Terry Norris " Mayweather with all that slapping and running "

There have ALWAYS been protected fighters, but not to the extent that it's done now.
The result is some undeveloped fighters fighting for titles.
When the new Champ finally gets in deep against a serious opponent, they don't have the answers, they don't know how to adjust, they don't have the tools in their toolkit. That stuff used to be worked out while a guy was developing. It's why old, multi-dimensional dudes who came up the old way like Hopkins and Juan Manuel Marquez can outslick and out-think some of these current young, prime guys even though Hopkins and Marquez are way past their physical best...[/QUOTE]

If your theory were true all the old timers could still compete, not just Marquez and Hopkins. Hopkins and Marquez are smarter through experience but the are exceptions because they are exceptional.

To add further your point make no sense when discussing Floyd in the protected age, he was a champ in less than two years. He wasn't slow played, he was thrown into the fire.

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Terry Norris, Mike McCallum and Tommy Hearns would have destroyed Floyd at light middle, no one can argue different. These fighters were greats but Floyd is not a natural light middle so there is no shame in saying he would lose to them.

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I wouldn't go as far as saying they would DESTROY Floyd. Floyd is still a great, effective fighter at 154.

I think Floyd beats Terry Norris at 154. Terry was good but I don't think he was as good as a lot of people think he was.

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At his best he was an efficient machine, he would beat Floyd like he beat Meldrick Taylor. Terry had his problems but Floyd would not punch hard enough to cause him any problems.

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At his best he was an efficient machine, he would beat Floyd like he beat Meldrick Taylor. Terry had his problems but Floyd would not punch hard enough to cause him any problems.

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Come on now, you can't compare Floyd to Meldrick Taylor. And Meldrick was shot after the JCC fight, when he fought Norris. Meldrick was a quick guy with lightning hands, but he didn't have nearly the ring generalship or boxing IQ that Floyd had, even in his prime. Totally different animals.

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There will be some more old boxers from back in whatever golden era bringing up so more stories on how they would whop floyd.

This time though it will be a few more weight classes higher and the boxer had blown all his money.

Alot of it is jealousy.
Has to be. The highest paid sports star on earth just made the next mexican sensation in a higher weight class look like an old sparring partner..

You know what back when i was around 29 years old and 210lbs i would whop floyd..yea, he would just be running and ducking with his stupid shoulder roll and his non accurate punching and ineffective check hooks..yea, he would be so easy!

Utter bollocks.

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And Norris giving his earned opine is different from Mayweather popping off about Robinson or Ali how? Or a Mayweather who literally just carried a Baldo ffs and heard the boos telling Leonard to his face 'you wouldn't even be in the top 10 of my era'...an utter bullshit thing to say. Norris has absolutely nothing to be 'jealous' of in a Mayweather and give Floyd enough time of beating up bebe mamas and tax issues, he'll do well to not blow his money also. Every generation will compare to past or present, its done in all sports. As for Alvarez, I'll spot you the Mexican part...now sensation? Eh.

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Come on spicoli,

Canelo was being built up as the next supastar and many people inc writers were saying that floyd was going to duck him!

Yep, i see what your saying about each era always has something to say about another era and its just banter. I understand that.

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At his best he was an efficient machine, he would beat Floyd like he beat Meldrick Taylor. Terry had his problems but Floyd would not punch hard enough to cause him any problems.

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Come on now, you can't compare Floyd to Meldrick Taylor. And Meldrick was shot after the JCC fight, when he fought Norris. Meldrick was a quick guy with lightning hands, but he didn't have nearly the ring generalship or boxing IQ that Floyd had, even in his prime. Totally different animals.

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Not that different, both excellent smaller fighters and exceptional hand speed.

People don't remember Norris as he was, they remember him as they saw him.

He looked like he had great power but he only had a 55% KO rate.

He looked impossible to deal with but people beat him regularly before his title days, during his title days and after his title days.

He looks like a big guy but he only had a 68" reach.


He has a shot against most anyone ever but he could also lose to many people throughout 154s history

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Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

People don't remember Norris as he was, they remember him as they saw him.

