: Paul McCloskey is saying it is a joke if Khan gets a Mayweather fight
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Howlin Mad Missy
This, however, I feel it's too obvious to even debate.
Khan is not a smart fighter, is chinny and some folks think he is going to outbox Mayweather and you wonder why I take the piss?
Someone wanna show me where I (or anyone else) said he'd beat Mayweather?
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Beanflicker
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Howlin Mad Missy
This, however, I feel it's too obvious to even debate.
Khan is not a smart fighter, is chinny and some folks think he is going to outbox Mayweather and you wonder why I take the piss?
Someone wanna show me where I (or anyone else) said he'd beat Mayweather?
So McCloskey is right then? Good. End of discussion.
