It ain't on account of how dangerous Tyson Fury is I can tell you that much.Quote:
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It ain't on account of how dangerous Tyson Fury is I can tell you that much.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
i appreciate you rate fury @ross and with all the opinions about who rates who and who would beat who makes boxing a very intersting sport to talk aboutQuote:
Originally Posted by rossHe couldnt do it to an inexperienced 17 year old novice:scratchchin::vd:Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44i agree with most of what you are saying but price always has a chance against anyone, stamina or no stamina because he seems to hit so hardQuote:
Originally Posted by Tam SeddonI have to disagree here, Price vs Thompson 2 was poor performance from Price! He had him down heavily early in the fight, couldn't end the fight. He looked disheartened by that, and to call yourself a 12 round fighter and be tired after 3-4 rounds was really bad. If Price doesn't improve his stamina he has no chance vs either Chisora or Fury. Fury and Chisora are both 12 round fighters and have shown that before, both have the abilityto see out the full 12 rounds and still not be tired. If Price doesn't have that in his locker by the time he fights either one of these two, he will get knocked out again. Fury and Chisora can both take a shot as well, so I don't see them getting stopped early. And as I was saying before, the longer the fight goes it doesn't bode well for Price. My current opinion is that Price will get knocked out by both of them and Fury can call price a big stiff idiot when hes on the floor haha. No disrespect to Price there, I really like him as a fighter but he has a lot of work to doQuote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
id fancy chisora to test his stamina to the max, i think price could KO fury in a couple of rounds
Price will never have a win over any decent world class opponents.
I personally dont really rate fury that highly
and yes i know fury dropped price in the ams, and price pipped him over 3 rounds but i think things are very different now :)
Here is the deal with my support of Fury. I was pissed off reading how shit and rubbish he was when clearly he isnt or he wouldnt have beaten the fighters hes beaten.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44i appreciate you rate fury @ross and with all the opinions about who rates who and who would beat who makes boxing a very intersting sport to talk aboutQuote:
Originally Posted by rossHe couldnt do it to an inexperienced 17 year old novice:scratchchin::vd:Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44i agree with most of what you are saying but price always has a chance against anyone, stamina or no stamina because he seems to hit so hardQuote:
Originally Posted by Tam SeddonI have to disagree here, Price vs Thompson 2 was poor performance from Price! He had him down heavily early in the fight, couldn't end the fight. He looked disheartened by that, and to call yourself a 12 round fighter and be tired after 3-4 rounds was really bad. If Price doesn't improve his stamina he has no chance vs either Chisora or Fury. Fury and Chisora are both 12 round fighters and have shown that before, both have the abilityto see out the full 12 rounds and still not be tired. If Price doesn't have that in his locker by the time he fights either one of these two, he will get knocked out again. Fury and Chisora can both take a shot as well, so I don't see them getting stopped early. And as I was saying before, the longer the fight goes it doesn't bode well for Price. My current opinion is that Price will get knocked out by both of them and Fury can call price a big stiff idiot when hes on the floor haha. No disrespect to Price there, I really like him as a fighter but he has a lot of work to doQuote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
id fancy chisora to test his stamina to the max, i think price could KO fury in a couple of rounds
Price will never have a win over any decent world class opponents.
I personally dont really rate fury that highly
and yes i know fury dropped price in the ams, and price pipped him over 3 rounds but i think things are very different now :)
Right now I dont think hes the best in the division. I dont think he is a cert to beat everyone. We still will have no clearer idea even when hes beaten Cisora again as thats only going over old ground. I do think he improves on the last result and stops Chisora early and in fact, dont be surprised if Furys plans are yet again ruined by Chisora getting beaten in his next fight!
The only fighter I wouldnt bet on Fury against right now is Wlad and thats only because his progress has been stunted this past year by someone who cried "I'm a celebrity get me out of here!". All the others have major flaws like Fury does with his resistance. Pulev was dropped in his last fight and took 5 rounds to stop someone that Arreola did in one and looked mediocre against Thompson. Arreola is Arreola;D. Stiverne is lazy, easy to hit and needs an opponent on top of him to hit them and has already been stopped by Demetrice King, didn't try to beat him in a rematch, even Fury did that with McDermott! Adamek is tough and works hard and would give Fury a decent fight but wouldn't last.
He is much better than made out to be and will prove a lot of people wrong and Wlad is really there for the picking now for a young big fighter who throws lots of punches going by his last fight.
All the "Haye would have smashed him early" talk is bluffing. There are a lot of Haye fans that breathed a sigh of relief that their man didn't get in the ring with Fury because it would have gone pretty much the same way as the Cunningham fight and would have shown up Hayes career for the smoke and mirrors it was and also would have undermined Wlads performance against his most dangerous opponent;)
I don't see whats not to like. He cracks me up. He actually does want to fight and entertains. If he wasn't in the division it would be utter shit!
i like fury, adds a lot of excitement or at least interest to boxing as a wholeQuote:
Originally Posted by rossHere is the deal with my support of Fury. I was pissed off reading how shit and rubbish he was when clearly he isnt or he wouldnt have beaten the fighters hes beaten.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44i appreciate you rate fury @ross and with all the opinions about who rates who and who would beat who makes boxing a very intersting sport to talk aboutQuote:
Originally Posted by rossHe couldnt do it to an inexperienced 17 year old novice:scratchchin::vd:Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44i agree with most of what you are saying but price always has a chance against anyone, stamina or no stamina because he seems to hit so hardQuote:
Originally Posted by Tam SeddonI have to disagree here, Price vs Thompson 2 was poor performance from Price! He had him down heavily early in the fight, couldn't end the fight. He looked disheartened by that, and to call yourself a 12 round fighter and be tired after 3-4 rounds was really bad. If Price doesn't improve his stamina he has no chance vs either Chisora or Fury. Fury and Chisora are both 12 round fighters and have shown that before, both have the abilityto see out the full 12 rounds and still not be tired. If Price doesn't have that in his locker by the time he fights either one of these two, he will get knocked out again. Fury and Chisora can both take a shot as well, so I don't see them getting stopped early. And as I was saying before, the longer the fight goes it doesn't bode well for Price. My current opinion is that Price will get knocked out by both of them and Fury can call price a big stiff idiot when hes on the floor haha. No disrespect to Price there, I really like him as a fighter but he has a lot of work to doQuote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
id fancy chisora to test his stamina to the max, i think price could KO fury in a couple of rounds
Price will never have a win over any decent world class opponents.
I personally dont really rate fury that highly
and yes i know fury dropped price in the ams, and price pipped him over 3 rounds but i think things are very different now :)
Right now I dont think hes the best in the division. I dont think he is a cert to beat everyone. We still will have no clearer idea even when hes beaten Cisora again as thats only going over old ground. I do think he improves on the last result and stops Chisora early and in fact, dont be surprised if Furys plans are yet again ruined by Chisora getting beaten in his next fight!
The only fighter I wouldnt bet on Fury against right now is Wlad and thats only because his progress has been stunted this past year by someone who cried "I'm a celebrity get me out of here!". All the others have major flaws like Fury does with his resistance. Pulev was dropped in his last fight and took 5 rounds to stop someone that Arreola did in one and looked mediocre against Thompson. Arreola is Arreola;D. Stiverne is lazy, easy to hit and needs an opponent on top of him to hit them and has already been stopped by Demetrice King, didn't try to beat him in a rematch, even Fury did that with McDermott! Adamek is tough and works hard and would give Fury a decent fight but wouldn't last.
He is much better than made out to be and will prove a lot of people wrong and Wlad is really there for the picking now for a young big fighter who throws lots of punches going by his last fight.
All the "Haye would have smashed him early" talk is bluffing. There are a lot of Haye fans that breathed a sigh of relief that their man didn't get in the ring with Fury because it would have gone pretty much the same way as the Cunningham fight and would have shown up Hayes career for the smoke and mirrors it was and also would have undermined Wlads performance against his most dangerous opponent;)
I don't see whats not to like. He cracks me up. He actually does want to fight and entertains. If he wasn't in the division it would be utter shit!
ive been a boxing fan for a long time and i am well in support of british fighters
i just dont think fury is that good, i dont think he has really had a great win yet, and i dont think he has looked great winning the fights he has, his best wins are perhaps cunningham and chisora?
and dont get me wrong he won virtually every round against chiz and an in shape chizora may have only closed the gap rather than (as is a common opinion) won the fight
i do think haye would have stopped him in a few rounds tho
Looks like Tysons next fight miht be against Dominick Guinn?
Dominick Guinn?? Jeez, could he at least fight someone in the top 50?
They wanted someone who was durable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Well he won't be stopping "The Southern Disaster" I know that for certainQuote:
Originally Posted by ross
Thats why they want him I spose. So Tyson gets rounds in.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongWell he won't be stopping "The Southern Disaster" I know that for certainQuote:
Originally Posted by ross
After the Haye messing about he just needs rounds and get back to being an active fighter again.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossThats why they want him I spose. So Tyson gets rounds in.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongWell he won't be stopping "The Southern Disaster" I know that for certainQuote:
Originally Posted by ross
Guinn is the kind of fighter Deontay Wilder or Amir Mansour should be fighting. Tyson Fury needs to fight CONTENDERS.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
And he will be!Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongGuinn is the kind of fighter Deontay Wilder or Amir Mansour should be fighting. Tyson Fury needs to fight CONTENDERS.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
He has had a forced absence.
Pulev is struggling against journeymen, getting dropped, extended and losing rounds. Wilder is fighting people Tyson was when he had half the amount of Wilders bouts. Adamek just fought Guinn but apparently its only Tyson Fury who should be fighting contenders!
If you hadnt realised..... He just had Wlads most dangerous opponent run from him twice;D
How can you criticise a contender for signing to fight Wlads most dangerous opponent?
Signing to fight him , but he avoided getting knocked out by Haye cancelling.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossAnd he will be!Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongGuinn is the kind of fighter Deontay Wilder or Amir Mansour should be fighting. Tyson Fury needs to fight CONTENDERS.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
He has had a forced absence.
Pulev is struggling against journeymen, getting dropped, extended and losing rounds. Wilder is fighting people Tyson was when he had half the amount of Wilders bouts. Adamek just fought Guinn but apparently its only Tyson Fury who should be fighting contenders!
If you hadnt realised..... He just had Wlads most dangerous opponent run from him twice;D
How can you criticise a contender for signing to fight Wlads most dangerous opponent?
Fury has a glass jaw and no power accept it.
Frank Bruno was considered to have a weak chin at top level , well he had a granite chin compared to fury , oh and of course Frank had power.
Whether Fury has a glass jaw or no punch power is irrelevant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlSigning to fight him , but he avoided getting knocked out by Haye cancelling.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossAnd he will be!Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongGuinn is the kind of fighter Deontay Wilder or Amir Mansour should be fighting. Tyson Fury needs to fight CONTENDERS.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
He has had a forced absence.
Pulev is struggling against journeymen, getting dropped, extended and losing rounds. Wilder is fighting people Tyson was when he had half the amount of Wilders bouts. Adamek just fought Guinn but apparently its only Tyson Fury who should be fighting contenders!
If you hadnt realised..... He just had Wlads most dangerous opponent run from him twice;D
How can you criticise a contender for signing to fight Wlads most dangerous opponent?
Fury has a glass jaw and no power accept it.
Frank Bruno was considered to have a weak chin at top level , well he had a granite chin compared to fury , oh and of course Frank had power.
Stiverene doesnt have the best chin (he's been stopped) or the best skills and gets hit alot.
Arreola has been stopped and has no skill.
Pulev has no power and got dropped in his last fight and looked shit.
Wilder has been dropped in the pros and is yet to show anything against anyone.
What Fury has is a good motor, throws lots of punches, fights without fear, has heart and stamina. He is a fighter and I like to watch fighters and he will be too much for anyone as he progresses further. He would have been too much for Haye. All the Bullshit that Haye would have won inside a couple of roumds, if it was that easy he would have gone ahead with the cut and the shoulder. As it is, Haye knew Fury was too much with any doubt.
Fury might lose. Who cares? Im glad he exists and im looking forward to watching him show a few so called top fighters up and "boxing experts".
Who would Fury have to beat for you to take him serious? Anyone in the current top 10? Or is that too easy for him, seeing as he already has beaten one of them? Top 5?
Name all the fighters that he would need to beat in the top ten to get any credit.
Fucking hell! Now Chisoras opponent has pulled out!
I cant see them facing each other.