Re: Froch ready to "kill" kessler
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Kessler never held on for dear life like that against Froch.
I saw the fight already and have seen the fight several times. I have it on DVD. Kessler comes right back at him after a brief rest.
Here is Mikkel himself
"You have to have a game-plan against Carl, who has longer arms than I thought and is physically strong, as if you hit him he will hit you right back," said Kessler, who defeated Brian Magee in December to seize his strap.
"I know some more things about him now having seen his previous fights against guys like Lucian Bute, but I think Froch, who is not as fast as Joe Calzaghe but hits harder, has got better (since we fought).
Fantastic Mr Froch | News | Ringside | Sky Sports
In the BN interview today he says (and you will have to trust me or buy a copy because I can't find a link, so have copied word for word)
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..even if Joe gave me a much more technically difficult fight, Carl was my hardest fight, both physically and mentally, and my greatest victory." Kessler also reveals that, even amid the glow of victory, he felt far more battered the morning after the Froch fight. "But it was a good hurt" he says with a grin."When you don't care. When you lose it's a bad hurt in your heart. After Joe only my tendons were very sore. But they always are when a fight goes past six rounds. The punches from Joe didn't hurt too much because he's not such a hard hitter. With Carl you feel the blows much more.
He is very slow but a strong puncher"
But yet Calzaghe fought the best version of Kessler ever whereas Froch fought the comebacking version whod just been beaten again and he still managed to give Froch his first loss.
Kessler can tell all the fairy storys he wants about who doesnt hit hard and who does but If Joe didnt hit hard why didnt he just walk through him?
Not sure joe fought a better version. When kessler fought joe he was young inexperienced and away from home. When h fought carl he was at home and his career was on the line. He also had more experience at world class and seemed to put it all on the line and fight with more desperation than he did in cardiff[/QUOTE]
Are you for real?
Kessler was inexperienced!!?
He fought Siaca, mundine, Lucas, Beyer and Andrade, travelled to Australia, wan and unified 2 world titles. There was no one else for him to fight in the division that meant anything other than Joe. Froch was a nobody at this point, still yet to fight Robin Reid who was his first former world champion or even ex title challenger. Froch meant nothing on the world stage at this point and was not a legitimate challenge for either Calzaghe or Kessler.
Re: Froch ready to "kill" kessler
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Kessler never held on for dear life like that against Froch.
I saw the fight already and have seen the fight several times. I have it on DVD. Kessler comes right back at him after a brief rest.
Here is Mikkel himself
"You have to have a game-plan against Carl, who has longer arms than I thought and is physically strong, as if you hit him he will hit you right back," said Kessler, who defeated Brian Magee in December to seize his strap.
"I know some more things about him now having seen his previous fights against guys like Lucian Bute, but I think Froch, who is not as fast as Joe Calzaghe but hits harder, has got better (since we fought).
Fantastic Mr Froch | News | Ringside | Sky Sports
In the BN interview today he says (and you will have to trust me or buy a copy because I can't find a link, so have copied word for word)
"
..even if Joe gave me a much more technically difficult fight, Carl was my hardest fight, both physically and mentally, and my greatest victory." Kessler also reveals that, even amid the glow of victory, he felt far more battered the morning after the Froch fight. "But it was a good hurt" he says with a grin."When you don't care. When you lose it's a bad hurt in your heart. After Joe only my tendons were very sore. But they always are when a fight goes past six rounds. The punches from Joe didn't hurt too much because he's not such a hard hitter. With Carl you feel the blows much more.
He is very slow but a strong puncher"
But yet Calzaghe fought the best version of Kessler ever whereas Froch fought the comebacking version whod just been beaten again and he still managed to give Froch his first loss.
Kessler can tell all the fairy storys he wants about who doesnt hit hard and who does but If Joe didnt hit hard why didnt he just walk through him?
Not sure joe fought a better version. When kessler fought joe he was young inexperienced and away from home. When h fought carl he was at home and his career was on the line. He also had more experience at world class and seemed to put it all on the line and fight with more desperation than he did in cardiff
You're just reaching for an excuse now. And you failed badly.
