So why is Floyd allowed to hand pick his opponents? Fair..?

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Originally Posted by Gandalf

It isn't a gun held at head situation, but it is handpicked and therefore bound to be criticised. Mayweather has picked and picked and waited or else timed his opponents at 140 and above. It is smaller men moving up, or unknown men, or men with almost double digit losses, or else as last weekend, a bigger man with a flimsy record who hasn't proven shit.

Mayweather is smoke and mirrors in terms of opposition and it isn't a crime to say as much. He is seemingly an impeccable boxer, so it is just a shame that he is so obsessed with the money and the 0, to ever put it completely on the line.

People then say, well what do you suggest? My answer to that is simple. I want to see him against someone with heart, with skills, with speed. Currently it is plodder after plodder and carefully, carefully chosen. Bradley, Pacquiao, or Golovkin at 154, are obvious fights to make.

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Just cannot agree with you, Sir, would you really call Cotto, Oscar, Mosley, Guerrero, Canelo, Marquez, Hatton or Judah plodders? Floyd may have made them look like they are plodders but every body else they fight thinks they're pretty damn good.
I'm getting pissed, I don't even like Floyd but I find myself defending him because he makes everyone else look bad. Not really pissed, just a little irritated.

I used to hate Floyd.
I used to hate Hopkins.

I lament at times, the Gans or Robinsons of the world along with the likes of Archie Moore and Kid Azteca.

It's only through hindsight that I realize just how special those two men are in my time.

I dont have to like them. Its not even relevant.

There was no need for Floyd to fight Canelo at 152lb, he now looks a dick to ask for that when he would have won at the normal limit 154lb.

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Originally Posted by Master

There was no need for Floyd to fight Canelo at 152lb, he now looks a dick to ask for that when he would have won at the normal limit 154lb.

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I'm not sure why this is such a sticking point as it would have not made any difference.

Dam Ray Leonard got away with getting Lalonde down to 168 to defend his 175 title and the new 168 title up for grabs at the same time.

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Originally Posted by IamInuit

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Originally Posted by Master

There was no need for Floyd to fight Canelo at 152lb, he now looks a dick to ask for that when he would have won at the normal limit 154lb.

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I'm not sure why this is such a sticking point as it would have not made any difference.

Dam Ray Leonard got away with getting Lalonde down to 168 to defend his 175 title and the new 168 title up for grabs at the same time.

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No he did not, Dundee left him before Lalonde, he did not want to take part in this "sparring"

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Originally Posted by NVSemin

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Originally Posted by IamInuit

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Originally Posted by Master

There was no need for Floyd to fight Canelo at 152lb, he now looks a dick to ask for that when he would have won at the normal limit 154lb.

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I'm not sure why this is such a sticking point as it would have not made any difference.

Dam Ray Leonard got away with getting Lalonde down to 168 to defend his 175 title and the new 168 title up for grabs at the same time.

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No he did not, Dundee left him before Lalonde, he did not want to take part in this "sparring"

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No he did not what. Lalonde melted down to 168 from 175 to defend his title with Leonard. That is a fact. They also put the 168 title on the line to give it the appearance of legitimacy. That is also a fact.

:vd: I can see why you are so devout, you have the deductive powers of a slug.

Just to reiterate. . Floyd does hand pick his opponents these days and is very cute on which weight they meet him at.
I think Khan would give him a real test and maybe the only fighter who beats him for speed.
Infact I think Khan poses the biggest threat to him ;-)

Khan would make it a fun fight to watch for a few rounds, that's it. He has no chance at all of actually winning. Floyd always pursues the highest possible payday, which may have not always correlated with the biggest threats but anyone would do the same.

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Originally Posted by smashup

Just to reiterate. . Floyd does hand pick his opponents these days and is very cute on which weight they meet him at.
I think Khan would give him a real test and maybe the only fighter who beats him for speed.
Infact I think Khan poses the biggest threat to him ;-)

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That is simply not correct. Who did he hand pick and whats cute about the weight he meets them at? If you want to get technical Ray Robinson hand picked his opponents.

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Originally Posted by p4pking

Khan would make it a fun fight to watch for a few rounds, that's it. He has no chance at all of actually winning. Floyd always pursues the highest possible payday, which may have not always correlated with the biggest threats but anyone would do the same.

