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That was sooo far from a boring fight. u haters continue to say that ward cheat and cheats, show me the examples. rodriquez was holding more than ward, but ward is the bad guy?
Ward put on a masterclass plain and simple. Yall haters seem to forget that rod had a husge weight advantage, without that he would have been koed.
Ward was throwing vicious body head combos....and yall say he is boring......wtf
Forget about that fight for a moment. This is what his own promoter Goossen said afterward;
Tyson threw out the possibility of a fight with Stevenson or Kovalev saying;Quote:
Ward needs someone “fresh and dangerous.”
Wards reply;Quote:
“They could fight at 170,” he said. “Ward goes up two, they come down five. Why not?”
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p...lm_4cf202e.gifQuote:
“I’m at a stage of my career that it’s – whatever,” he said at the post-fight press conference, adding that he’d love to take on Julio Cesar Chavez Jr., in a pay-per-view fight.
Followed by;
Seriously?Quote:
“I’m working on my exit strategy right now,”
Wards not a fighter at heart. A technician yes, a boxer yes, not not a fighter. It shows in his words, his style and to his dismay, his paycheck. To address a few points already made in this thread...
Mayweather and his flamboyancy aren't ruining it for ward.Ward is ruining it for ward. Floyd fights oversized guys at the top of their division and nullifies them with skill, reflexes and some head games and recently catch weights. Roy jones was a safety first fighter too that did also took on bigger guys. To see a guy who is so far skilled above their competition, that they can afford some eccentric behavior will draw viewers. To see a guy like ward, who was still light years above the flailing rodriguez, still have to resort to holding and arm bars is less than impressive. Its a byproduct of how he fights but it doesn't win him any style points.
I found it rather funny that the fight was so sloppy in the first few rounds, that the ref decided to make it the Jack reiss show. Personally, rodriguez going crazy on ward and the ref was one of the few things that kept me awake. Ward was in control and was landing more cleanly and impressively after Rodriguez further stopped giving a crap about winning or even fighting.
As for ward needing someone fresh and dangerous. Its true, bit the prerequisite is that they not be stronger and bigger than ward as that hurts his chances of success on the inside and tying his opponents up. Ward looked a lot better later in the fight when rodriguez's energy and hopes dropped and rodriguez wasn't as wild on the inside. Ward's still feels its everyone else that has to make concessions.. come to his weight, fight for his belts, wait till he suggests drug testing etc. He's believing his own hype at this point. His aspirations to fight a lesser skilled, bloated and almost sure to be weight drained chavez is ward picking the easiest fight for the biggest money and is pretty transparent. His "exit strategy" will be the same despite the fact that half of the boxing fans not believing he's actually arrived yet.
some of you people are so ridiculous. for one, it was a great fight. what more did you want from ward? he threw a lot of punches and landed a lot. does he need to intentionally get hit so that it can be more exciting? also, rodriguez was being very dirty by grabbing ward and pushing him against the ropes. grabbing is one thing but you cant bull rush somebody. one more thing, maybe some of you dont know but hitting during a clinch is 100% legal! thats why refs will say fight out of the clinch. i actually think that ward is very smart for doing it. most fighters dont do that. they clinch and wait for the ref to break them up. so if the ref doesnt break you up, you can keep on swinging.
i feel like the hate for ward has become higher than the hate for mayweather. everybody always talked about how mayweather ducks everybody and has never fought anybody good. and now everybody says that mayweather has fought top quality opponents and has even gone up in weight to do it just to discredit ward. just enjoy a great fighter while he is still here. i dont understand people who like boxing that cant enjoy a master in the ring like ward or mayweather. if that were the case, i wouldnt even watch boxing. yes, i do like the toe to toe fights, but i also love watching great fighters outclass their opponent.
Ward is an excellent fighter inside and out. He's just vanilla though. Doesn't have that X factor.
im not sure what the x factor is supposed to be. he is easily beating everybody so if he doesnt have the x factor, he probably doesnt need it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
Someone compared him to Mayweather but he will never look untouchable. He will always have to scrap and maul his way past opponents and then genuine tough world class fighters he faces that he doesn't cut will have him looking vulnerable in the last few rounds when he tires.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncherim not sure what the x factor is supposed to be. he is easily beating everybody so if he doesnt have the x factor, he probably doesnt need it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
well he has looked untouchable so far so unless there is evidence to back up your claim, he is on the elite level.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossSomeone compared him to Mayweather but he will never look untouchable. He will always have to scrap and maul his way past opponents and then genuine tough world class fighters he faces that he doesn't cut will have him looking vulnerable in the last few rounds when he tires.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncherim not sure what the x factor is supposed to be. he is easily beating everybody so if he doesnt have the x factor, he probably doesnt need it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
But the evidence does not support that and I can see the Mayweather comparison. He rarely misses and rarely gets caught clean. He also completely discourages his opponents with his sharp countering. Rodriguez's output dropped like a boat anchor. Not sure I understand the "world class" opponents comment. That is who he is fighting and he's making them look pretty pedestrian.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossSomeone compared him to Mayweather but he will never look untouchable. He will always have to scrap and maul his way past opponents and then genuine tough world class fighters he faces that he doesn't cut will have him looking vulnerable in the last few rounds when he tires.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncherim not sure what the x factor is supposed to be. he is easily beating everybody so if he doesnt have the x factor, he probably doesnt need it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
Btw I have not seen a jack hammer jab like he has since Lennox Lewis. Kept looking to see where his feet were when he threw it.
What I find interesting about Ward is that with all his technical prowess, he's also just as comfortable in the gutter and can mud it out with the best of them. That must come to a shock to his opponents who believe that taking him there is their only shot at winning.
The first two rounds were pathetic then Ward looked superb. It was like watching Floyd whitewash an opponent, not a great fight but impressive skill backed up by pure dominance.
High-five to the ref for threatening to hurt them where it matters most too - their dosh. That soon sorted the cunts out
I thought the fight was relatively entertaining. Ward's style isn't for everyone. He hits and holds a lot, but he does bring action to the ring, if that makes sense. If Ward had more pop in his punches, his entertainment value would increase a lot.
Perhaps people expected more risk-taking out of Ward because Rodriguez was deemed to be a much inferior opponent. However, any way you cut it, Ward dominated.
With regard to the comparisons with Mayweather's record, as I said earlier in the thread, Ward has arguably beat better competition than Mayweather has over the last few years. I don't think Ortiz, Cotto, Guerrero, Canelo are as tough a schedule as Kessler, Froch, Bika, Dawson, and Rodiguez. Kessler and Froch were lower end p4p guys and Bika was tough at that stage of his career. Now, you may say Mayweather has done it with more style, but his competition hasn't been as high in my opinion.
Whos to say floyds opponents wouldnt beat ward opponents in a same weight fantasy island world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
Shall we say ward opponents are better than RJ opponents during his reign?
Who else shall we bring up?
How about the undefeated calzaghes opponents?!
Ward is a class act and well deserving of the p4p no.2 position.
He has a different style thats not great to watch but he has the X FACTOR as he keeps winning.
And thats all that counts.
What do I WANT,!!! I want to be entertained thats what perhaps you may think I have
no taste, but I can't be wrong Ward can't draw fly's yes he wins.
I would rather watch Miles V Lyle, fighting at dawn with handbags.;D
How could Ward entertain you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando