Re: Fury is going to shock us against Haye!
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Vendettos
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ykdadamaja
Re: Fury is going to shock us against Haye!
What? He's gonna last more than 2 rounds?
Referencing Price again?
;D
Re: Fury is going to shock us against Haye!
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ross
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Vendettos
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ykdadamaja
Re: Fury is going to shock us against Haye!
What? He's gonna last more than 2 rounds?
Referencing Price again?
;D
Fury won't see past 2.
I actually give fury more chance against Haye than I do against price.
Re: Fury is going to shock us against Haye!
Thats because you have been brought up in plastic cheese slices and deep fried mars bars;D
Re: Fury is going to shock us against Haye!
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ross
Thats because you have been brought up in plastic cheese slices and deep fried mars bars;D
You should have been an abortion.
Re: Fury is going to shock us against Haye!
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Vendettos
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ross
Thats because you have been brought up in plastic cheese slices and deep fried mars bars;D
You should have been an abortion.
Whats it like?
Re: Fury is going to shock us against Haye!
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ross
Chisora did what he could with what he has. Fury has also come on leaps and bounds since then whereas Chisora is still fighting the same. Fury is also in far better shape now.
Haye does not have a great defence. He has got away with what he does because he's fought who?
Exactly!
fury is a better fighter also yes, I still think it would be a much closer fight if the two fought again and I don't think fury would have it all his own way
in recent years I haven't seen haye punched clean in the face and you cant do what he has done in that time without fighting decent fighters
Re: Fury is going to shock us against Haye!
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erics44
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ross
Chisora did what he could with what he has. Fury has also come on leaps and bounds since then whereas Chisora is still fighting the same. Fury is also in far better shape now.
Haye does not have a great defence. He has got away with what he does because he's fought who?
Exactly!
fury is a better fighter also yes, I still think it would be a much closer fight if the two fought again and I don't think fury would have it all his own way
in recent years I haven't seen haye punched clean in the face and you cant do what he has done in that time without fighting decent fighters
Decent fighters at heavy?
Audley Harrison? john Ruiz? Valuev? barrett?
Wlad hit him and he didnt want to know;D
Re: Fury is going to shock us against Haye!
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ross
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erics44
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ross
Chisora did what he could with what he has. Fury has also come on leaps and bounds since then whereas Chisora is still fighting the same. Fury is also in far better shape now.
Haye does not have a great defence. He has got away with what he does because he's fought who?
Exactly!
fury is a better fighter also yes, I still think it would be a much closer fight if the two fought again and I don't think fury would have it all his own way
in recent years I haven't seen haye punched clean in the face and you cant do what he has done in that time without fighting decent fighters
Decent fighters at heavy?
Audley Harrison? john Ruiz? Valuev? barrett?
Wlad hit him and he didnt want to know;D
ha, I was gonna end my previous post with "Q the who has he fought a heavyweight conversation"
wlad is the best heavyweight out there by a long long way and if he had hit him cleanly he would have knocked him out but he didnt
against Harrison, ruiz, valuev, barrett, chisora he hardly took a punch, ok great opposition or not they couldn't hit him (ruiz a hand full of times and barrett when he was on his way down from a slip)
this all suggests to me that haye has a good defence
Re: Fury is going to shock us against Haye!
Haye fought old men who had been retired. They were slow and didnt fight at a pace.
You are talking like most were about Price before he fought Thompson. Looking good against that level of opposition is not hard. He got dropped by Barrett looked shite against Harrison, didnt deserve the nod against Valuev, struggled to put Ruiz away (even with his massive power and speed) and basically just wanted to hear the final bell against Wlad.
What has he done at heavy that is anything to get excited about?
Re: Fury is going to shock us against Haye!
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ross
Haye fought old men who had been retired. They were slow and didnt fight at a pace.
You are talking like most were about Price before he fought Thompson. Looking good against that level of opposition is not hard. He got dropped by Barrett looked shite against Harrison, didnt deserve the nod against Valuev, struggled to put Ruiz away (even with his massive power and speed) and basically just wanted to hear the final bell against Wlad.
What has he done at heavy that is anything to get excited about?
we are talking about hayes defence not what he has done at HW
Price v Thompson has nothing to do with hayes defence
as said before all of those fighters you mention failed to really hit him with very few exceptions (on his way down against barrett, ruiz once or twice)
wlad (by far the best HW in the world) caught him a few times but never really cleanly
suggests haye has a good defence does it not?
Re: Fury is going to shock us against Haye!
No...
As I said it was down to the ineptitude of the opponents. chisora landed plenty because he wasnt an old man!
If Fury had fought that list of opponents h and even had the same results, that would be picked apart. For some reason Haye gets priase for potential.
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Well if it doesn't show Haye has a good defence maybe it shows he has a strong chin? Fury has been down more than Haye at heavyweight?
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Well if it doesn't show Haye has a good defence maybe it shows he has a strong chin? Fury has been down more than Haye at heavyweight?
Yeah, by people who weigh over 200lb
Is it more of an acheivment to get knocked over by smaller people?;D
Re: Fury is going to shock us against Haye!
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ross
No...
As I said it was down to the ineptitude of the opponents. chisora landed plenty because he wasnt an old man!
If Fury had fought that list of opponents h and even had the same results, that would be picked apart. For some reason Haye gets priase for potential.
you cant be about to tell me fury has shown a better defence than haye?
Re: Fury is going to shock us against Haye!
Go on Ross! Fuckin' tell em all.
Cunts. ;D
No seriously - It's one of those fights where both guys could easily loose because they're are so flawed. Haye IMO can be very effective with his head movement (at times he was evading Wlad at point blank range, check the head-movement before he drops Ruiz etc.) but it's far from conventional and must be exploited by someone with the size and absurd reach of Fury. Then again, he is no better! ;D
Anyway, I'm still trying to work out who Carl Williams is supposed to be? ;D ;D