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I expected a lot more thinks (like many other boxing fans) from Andre Dirrell, in fact I thought he would rule the SM division one day.
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Roy Jones Jr should of been up there with Robinson IMO...
A few more that come to mind:
Jemal Hinton
Ricky Womack
Ginger Tshabalala
Harry Simon
Spencer Oliver
Jawaid Khaliq
Damn. Having seen some of those names in a long time. Womack is a classic case of wasted talent. Holyfield use to speak highly of him. Allah told Hinton he shouldn't fight any more. And he never did again. Oliver got ruined by a fighter from the Ukraine. Simon is actually still fighting. Khaliq is a trainer. I have no idea what ever became of Ginger Tshabalala
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Wasn't Grant thought of highly before Lewis raped him its been a while since that fight. I think Tyson is up there as well because he fell short in most of his big fights kinda like Oscar did as well. As for the overachievers i say Bradley and Holyfeild would be at the top of that list.
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James Toney could have been better but food took more priority.
VD had mentioned Judah and I agree because he had a whole Sports Illustrated article and was mentioned in most rappers songs before the Tszyu debacle.
Roy Jones until he decided to fight Tarver.
Pavlik- Damn Hopkins and personnel demons.
Ibeabuchi before he went nuts
Bojado
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Going a little further back, I'd say David Tua. Many had him pegged as the second coming of Mike Tyson. But somewhere along the line his career just flattened out and the mystique was gone.
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David Tua is always in the frame for these. Smashed his way to the front of the queue then drifted into obesity and the role of also ran.
Oops... hadn't seen your post. But yeah I agree.
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Ricardo Mayorga had a better career than what was expected of him, he didn't become a big name until the Lewis fights, and it wasn't cause of his boxing skills, he wasn't expected to beat Forrest and did so twice so over achieved
Riddick Bowe is another example of an under achiever, was touted as being the next big long time king of the HW division and imploded
Juanma does fall into the category but in no way would I call him a small Kermit Cintron seeing how he accomplished more and has a better resume, his prime was just a very short one, and he lacked the discipline in and out of the ring to have a long career
Gamboa is making his way into this category with his inactivity and looking flat as of late, as does Guzman
It's funny how as irrelevant as Kermit Cintron is today (and he's pretty fucking irrelevant) he seems to have more left than Lopez. Lopez has never recovered from his first 2 losses. Salido ruined him
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Violent Demise
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ElTerribleMorales
Ricardo Mayorga had a better career than what was expected of him, he didn't become a big name until the Lewis fights, and it wasn't cause of his boxing skills, he wasn't expected to beat Forrest and did so twice so over achieved
Riddick Bowe is another example of an under achiever, was touted as being the next big long time king of the HW division and imploded
Juanma does fall into the category but in no way would I call him a small Kermit Cintron seeing how he accomplished more and has a better resume, his prime was just a very short one, and he lacked the discipline in and out of the ring to have a long career
Gamboa is making his way into this category with his inactivity and looking flat as of late, as does Guzman
It's funny how as irrelevant as Kermit Cintron is today (and he's pretty fucking irrelevant) he seems to have more left than Lopez. Lopez has never recovered from his first 2 losses. Salido ruined him
Kermit Cintron looked like shit the last time out, and despite having 3 TKO losses he never took the amount of damage that Lopez took in many of his fights not only the Salido fights, once Lopez abandoned his boxing skills and relied only on his power he started taking too much punishment to get the win, it wasn't just due to two fights, that's like saying that Collazo took away Hatton's chin, seeing how his punch resistance was shit in every fight following that
and lets remember that the irrelevant joke that is Cintron still managed to school Alfredo Angulo
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David Reid another good Olympian... eventually ruined by his droopy eye and then Trinidad . fighters that could have done better but i don't know if it would change his careers (because of fatal flaws/traits) would be guys like: Luis Collazo Juan Diaz (Technically The Jury is still out on him till he finishes up) Derrick Gainer maybe, Mo Harris...
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Meldrick Taylor. The JCC fight sapped a lot out of him.
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Lamar Parks.
Shame what happened to him. I think ha falls into the went as far as he would have regardless like a few others mentioned though. He was being hurt by a couple guys and was in serious trouble with Daniel something. I remember when he dropped out at last minute in a shot at McClellans title and thought he dodged a disaster!! Then ya heard why and that career was a wrap.
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Violent Demise
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Britkid
Roy Jones Jr should of been up there with Robinson IMO...
A few more that come to mind:
Jemal Hinton
Ricky Womack
Ginger Tshabalala
Harry Simon
Spencer Oliver
Jawaid Khaliq
Damn. Having seen some of those names in a long time. Womack is a classic case of wasted talent. Holyfield use to speak highly of him. Allah told Hinton he shouldn't fight any more. And he never did again. Oliver got ruined by a fighter from the Ukraine. Simon is actually still fighting. Khaliq is a trainer. I have no idea what ever became of Ginger Tshabalala
Sadly, he was murdered.
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J_Undisputed
David Reid another good Olympian... eventually ruined by his droopy eye and then Trinidad . fighters that could have done better but i don't know if it would change his careers (because of fatal flaws/traits) would be guys like: Luis Collazo Juan Diaz (Technically The Jury is still out on him till he finishes up) Derrick Gainer maybe, Mo Harris...
Reid went into his pro career already with the handicap Daniel Santos was the one who gave Reid the droopy eye as amateurs after that it was only a ticking time bomb, Collazo was just too dam inactive and being screwed against Hatton and Berto didn't help, Juan Diaz accomplished a bit and has had a good career, just a short lived one, he unified titles and had solid wins JM Cotto, Diaz and Freitas, then upset against Campbell and beat twice (first fight was bullshit) by Malignaggi and JMM
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Glenwood the real beast Brown had a good left hook.