He looked like he had great power but he only had a 55% KO rate.

He looked impossible to deal with but people beat him regularly before his title days, during his title days and after his title days.

He looks like a big guy but he only had a 68" reach.


He has a shot against most anyone ever but he could also lose to many people throughout 154s history

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KO percentages are not always an indicator of one's punching power..

Kendall Holt and Lamont Peterson have the exact same KO percentage but do u really believe these guys have equal punching power? One can argue that holt is one of the hardest punchers at 140 as he has true one punch knockout power in both hands..

There are many factors to take into account when gauging someones power.. level of opposition, style of opponents they faced, or in holt's case for instance, he was plagued by shoulder problems for the longest time so he couldnt throw punches with full extension..

TerryNorris was a thunderous puncher plain and simple.

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Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita

I truly believe that Norris would have overwhelmed floyd with his furious combinations. I dont think floyd's bitch style of fighting would work on norris.. uh uh

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Bitch style?
YDKSABB

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I truly believe that Norris would have overwhelmed floyd with his furious combinations. I dont think floyd's bitch style of fighting would work on norris.. uh uh

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Bitch style?
YDKSABB

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Not a bitch literally like you but a safety first style I should say..

Ydksab? Lol that belongs on esb where little boys like u fit right in..

Ur boxing knowledge is extremely low adam unless u can prove me wrong.

KO percentages are not always an indicator of one's punching power..

Kendall Holt and Lamont Peterson have the exact same KO percentage but do u really believe these guys have equal punching power? One can argue that holt is one of the hardest punchers at 140 as he has true one punch knockout power in both hands..

There are many factors to take into account when gauging someones power.. level of opposition, style of opponents they faced, or in holt's case for instance, he was plagued by shoulder problems for the longest time so he couldnt throw punches with full extension..

TerryNorris was a thunderous puncher plain and simple.[/QUOTE]

Excuses. Truth is punching power is defined by your ability to deliver it. Only 55% of men fell.
I'm a Norris fan, always have been but I'm not going to pretend he was getting fools out of there with his power.

Norris couldn't hit?! 47 wins, 31 KOs.

Try tellin' Donald Curry or John The Beast Mugabi or Meldrick Taylor that Terry Norris wasn't a power puncher!

Not many guys get carried out on stretchers.

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Not that different, both excellent smaller fighters and exceptional hand speed.

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They ain't even close man, come on. Besides being black, having fast hands and boxing for a living.

You saying Terry Norris would be able to hit Mayweather like he could Meldrick Taylor? Meldrick was a fast dude who could box, but being from Philly he would just go out swinging and end up eating punches.

Norris had legit power. He was no Julian Jackson, but he wasn't a Pernell Whitaker either.

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Norris couldn't hit?! 47 wins, 31 KOs.

Try tellin' Donald Curry or John The Beast Mugabi or Meldrick Taylor that Terry Norris wasn't a power puncher!

Not many guys get carried out on stretchers.

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This is pretty simple to understand so I'm not sure why I'm saying it for a 3rd time. 55% KO rate. Power is only relevant to its effect on the fight. Similar to it not mattering if you have a bad chin if you don't get hit, it doesn't matter that you have great power if you don't set it up. So again, the fact is 55% KO. His speed defined him FAR more than his power

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here's some of the top guys:

Terry norris’ era. Circa 1991 to mid-1990s.
lightweight
miguel angel gonzalez
rafael ruelas
jorge paez
sharmba mitchell
joe gamache
oscar de la hoya
stevie johnston
shane mosley

light-welter
julio cesar chavez
pernell whitaker
hector camacho
kostya tszyu
frankie randall
charles murray
greg haugen

welter
james buddy mcgirt
meldrick taylor
simon brown
felix tito trinidad
maurice blocker
yory boy campas
ike quartey
oba carr

light-middle
terry norris
vinny pazienza
john david jackson
verno philips
vincent pettway
julio cesar vasquez
bronco mccart

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where the fuck is aaron pryor??????????? Wtf?????????????????????????????