Re: what did everybody score the provo/algieri fight?
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Originally Posted by
Vendettos
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Originally Posted by
Andre
I had this at a glance cause I wasnt finger counting shots i saw clear i was just watching the thing but some rounds early i was thinking gee I could go either way here.
10-7
9-10
9-10
10-9
10-9
9-10
9-10
9-10
10-9
10-9
10-9
105 Ruslan to 102 Algieri
But hey wtf Algieri was scoring clean hard shots while going backwards all night thats whats people are having trouble with.
Anyway I have no problem with the decision as the dude has balls and a chin and is a smarter fighter,many in his position would have folded but he came on like Marquez did against Pac that time after going down early.
I thnk he'll do even better next time cause Ruslan is so open to an over hand right bomb all night long and that wasnt even touched on once due to Algieri moving backwards. But someone smart like Algeri is going see that on the replay and catch the plodding fucker coming in even harder next time.
Something I noticed, Algieri seemed a touch gun shy on right hand at times :confused:
I'm sorry but I feel embarrassed for people who scored Prov winning the fight. Maybe at a push you could give him it by a round, but for instance the 117-109 was a disgrace.
It seems to point to mindless mauling and missing as a good thing.
A couple of the rounds you've given Prov he landed like no punches in, how do you give him those rounds?
It shows that some people appreciate guys who are one dimensional, with 0 technique, who can score a knockdown.
The only reason people made a case for him is because he gave you a knockdown in round one.
I'd bet my house that if he had not knocked Algieri down in round one you wouldn't have given him some of the later round he was given and Algieri would have won a land slide.
Algieri won the fight, clearly, with one eye, comeback after being down twice, as 7/2 underdog, to win a world title.
We should be concentrating on where this new found top level fighter goes next. He has made a big fan of me.
Im not arguing, I wasnt counting shots like I said ,I just watched relaxed,they are my honest scores just on straight viewing. You may not score body shots I dont know. I have no trouble with Aligeri winning either for all the other reasons. You mentioned hits taken, I dont count glances or touches as they do in amateur fights, or checked or disrupted shots either. I count shots with percussion and effect that is more leaning toward professional style of scoring.I'll watch it again sometime and actually count percussive shots on my fingers and on paper and score it properly, see what happens eh :cool:.
Re: what did everybody score the provo/algieri fight?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Andre
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Vendettos
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Andre
I had this at a glance cause I wasnt finger counting shots i saw clear i was just watching the thing but some rounds early i was thinking gee I could go either way here.
10-7
9-10
9-10
10-9
10-9
9-10
9-10
9-10
10-9
10-9
10-9
105 Ruslan to 102 Algieri
But hey wtf Algieri was scoring clean hard shots while going backwards all night thats whats people are having trouble with.
Anyway I have no problem with the decision as the dude has balls and a chin and is a smarter fighter,many in his position would have folded but he came on like Marquez did against Pac that time after going down early.
I thnk he'll do even better next time cause Ruslan is so open to an over hand right bomb all night long and that wasnt even touched on once due to Algieri moving backwards. But someone smart like Algeri is going see that on the replay and catch the plodding fucker coming in even harder next time.
Something I noticed, Algieri seemed a touch gun shy on right hand at times :confused:
I'm sorry but I feel embarrassed for people who scored Prov winning the fight. Maybe at a push you could give him it by a round, but for instance the 117-109 was a disgrace.
It seems to point to mindless mauling and missing as a good thing.
A couple of the rounds you've given Prov he landed like no punches in, how do you give him those rounds?
It shows that some people appreciate guys who are one dimensional, with 0 technique, who can score a knockdown.
The only reason people made a case for him is because he gave you a knockdown in round one.
I'd bet my house that if he had not knocked Algieri down in round one you wouldn't have given him some of the later round he was given and Algieri would have won a land slide.
Algieri won the fight, clearly, with one eye, comeback after being down twice, as 7/2 underdog, to win a world title.
We should be concentrating on where this new found top level fighter goes next. He has made a big fan of me.
Im not arguing, I wasnt counting shots like I said ,I just watched relaxed,they are my honest scores just on straight viewing. You may not score body shots I dont know. I have no trouble with Aligeri winning either for all the other reasons. You mentioned hits taken,
I dont count glances or touches as they do in amateur fights, or checked or disrupted shots either. I count shots with percussion and effect that is more leaning toward professional style of scoring.I'll watch it again sometime and actually count percussive shots on my fingers and on paper and score it properly, see what happens eh :cool:.
