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Oooh, big prediction....see I think he still holds out hope of fighting Vitali so he'll come prepared but the question will be "Can he handle a free swinging BIG heavyweight?" Haye was very cautious vs Valuev and Wladimir will he be that cautious with Fury or will he rush him the way he's rushed some of the smaller heavies like Chisora?Quote:
Originally Posted by boyla
He didn't "rush" Chisora, he fought the same way he did against Wlad, the difference was Chisora was putting him under constant pressure, hence he threw much more punches. Haye's "caution" mirrored that of Wlad's in their fight. Obviously Wlad has mastered the safety first style, using his size advantage to best effect, and was able to outfox Haye. Forget Valuev because the size differential is enough to spoil any fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongOooh, big prediction....see I think he still holds out hope of fighting Vitali so he'll come prepared but the question will be "Can he handle a free swinging BIG heavyweight?" Haye was very cautious vs Valuev and Wladimir will he be that cautious with Fury or will he rush him the way he's rushed some of the smaller heavies like Chisora?Quote:
Originally Posted by boyla
Wlad fought Haye the way he fights everyone...people say it's "cautious" but it was the sweet science pure and simple. Wlad hits guys and doesn't allow them to hit him back its a very difficult way to fight and Wlad has been damn near untouchable doing it. vs Haye Wlad was the one stalking Haye in that fight, on a rare occasion Haye would attempt to attack Wlad and Wlad would negate that by leaning on Haye and by moving his feet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Haye went after Chisora more than he did Wlad because there was less danger and there was not as much of a size difference.
I think if Fury BOXES he'll beat Haye, if he swings wildly like some angry gypsy Yeti he'll get KTFO in hilarious fashion
Yeah Wlad was able to make Haye more "cautious" because he was too good and experienced to give him chances to fight his fight. However, Haye didn't change his style for Wlad, he just couldn't exploit Wlad's weaknesses.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongWlad fought Haye the way he fights everyone...people say it's "cautious" but it was the sweet science pure and simple. Wlad hits guys and doesn't allow them to hit him back its a very difficult way to fight and Wlad has been damn near untouchable doing it. vs Haye Wlad was the one stalking Haye in that fight, on a rare occasion Haye would attempt to attack Wlad and Wlad would negate that by leaning on Haye and by moving his feet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Haye went after Chisora more than he did Wlad because there was less danger and there was not as much of a size difference.
I think if Fury BOXES he'll beat Haye, if he swings wildly like some angry gypsy Yeti he'll get KTFO in hilarious fashion
I sort of agree - If Fury tries a negative saftety first approach he might last a few rounds.
Fury has a huge reach advantage which could help negate David's advantage in handspeed and athletic ability. But Tyson Fury isn't a boxing genius by any stretch of the imagination and so I think he'll jab, fall in to try to land a big cross and Haye will rip a shot through his guard and it'll be all she wrote.
