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Wow, Jesus fuckin Christ :o !Quote:
Originally Posted by VictorCharlie
But you struggle to comprehend basic English. What I actually said was that the chance of God existing, certainly in the way defined over the past 2000 years, is likely 99.9% gibberish. Now I don't disagree that science will tell us more, but it has nothing to do with God as defined by religious man.Quote:
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Originally Posted by GandalfWhy is it misguided or shallow? Saying one only likes hot chicks is shallow, arguing that God doesn't exist is merely following all the available evidence. How is that misguided or shallow? Only someone who believes in something inherently illogical could suggest such a thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
But you are arguing that the religious God does not exist or one that models him/it/herself after us. The one in religious text. That is fine but it does not logically follow that therefore there is nothing. Even Einstein said that some day Physics would discover God. So in that sense to dismiss all possibilities is shallow.
Dismissing God based upon evidence is not shallow as there is zero evidence to support the claims that an all governing God with the power to starve, kill, and condemn exists. Now that doesn't mean that it is 100% no chance of existence, but to rely on 0.1% or less is in itself pretty shallow.
Isreal and the entire nation of Isreal or JewsQuote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
See, that is a silly argument as history has shown the Jews to be one of the most persecuted and tortured of people. If God existed then he deserted the people of Israel again and again and it wasn't until an act of mass genocide in the 20th century that HUMANITY decided to create the modern state of Israel. Humanity attempted to wipe out a group of people and humanity then decided to create a state.Quote:
Originally Posted by NVSeminIsreal and the entire nation of Isreal or JewsQuote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
God didn't do that, it was people. Just as it was people who constructed The Bible. Nobody can provide any evidence to validate the attention given to the concept of God as defined by religious scripture. Each and every time the Church has been shown to be either making things up or else just plain wrong.
Speaking of physics "from nothing, nothing derives" I dont know what that something is and am not arrogant enough to make any absolute conclusions on something I cant even comprehend. To do so in one way or the other makes me shallow and misguided.
Yes
Wait, is that a dudeQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliWow, Jesus fuckin Christ :o !Quote:
Originally Posted by VictorCharlie
I was raised a catholic , and as soon as I could ( age 15 ) I binned it , so my answer is NO I do not believe in any higher power / god or otherwise.
I guess there is an infinitely small chance that there is, but it is such a small chance. that without 'faith' you cannot have 'belief'. I do not have faith...
But what surprises me most is that the evidence put forward by science would suggest we are even more amazing than being a creation of a 'God'.
Dark matter like a living ocean of everything is probably the best we can do from our little material platform within it all.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
Most of great men of science were either Jews or believers by the wayQuote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
Seems to be you are the one struggling w/basic English. Spicoli didn't say anything about a "god" defined over the past 2000 years. In fact I'd say his post suggested a lack of definition. I'd say the evidence that the Universe is expanding and therefore had a definitive starting point suggests a catalyst to the Universe that we currently and more than likely never will be able to comprehend. I don't really like using the term "god" to describe this ambiguous and infinite concept but I don't begrudge others that do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
No, but for some eye candy I don't even care.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliWait, is that a dudeQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliWow, Jesus fuckin Christ :o !Quote:
Originally Posted by VictorCharlie
Believing in God!!!!!!!! many funereal services say they are none religious, in the Crematorium
but they seem to have religious content, they have Hymns and prays, some people are just
hedging there bets.;)
That is simply not true. Science deals in empirical evidence. There is no room for belief for its own sake. That might be its problem. No room for the unknown. The arrogance of our species is not only obvious by our wanted destruction of this planet but it is also present in our own minds.Quote:
Originally Posted by NVSeminMost of great men of science were either Jews or believers by the wayQuote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
The fact of the matter is, we dont know How can we? Big bang theories dont prove nothing else intelligent exists anymore then evolution does. That's the beauty and the mystery.