Glove shaving. It should be outlawed

Why do Mexican fighters cheat so damn much? Why is it that Mexican boxing so much more dirtier than any other boxing town? Geezus... I would never fight in Mexico if I were a fighter, and would have the strictest rules for Mexican fighters fighting me on my home turf or away from Mexico.

to clarify, it would make sense to me that by binding the glove higher it 'may' cause it to compact - some of you are you are saying the opposite is true, that you are able to 'massage' the padding down the glove away from the knuckle.

A rep from the opposing fighers corner if not the trainer, commission are present when wrapping and they don't complain. The ref doesn't complain, they will say 'as discussed in the dressing room these shorts are a little high', etc. The rest of the corner and fighter could also complain before the first bell.....so why don't they?

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Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy

to clarify, it would make sense to me that by binding the glove higher it 'may' cause it to compact - some of you are you are saying the opposite is true, that you are able to 'massage' the padding down the glove away from the knuckle.

A rep from the opposing fighers corner if not the trainer, commission are present when wrapping and they don't complain. The ref doesn't complain, they will say 'as discussed in the dressing room these shorts are a little high', etc. The rest of the corner and fighter could also complain before the first bell.....so why don't they?

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I dont think its to do with moving the padding. More likely that its done as an extra bonus that something extra is there to drag across the skin on the face should the punch not land clean.

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Originally Posted by ykdadamaja

Why do Mexican fighters cheat so damn much? Why is it that Mexican boxing so much more dirtier than any other boxing town? Geezus... I would never fight in Mexico if I were a fighter, and would have the strictest rules for Mexican fighters fighting me on my home turf or away from Mexico.

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Its not just Mexico but it seems almost normal there. They do it all over Asia and lets not forget that many have gotten away with it in the States also. Ones fist becomes the end of a cast. I bet the ko% in a study would be somewhat alarming.

People need to understand that prefight stuff is shockingly lax compared to what you'd expect.

Trainers watching the opponent wrap is actually rare.

Different commission have different rules. Sometimes a commissioner will leave it to his deputy to watch the wrap. Some commissions watch the wrap and then leave the dressing room.

New York stays the whole time and watches everything but that's the exception not the rule. Different rules for different places.

If you need the money you aren't going too complain and risk not getting paid. Until there is unity in boxing you have to protect yourself. That's sad, you should only have to worry about fighting.

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Originally Posted by ross

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Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy

to clarify, it would make sense to me that by binding the glove higher it 'may' cause it to compact - some of you are you are saying the opposite is true, that you are able to 'massage' the padding down the glove away from the knuckle.

A rep from the opposing fighers corner if not the trainer, commission are present when wrapping and they don't complain. The ref doesn't complain, they will say 'as discussed in the dressing room these shorts are a little high', etc. The rest of the corner and fighter could also complain before the first bell.....so why don't they?

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I dont think its to do with moving the padding. More likely that its done as an extra bonus that something extra is there to drag across the skin on the face should the punch not land clean.

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that would make more sense but again. Everyone involved should take responsibility for the safety of the fighter - including the fighter!

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Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

People need to understand that prefight stuff is shockingly lax compared to what you'd expect.

Trainers watching the opponent wrap is actually rare.

Different commission have different rules. Sometimes a commissioner will leave it to his deputy to watch the wrap. Some commissions watch the wrap and then leave the dressing room.

New York stays the whole time and watches everything but that's the exception not the rule. Different rules for different places.

If you need the money you aren't going too complain and risk not getting paid. Until there is unity in boxing you have to protect yourself. That's sad, you should only have to worry about fighting.

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Then they have a shitty trainer. The guys I know look after their fighters well and being pissy and saying no to anything shady is part of that job.

You wonder why, in all those pictures, one guy has his gloves taped up high and the other guy doesn't? If it is such an incredible advantage...is one side ignorant of that? I doubt that one camp is that much more ethical than the other- my experiences tell me that that is not the case. Maybe they think they are gaining some advantage by taping the other way?

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Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy

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Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

People need to understand that prefight stuff is shockingly lax compared to what you'd expect.

Trainers watching the opponent wrap is actually rare.

Different commission have different rules. Sometimes a commissioner will leave it to his deputy to watch the wrap. Some commissions watch the wrap and then leave the dressing room.

New York stays the whole time and watches everything but that's the exception not the rule. Different rules for different places.

If you need the money you aren't going too complain and risk not getting paid. Until there is unity in boxing you have to protect yourself. That's sad, you should only have to worry about fighting.

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Then they have a shitty trainer. The guys I know look after their fighters well and being pissy and saying no to anything shady is part of that job.

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I agree fundamentally. But it's not that black and white. In North America or Europe it should be that simple. But what about the guy in San Salvador who has training expenses and needs his pay to keep food on the table. He is going to go forward with the fight if there's razor wire onthe gloves. Not everyone can afford a proper team or even a proper trainer.

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Originally Posted by Master

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Originally Posted by IamInuit

Damn just watching a card from Mexico. Javier Quiebra vs Gerardo González. The tape line is right at the bottom of the thumb. Never seen tape that high before.

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Got a picture? Still can't get it into my head what is the big deal.

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Just picture a pillow, you can grab a pillow by the very corner fabric and suspend it whilst the padding falls to the bottom part of a fabric. The padding in the boxing glove obviously doesn't shift that dramatically but the principle is the same. So what these guys are doing is shifting more of the padding towards the lower part of the glove and keeping it in place by securing it with the tape that should only be there to keep the laces intact. It should be illegal but you see it in Mexico constantly. What happened the cuffs Everlast had come out with that covered the tape or could in effect render tape useless. They were designed to go over the laces but the commissions still made guys tape up anyways. Mandating those would probably eliminate this and there would be no more stoppages for loose tape. At least the cuff over the tape would make any attempts at "skinning" completely obvious.

Jermain Taylor wearing those cuffs I mentioned. http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopo...g-lacy-jpg.jpg