Re: If Lennox Lewis had rematched Vitali Klitschko.........
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El Kabong
Vital I never looked sharper than he did immediately after the Lewis fight. Johnson, Sanders, Williams...not on Lennox's level but I think Old Lennox would have been beaten up.
Lennox is your GOAT? There's only 1 GOAT and his name is Joe Louis!
No there was someone even greater than Joe Louis and he is Muhammad Ali.
Re: If Lennox Lewis had rematched Vitali Klitschko.........
You know I'm surprised some Klitschko fanatic hasn't come up with the crazy idea Lennox used an old pro wrastlin trick to slice up Vitali's face. :rolleyes: You know the one where they hide a razor blade. LOL
Well they've come up with just about everything else:D
Re: If Lennox Lewis had rematched Vitali Klitschko.........
I think Lewis would have won again, he fought Vitali as a change of opponent when he was training for Johnson, fought him on even terms & was starting to take over
A full prepared Lewis stops Vitali in a quick return imo
Re: If Lennox Lewis had rematched Vitali Klitschko.........
The old TKO6 thing will never end!! haha =) Must have been an awesome event!
Anyway you guys above...
I have it Muhammad Ali and Joe Louis are together not fit enough to carry either of Vitali's or Lennox's jockstraps! LOL
To ancient, too small, no power, lacking in defence, never tested against the "dreadnought class" of opponents that Lenny and Vits were.
Re: If Lennox Lewis had rematched Vitali Klitschko.........
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Max Power
The old TKO6 thing will never end!! haha =) Must have been an awesome event!
Anyway you guys above...
I have it Muhammad Ali and Joe Louis are together not fit enough to carry either of Vitali's or Lennox's jockstraps! LOL
To ancient, too small, no power, lacking in defence, never tested against the "dreadnought class" of opponents that Lenny and Vits were.
dreadnought class = Valuev :)
Re: If Lennox Lewis had rematched Vitali Klitschko.........
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dreadnought class = Valuev
Honestly, I think Ali would have a shot at UD'ing Valuev and Joe Louis even. But I think the sheer size of Sugar Nick will pose atleast some difficulty for the all American heroes :)
I would compare Lewis and Klits "opponents" to Ali and Louis's opponents.
I wonder if Kirk Johnson would sweat it over a fight with world class Henry Cooper? I wonder if David Haye would struggle to beat the elusive Sonny Liston? Or if the diminutive Michael Grant would have a panic attack at the sight of the hulking Joe Frazier! See what I mean!
Re: If Lennox Lewis had rematched Vitali Klitschko.........
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Max Power
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dreadnought class = Valuev
Honestly, I think Ali would have a shot at UD'ing Valuev and Joe Louis even. But I think the sheer size of Sugar Nick will pose atleast some difficulty for the all American heroes :)
I would compare Lewis and Klits "opponents" to Ali and Louis's opponents.
I wonder if Kirk Johnson would sweat it over a fight with world class Henry Cooper? I wonder if David Haye would struggle to beat the elusive Sonny Liston? Or if the diminutive Michael Grant would have a panic attack at the sight of the hulking Joe Frazier! See what I mean!
Grant would piss his pants fighting Fraiser. Joe would not leave his chest and knock him out with a left hook.
Re: If Lennox Lewis had rematched Vitali Klitschko.........
Powder puff fisted Joe Frazier, with a 40 odd percent knockout ratio over genuine heavyweights is going to knock out 250lb 6'7" mountain of muscle Michael Grant?
Glass jawed Joe Frazier is going to hang around the chest of freight train punching Michael Grant?
The same Joe Frazier that was absolutely wasted by Foreman and had 15 rounds of continuously landing that left hook against Muhammad Ali, a much smaller opponent than Grant and could not knock him out?
The thought of Joe Frazier co-existing in an era of super-heavyweight punchers?
That is a VERY BOLD and fantastic assertion Mr. Master! ;D
Re: If Lennox Lewis had rematched Vitali Klitschko.........
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El Kabong
For everyone that wants to pull the Lennox Lewis "Look at the state of his face" defense :rolleyes: I might remind you all that Quarry got a rematch with Ali when their first fight was stopped by cuts. If Ali was a good enough sport to do it why not Lennox?
....because Lennox knew his time was up. Yeah Lennox could have gotten better prepared but so could Vitali because he was set to fight Cedric Boswell. Yeah we all hear about how Lewis was supposed to fight Kirk Johnson which was a LAUGHABLE match to begin with but Vitali wasn't training to fight Lennox but he jumped in and gave Lennox a run for his money and Lennox is lucky as hell that cut happened because he was GASSED. Anyone who looks at the fight objectively knows that.
uhhh, gee.........could it be that Ali was 30 years old and still relatively young? :vd:
Re: If Lennox Lewis had rematched Vitali Klitschko.........
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imp
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
Vital I never looked sharper than he did immediately after the Lewis fight. Johnson, Sanders, Williams...not on Lennox's level but I think Old Lennox would have been beaten up.
Lennox is your GOAT? There's only 1 GOAT and his name is Joe Louis!
I dont even think joe louis is even in my top 5.
Ali
Johnson
Tyson
Lewis
Holmes
how can you put Tyson ahead of Louis???!!! what the ffffffffff
Re: If Lennox Lewis had rematched Vitali Klitschko.........
Vitali would have won, no way can Lennox keep up with Vitalis work rate, he dosnt have the same cardio level, and whats worse for Lennox is his power is nulified by Vitalis iron jaw, so he has barely any chance at all and was lucky to get that cut.
Also any skill Lennox had over Vitali (both skillful not sure who has teh advantage tehre) again is a mute point because hes gonna get out enduranced.
Also Lennox has to work extra hard because he didnt have the range advantage he is used to.
Vitali was very VERY unlucky to loose that.
Lennox and all the boxing experts know Vitali is the better man.
Re: If Lennox Lewis had rematched Vitali Klitschko.........
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Max Power
Powder puff fisted Joe Frazier, with a 40 odd percent knockout ratio over genuine heavyweights is going to knock out 250lb 6'7" mountain of muscle Michael Grant?
Glass jawed Joe Frazier is going to hang around the chest of freight train punching Michael Grant?
The same Joe Frazier that was absolutely wasted by Foreman and had 15 rounds of continuously landing that left hook against Muhammad Ali, a much smaller opponent than Grant and could not knock him out?
The thought of Joe Frazier co-existing in an era of super-heavyweight punchers?
That is a VERY BOLD and fantastic assertion Mr. Master! ;D
Joe frazier is one of the most overrated heavies.. I never questioned his hof status but an atg he is not.
Both klits would toy with him and knock him out in 5 rounds or less..