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I think it would be fun all the way and not just few rounds , when was the last time we saw Floyd more than matched for speed ;-)
Khan would definitely pose problems and Floyd would have to work every second of every round.
Floyd hardly had to get out of 2nd gear against Canelo and was puffing away between the latter rounds so his age could be a huge factor against someone like Khan.
Not suggesting Khan would win but for me its a very very tough night for Floyd ;-)

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Originally Posted by Gandalf

It isn't a gun held at head situation, but it is handpicked and therefore bound to be criticised. Mayweather has picked and picked and waited or else timed his opponents at 140 and above. It is smaller men moving up, or unknown men, or men with almost double digit losses, or else as last weekend, a bigger man with a flimsy record who hasn't proven shit.

Mayweather is smoke and mirrors in terms of opposition and it isn't a crime to say as much. He is seemingly an impeccable boxer, so it is just a shame that he is so obsessed with the money and the 0, to ever put it completely on the line.

People then say, well what do you suggest? My answer to that is simple. I want to see him against someone with heart, with skills, with speed. Currently it is plodder after plodder and carefully, carefully chosen. Bradley, Pacquiao, or Golovkin at 154, are obvious fights to make.

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Miles, you realize you're about the only type of person "bound to criticize" the guys he has been fighting. Bradley at 147, you actually think thats a bigger challenge than Canelo was? I'm sure you wouldn't have personally made any mention of the fact Bradley was clobbered all over the ring by an average fighter last time out, if Floyd had signed to fight him instead, right? Or the fact that we last saw Pacquiao getting peeled off the canvas, what does that matter right.
You don't like Mayweather and that's fine, neither do I. But is it really so difficult to be objective about anything?

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I Think anyone who loves the sport wants to see him seriously tested before he retires, there are fighters who would test him but will he chose to fight them in his remaining fights?
I doubt it after reading this...
I said when last weeks fight was made that Canelo was just Hype and would be easily beaten and he was, its a Shame because Mayweather could go down as one of the greatest ever if he decides to give the public what they really wanna see

Y! SPORTS

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Originally Posted by beenKOed

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Originally Posted by Gandalf

It isn't a gun held at head situation, but it is handpicked and therefore bound to be criticised. Mayweather has picked and picked and waited or else timed his opponents at 140 and above. It is smaller men moving up, or unknown men, or men with almost double digit losses, or else as last weekend, a bigger man with a flimsy record who hasn't proven shit.

Mayweather is smoke and mirrors in terms of opposition and it isn't a crime to say as much. He is seemingly an impeccable boxer, so it is just a shame that he is so obsessed with the money and the 0, to ever put it completely on the line.

People then say, well what do you suggest? My answer to that is simple. I want to see him against someone with heart, with skills, with speed. Currently it is plodder after plodder and carefully, carefully chosen. Bradley, Pacquiao, or Golovkin at 154, are obvious fights to make.

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Just cannot agree with you, Sir, would you really call Cotto, Oscar, Mosley, Guerrero, Canelo, Marquez, Hatton or Judah plodders? Floyd may have made them look like they are plodders but every body else they fight thinks they're pretty damn good.
I'm getting pissed, I don't even like Floyd but I find myself defending him because he makes everyone else look bad. Not really pissed, just a little irritated.

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Judah is not a plodder, but he is not an aggressive fighter either. Hatton is not a plodder and gave Floyd a great fight. Oscar is an allround boxer, he did okay too. However, the rest are largely plodders and I include Marquez in that too as he looked like a plodder at the weight being far too small. Also you are missing many other fights at 140 and up. Baldomir was king plodder.

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Originally Posted by Master

There was no need for Floyd to fight Canelo at 152lb, he now looks a dick to ask for that when he would have won at the normal limit 154lb.

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Picky, picky, picky you are the pickiest!

I think the people pick his opponents for him, whoever we think might beat him, he fights. How can he get away with this? everyone makes a huge payday when they fight Floyd plus he keeps kicking the shit out of our choices.
We don't seem to learn and immediately start hyping his next victim. It's funny in a way, we do most of the work for him, all he does is train, fight, give us the finger and collect the money.
The good news is that, if he keeps fighting long enough he will lose. Won't he? LOL