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Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe
Kesslers opponents are far better than what Golovkin has faced. Kesslers win over Magee is better than Golovkins over Macklin!
Magees losses have all come against world class fighters!
Like I said, when Magee is at least equal to every opponent you have faced, it shows the level you have not yet reached. Kesslers.
GGG is like a prospect still he like a Wilder almost but he has fought some contenders but at champ level what has he done nothing. I mean he is kinda old is he not he could of been fighting champs when he beat that hot prospect but went into hiding after did he not or no just wondering.
I disagree that GGG would be the harder hitter, it's a smaller weight, if he came up I doubt he would carry it up with him.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeKesseler is old and past it. He looked shit against an old Froch. His list of wins is not so impressive listed below for the last 7 years. THere is a reason he contemplated retirement for so long and is only looking for another payday.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossAnother level?Quote:
Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe
Look at how many world champions Kessler had faced and beaten. He unified titles.
Who has Golovkin beaten?
Another level alright. A level below.
Brian Magee - past it and average
Green - KOd by GGG in amateurs, nothing speical
Bouadla - nothing special
Froch - probably his best win and I dont rate Froch
Perdomo - who?
Haussler - who?
Sartison - who?
GGG is younger and freshed. Has no wear and tear from hard battles and is likely the harder hitter.
Id like to see the fight but GGG will get no credit if he beats him. He just beat an old shot fighter is what will be said.
Look at it this way, look at their natural body types, Kessler looks like he could comfortably move up in weight from super middle, and GGG looks like he'd be more comfy going down in weight, from middle. It's not a naturally fair fight.
Kessler would be too big in my opinion, he wouldn't need all his prime to beat GGG, he has the basic size and a good shot.
I think I'd favor an even slightly past it kess , hed be able to take it and dish it out, might taste the canvas, but chances are ggg would as well. Im thinking though the version thats going to come back is going to be a bit more than slighly past it, but Ill be rooting for kess if it ever comes off. This is not a slight to ggg but he should stay away from super middle, kess could easily fight at light heavy, and dam it ggg someone in the past 3 or 4 years must have been down with facing you.
Yes its possible. But I think at this stage of their careers, GGG coming into prime and Kess on the way out GGG will be the stronger of the two. Also, with Ross' great explanation of Kess killing himself in training for the Froch fight, making weight probably isnt as easy for Kess as it once was and as such wont be as strong as he used to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by VendettosI disagree that GGG would be the harder hitter, it's a smaller weight, if he came up I doubt he would carry it up with him.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeKesseler is old and past it. He looked shit against an old Froch. His list of wins is not so impressive listed below for the last 7 years. THere is a reason he contemplated retirement for so long and is only looking for another payday.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossAnother level?Quote:
Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe
Look at how many world champions Kessler had faced and beaten. He unified titles.
Who has Golovkin beaten?
Another level alright. A level below.
Brian Magee - past it and average
Green - KOd by GGG in amateurs, nothing speical
Bouadla - nothing special
Froch - probably his best win and I dont rate Froch
Perdomo - who?
Haussler - who?
Sartison - who?
GGG is younger and freshed. Has no wear and tear from hard battles and is likely the harder hitter.
Id like to see the fight but GGG will get no credit if he beats him. He just beat an old shot fighter is what will be said.
Look at it this way, look at their natural body types, Kessler looks like he could comfortably move up in weight from super middle, and GGG looks like he'd be more comfy going down in weight, from middle. It's not a naturally fair fight.
Kessler would be too big in my opinion, he wouldn't need all his prime to beat GGG, he has the basic size and a good shot.
Yes your arguments are pathetic. How good Kess' opponents have been do not change the fact he is coming towards the end of his career while GGG is coming to his prime. The fight isnt going to happen anytime soon with GGG fighting Geale next, its unlikely hes going to move up in weight.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossPathetic arguments?Quote:
Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe
Kesslers opponents are far better than what Golovkin has faced. Kesslers win over Magee is better than Golovkins over Macklin!
Magees losses have all come against world class fighters!
Like I said, when Magee is at least equal to every opponent you have faced, it shows the level you have not yet reached. Kesslers.
Put it this way.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeYes your arguments are pathetic. How good Kess' opponents have been do not change the fact he is coming towards the end of his career while GGG is coming to his prime. The fight isnt going to happen anytime soon with GGG fighting Geale next, its unlikely hes going to move up in weight.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossPathetic arguments?Quote:
Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe
Kesslers opponents are far better than what Golovkin has faced. Kesslers win over Magee is better than Golovkins over Macklin!
Magees losses have all come against world class fighters!
Like I said, when Magee is at least equal to every opponent you have faced, it shows the level you have not yet reached. Kesslers.
Look at Kessler and Golovkins last opponents.
If Kessler fought Golovkins last opponent Adama, would Adama get out of the first? I doubt it. Would Adama trouble Kessler like he did Golovkin, I doubt it.
If Golovkin fought Froch, would Golovkin have heard the final bell? I doubt it.
You have already said that Golovkins best opponents are Macklin and Stevens. Macklinlin had losses to Jamie Moore and Andrew Facey. Both light years away from world class. Stevens had been beaten by Jesse Brinkley and journeyman Marcus Primera. These are the best fighters that Golovkin has faced!? This is what him being able to move up and beat one of the strongest, hardest hitting and most durable supermiddles around is based on?
Golovkin wont even take the fight. Its just talk. If Golovkin moves up it will be with eyes on Abraham.
Why, are you one of the gays? LolQuote:
Originally Posted by oakleyno1Firstly your a retard for the gay commentQuote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
secondly - Kess vs GG - great fight! I hope it happens - pick em for me but hope kess wins!
Kessler beats his ass.. I agree on that