Re: Froch ready to "kill" kessler
VD,
So youre saying kessler fighting away from home is better than a kessler fighting at home? Lol why do think fighters demand home advantage if it means nothing
Ross
Kessler was less experienced cuz he hadnt fought in Cardiff infront of 50k before. He was much more at home vs froch
Re: Froch ready to "kill" kessler
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VD,
So youre saying kessler fighting away from home is better than a kessler fighting at home? Lol why do think fighters demand home advantage if it means nothing
Ross
Kessler was less experienced cuz he hadnt fought in Cardiff infront of 50k before. He was much more at home vs froch
Kessler had already made 4 title defenses. He went into Australia (which just might have the most bias officials ever) to fight Mundine and he had already headlined HBO (against Andrade). To call him inexperience is.....how can I say this in polite terms. Fucking moronic.
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VD And its pathetic to say that home advantage doesnt mean anything. Clearly it does. He was less experienced vs joe. Fact
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VD And its pathetic to say that home advantage doesnt mean anything. Clearly it does. He was less experienced vs joe. Fact
I'm not saying it doesn't mean anything. I'm saying he had experience fighting on the big stage before. Which he did. So it shouldn't be used as an excuse
Re: Froch ready to "kill" kessler
i was wrong. kessler let froch off waaaay too many times. there was no fire in kessler. he should retire.
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i was wrong. kessler let froch off waaaay too many times. there was no fire in kessler. he should retire.
Kessler started slow but froch stated with a good jab. Kessler landed some bombs but when they did nothing to froch it knocked his confidence. There will be a third fight.
Re: Froch ready to "kill" kessler
Well done to Froch.
I thought Kessler would stop him and he landed somebeautifull shots on Froch. I was pissed off with the scoring I thought it could have been a draw.
Alot of the rounds again, Kessler I think stole with the better sharper combinations but he just didnt seem to be able to sustain in like the last fight. Personally, I think hes finished at this weight. He took a fight over the super middle limit last year, granted he only weighed in just over a pound over the 12 stone limit but there must have been a reason for it and he just look exhausted in the last few rounds but I still felt he won enough rounds to earn a draw.
If this had been the Kessler of 6 years ago, he would have finished Carl in the 11th but as it was he had nothing left in the tank.
Get a unification with Bika for the WBC and become the unified world champ, if he has anything left after this. Bika will be a nightmare of. Fight for Froch with his defence.
Re: Froch ready to "kill" kessler
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Well done to Froch.
I thought Kessler would stop him and he landed somebeautifull shots on Froch. I was pissed off with the scoring I thought it could have been a draw.
Alot of the rounds again, Kessler I think stole with the better sharper combinations but he just didnt seem to be able to sustain in like the last fight. Personally, I think hes finished at this weight. He took a fight over the super middle limit last year, granted he only weighed in just over a pound over the 12 stone limit but there must have been a reason for it and he just look exhausted in the last few rounds but I still felt he won enough rounds to earn a draw.
If this had been the Kessler of 6 years ago, he would have finished Carl in the 11th but as it was he had nothing left in the tank.
Get a unification with Bika for the WBC and become the unified world champ, if he has anything left after this. Bika will be a nightmare of. Fight for Froch with his defence.
It was a much clearer win for Froch than the first was for Kessler. The only way you could see a draw was if you were determined to give no Credit to Froch.
Re: Froch ready to "kill" kessler
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Well done to Froch.
I thought Kessler would stop him and he landed somebeautifull shots on Froch. I was pissed off with the scoring I thought it could have been a draw.
Alot of the rounds again, Kessler I think stole with the better sharper combinations but he just didnt seem to be able to sustain in like the last fight. Personally, I think hes finished at this weight. He took a fight over the super middle limit last year, granted he only weighed in just over a pound over the 12 stone limit but there must have been a reason for it and he just look exhausted in the last few rounds but I still felt he won enough rounds to earn a draw.
If this had been the Kessler of 6 years ago, he would have finished Carl in the 11th but as it was he had nothing left in the tank.
Get a unification with Bika for the WBC and become the unified world champ, if he has anything left after this. Bika will be a nightmare of. Fight for Froch with his defence.
It was a much clearer win for Froch than the first was for Kessler. The only way you could see a draw was if you were determined to give no Credit to Froch.
Alot of Frochs shots werent landing cleanly. I dont know who does the punch stats for this fight but they were bullshit. If this were based on shots lamded like in a,ateur most of Frochs punches wouldnt count as they glanced or caught gloves and arms. When Kessler caught Froch it was clear, sweat spraying everywhere.
Re: Froch ready to "kill" kessler
Froch dominated a lot of the rounds with his jab. Kessler won rounds when he threw punches in bunches but got tired. Kessler did land some great punches but Froch walked through them.