I think David Haye could be a better heavyweight than he is but he just doesn't want to be, he's not driven enough. And his trainer is a full on idiot....just a fucking hyped up spin class instructor with a towel and a spit bucket
Haye will be within a couple of pounds of his last fight weight and he'll beat Fury as easily as he beat Chisora.Quote:
Originally Posted by boyla
Looks like its on. 28th September Manchester arena. Haye will win this with a brutal ko in under 5
Haye will get busted up just like Steve. Fury is not the most skilled but his sheer size will breakdown and destroy Haye.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyu
I think Price will like to take on the winner.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
My prediction of Fury running for the hills is not looking good however I remember all this talk also before he bailed on the Price fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterI think Price will like to take on the winner.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
haye will destroy fury without a single doubt in my mind. Fury hasn't got the skill to stop haye, yes he has the size of a Klit but it takes more than that to beat haye when he's on his game like he will be. Wlad's is a supreme athlete, something fury is not and he is very fast for such a big guy again something fury isn't blessed with. Also wlad has great BOXING skill another thing fury does not have. Another problem is furys chin. He was flattened heavily by a none punching cruiser who us past his best in Cunningham. If that had been haye landing that right hand he wouldn't have got up and if he did he would have been finished when he got up. Haye has power, speed and is a much much classier BOXER too. Haye KO within 4 is my prediction. Remember it.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitMy prediction of Fury running for the hills is not looking good however I remember all this talk also before he bailed on the Price fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterI think Price will like to take on the winner.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
To be honest there are probably very few barring Ross or Master, here at Saddos who are giving Fury a chance in the fight. Fury is nowhere near Wlad for boxing ability, as you rightly pointed out, and will do well to keep Haye off him for 4 rounds. It will be fun while it lasts. The build up will be epic and the aftermath could be a bit messy.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyuhaye will destroy fury without a single doubt in my mind. Fury hasn't got the skill to stop haye, yes he has the size of a Klit but it takes more than that to beat haye when he's on his game like he will be. Wlad's is a supreme athlete, something fury is not and he is very fast for such a big guy again something fury isn't blessed with. Also wlad has great BOXING skill another thing fury does not have. Another problem is furys chin. He was flattened heavily by a none punching cruiser who us past his best in Cunningham. If that had been haye landing that right hand he wouldn't have got up and if he did he would have been finished when he got up. Haye has power, speed and is a much much classier BOXER too. Haye KO within 4 is my prediction. Remember it.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitMy prediction of Fury running for the hills is not looking good however I remember all this talk also before he bailed on the Price fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterI think Price will like to take on the winner.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
Even Harrison had him cautious for a few rounds;DQuote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzTo be honest there are probably very few barring Ross or Master, here at Saddos who are giving Fury a chance in the fight. Fury is nowhere near Wlad for boxing ability, as you rightly pointed out, and will do well to keep Haye off him for 4 rounds. It will be fun while it lasts. The build up will be epic and the aftermath could be a bit messy.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyuhaye will destroy fury without a single doubt in my mind. Fury hasn't got the skill to stop haye, yes he has the size of a Klit but it takes more than that to beat haye when he's on his game like he will be. Wlad's is a supreme athlete, something fury is not and he is very fast for such a big guy again something fury isn't blessed with. Also wlad has great BOXING skill another thing fury does not have. Another problem is furys chin. He was flattened heavily by a none punching cruiser who us past his best in Cunningham. If that had been haye landing that right hand he wouldn't have got up and if he did he would have been finished when he got up. Haye has power, speed and is a much much classier BOXER too. Haye KO within 4 is my prediction. Remember it.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitMy prediction of Fury running for the hills is not looking good however I remember all this talk also before he bailed on the Price fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterI think Price will like to take on the winner.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
Not really, when you're looking to counter punch, it helps if your opponent actually initiates an attack (throws a punch). This is a problem Haye wont have with Fury. And considering how susceptible Fury is to overhand rights, unless he works fucking hard on changing that, he's in trouble.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossEven Harrison had him cautious for a few rounds;DQuote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzTo be honest there are probably very few barring Ross or Master, here at Saddos who are giving Fury a chance in the fight. Fury is nowhere near Wlad for boxing ability, as you rightly pointed out, and will do well to keep Haye off him for 4 rounds. It will be fun while it lasts. The build up will be epic and the aftermath could be a bit messy.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyuhaye will destroy fury without a single doubt in my mind. Fury hasn't got the skill to stop haye, yes he has the size of a Klit but it takes more than that to beat haye when he's on his game like he will be. Wlad's is a supreme athlete, something fury is not and he is very fast for such a big guy again something fury isn't blessed with. Also wlad has great BOXING skill another thing fury does not have. Another problem is furys chin. He was flattened heavily by a none punching cruiser who us past his best in Cunningham. If that had been haye landing that right hand he wouldn't have got up and if he did he would have been finished when he got up. Haye has power, speed and is a much much classier BOXER too. Haye KO within 4 is my prediction. Remember it.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitMy prediction of Fury running for the hills is not looking good however I remember all this talk also before he bailed on the Price fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterI think Price will like to take on the winner.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz