Re: The Bute/Pascal fight decision is unsatisfactory!
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powerpuncher
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Silkeyjoe
I get what your saying, it was a shit fight, neither performed well. But on the scoring system in boxing its clear Pascal won. Rewatch it and score each round.
I can see it again and give you more context to what I mean. Some rounds, Pascal only was active for the last 10-15 seconds. I just can't give a guy the rounds off of stuff like that.
just because you dont want to give a fighter the round doesnt mean that you shouldnt. for example, if fighter A only throws 10 punches a round and lands 2 but fighter B throws 0 punches, then fighter A obviously wins even though he hardly threw a punch. you score a round by who won not by who shouldnt have won.
It varies and both have merits. A fighter can throw one punch in the last 10 secs and score a KD and win the round. But if this punch hurts the fighter wobbles but no KD does he still win as the punches the other guy threw for the 1st 170 secs didnt hurt him. Its down to perspective a lot of the time. I think calling a fight like this is a cop out and down to being lazy when scoring the fight.
thats a different situation though. whether or not you agree with the ruling, a KD will win the fighter the round. thats just how boxing scoring is done whether or not its the best way to be done. other than the KD exception, the person who does better wins the round. you cannot score a round even just because you didnt find either fighter particularly pleasing to watch.
Re: The Bute/Pascal fight decision is unsatisfactory!
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powerpuncher
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Silkeyjoe
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powerpuncher
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ykdadamaja
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Silkeyjoe
I get what your saying, it was a shit fight, neither performed well. But on the scoring system in boxing its clear Pascal won. Rewatch it and score each round.
I can see it again and give you more context to what I mean. Some rounds, Pascal only was active for the last 10-15 seconds. I just can't give a guy the rounds off of stuff like that.
just because you dont want to give a fighter the round doesnt mean that you shouldnt. for example, if fighter A only throws 10 punches a round and lands 2 but fighter B throws 0 punches, then fighter A obviously wins even though he hardly threw a punch. you score a round by who won not by who shouldnt have won.
It varies and both have merits. A fighter can throw one punch in the last 10 secs and score a KD and win the round. But if this punch hurts the fighter wobbles but no KD does he still win as the punches the other guy threw for the 1st 170 secs didnt hurt him. Its down to perspective a lot of the time. I think calling a fight like this is a cop out and down to being lazy when scoring the fight.
thats a different situation though. whether or not you agree with the ruling, a KD will win the fighter the round. thats just how boxing scoring is done whether or not its the best way to be done. other than the KD exception, the person who does better wins the round. you cannot score a round even just because you didnt find either fighter particularly pleasing to watch.
Of course you can score even rounds, or you can score a 9-8 round. You can even score a 9-9 round.
Re: The Bute/Pascal fight decision is unsatisfactory!
I don't score even rounds. Boxing scoring is subjective and it comes down to what you are looking for from the fighters. In my eyes, there is always something to like the sets the 2 fighters apart and I would only score an even round if one fighter was winning the round and suffered a point deduction for an infraction.
What I'm trying to say is, even rounds are for pussies who are afraid to get off the damn fence. Grow some balls and score the round for someone ;D
Re: The Bute/Pascal fight decision is unsatisfactory!
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I don't score even rounds. Boxing scoring is subjective and it comes down to what you are looking for from the fighters. In my eyes, there is always something to like the sets the 2 fighters apart and I would only score an even round if one fighter was winning the round and suffered a point deduction for an infraction.
What I'm trying to say is, even rounds are for pussies who are afraid to get off the damn fence. Grow some balls and score the round for someone ;D
... and there was nothing that truly separated them in a real fashion. Bute was scared and Pascal had spurts of 10 seconds. Not a good fight.
Re: The Bute/Pascal fight decision is unsatisfactory!
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ykdadamaja
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bzkfn
I don't score even rounds. Boxing scoring is subjective and it comes down to what you are looking for from the fighters. In my eyes, there is always something to like the sets the 2 fighters apart and I would only score an even round if one fighter was winning the round and suffered a point deduction for an infraction.
What I'm trying to say is, even rounds are for pussies who are afraid to get off the damn fence. Grow some balls and score the round for someone ;D
... and there was nothing that truly separated them in a real fashion. Bute was scared and Pascal had spurts of 10 seconds. Not a good fight.
i agree that you can score even rounds but if you think that there was nothing to set them apart throughout the fight then you should be a boxing judge. you would fit right in.
Re: The Bute/Pascal fight decision is unsatisfactory!
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Bute is the new Kermit Cintron. The first ko loss devasted him so much he will never be the same.. dude is traumatized and dont have the mental toughness to overcome it.
I don't know if that's the case but that could well be. And if so, it's a terribly pity and a terrible talent wasted.
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Bute is the new Kermit Cintron. The first ko loss devasted him so much he will never be the same.. dude is traumatized and dont have the mental toughness to overcome it.
I don't know if that's the case but that could well be. And if so, it's a terribly pity and a terrible talent wasted.
Was Brute a good fighter or just got exposed?