At the bolded, I scored it like that also. I don't count a guy throwing pitter patter shots as winning the round or flurrying to try to steal the round. That's amateur boxing, not pro boxing. A prime example of pitter patter stuff?
This sequence in the Hagler-Leonard fight. Count how many clean hard shots Leonard landed.
http://i43.tinypic.com/2d1n41h.gif
Re: what did everybody score the provo/algieri fight?
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Originally Posted by
generalbulldog
At the bolded, I scored it like that also. I don't count a guy throwing pitter patter shots as winning the round or flurrying to try to steal the round. That's amateur boxing, not pro boxing. A prime example of pitter patter stuff?
This sequence in the Hagler-Leonard fight. Count how many clean hard shots Leonard landed.
http://i43.tinypic.com/2d1n41h.gif
Yeah but count how many clean hard shots Hagler landed.
Pitter patter that lands clean is better than a knockout punch that is dodged or blocked.
Re: what did everybody score the provo/algieri fight?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Andre
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Vendettos
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Andre
I had this at a glance cause I wasnt finger counting shots i saw clear i was just watching the thing but some rounds early i was thinking gee I could go either way here.
10-7
9-10
9-10
10-9
10-9
9-10
9-10
9-10
10-9
10-9
10-9
105 Ruslan to 102 Algieri
But hey wtf Algieri was scoring clean hard shots while going backwards all night thats whats people are having trouble with.
Anyway I have no problem with the decision as the dude has balls and a chin and is a smarter fighter,many in his position would have folded but he came on like Marquez did against Pac that time after going down early.
I thnk he'll do even better next time cause Ruslan is so open to an over hand right bomb all night long and that wasnt even touched on once due to Algieri moving backwards. But someone smart like Algeri is going see that on the replay and catch the plodding fucker coming in even harder next time.
Something I noticed, Algieri seemed a touch gun shy on right hand at times :confused:
I'm sorry but I feel embarrassed for people who scored Prov winning the fight. Maybe at a push you could give him it by a round, but for instance the 117-109 was a disgrace.
It seems to point to mindless mauling and missing as a good thing.
A couple of the rounds you've given Prov he landed like no punches in, how do you give him those rounds?
It shows that some people appreciate guys who are one dimensional, with 0 technique, who can score a knockdown.
The only reason people made a case for him is because he gave you a knockdown in round one.
I'd bet my house that if he had not knocked Algieri down in round one you wouldn't have given him some of the later round he was given and Algieri would have won a land slide.
Algieri won the fight, clearly, with one eye, comeback after being down twice, as 7/2 underdog, to win a world title.
We should be concentrating on where this new found top level fighter goes next. He has made a big fan of me.
Im not arguing, I wasnt counting shots like I said ,I just watched relaxed,they are my honest scores just on straight viewing. You may not score body shots I dont know. I have no trouble with Aligeri winning either for all the other reasons. You mentioned hits taken, I dont count glances or touches as they do in amateur fights, or checked or disrupted shots either. I count shots with percussion and effect that is more leaning toward professional style of scoring.I'll watch it again sometime and actually count percussive shots on my fingers and on paper and score it properly, see what happens eh :cool:.
1stly, that's not the correct way to score, clearly. If that was the correct way to score then you had 2 wrong judges? You have it that Prov was robbed?
And sure I see what you voted for, but like I said, you can say what you want about the judges but you're scoring rounds for Provodnikov that I struggle to find punches connecting, I don't see how you can be a boxing fan and score this badly.
Also your thinking is basically shitting on any fighter that can't punch or make auditorium echo.
We have a go at judges constantly but then I see this and it makes me wonder if some people have the right to question them.
Each to their own though.
Re: what did everybody score the provo/algieri fight?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Vendettos
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Andre
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Vendettos
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Andre
I had this at a glance cause I wasnt finger counting shots i saw clear i was just watching the thing but some rounds early i was thinking gee I could go either way here.
10-7
9-10
9-10
10-9
10-9
9-10
9-10
9-10
10-9
10-9
10-9
105 Ruslan to 102 Algieri
But hey wtf Algieri was scoring clean hard shots while going backwards all night thats whats people are having trouble with.
Anyway I have no problem with the decision as the dude has balls and a chin and is a smarter fighter,many in his position would have folded but he came on like Marquez did against Pac that time after going down early.
I thnk he'll do even better next time cause Ruslan is so open to an over hand right bomb all night long and that wasnt even touched on once due to Algieri moving backwards. But someone smart like Algeri is going see that on the replay and catch the plodding fucker coming in even harder next time.
Something I noticed, Algieri seemed a touch gun shy on right hand at times :confused:
I'm sorry but I feel embarrassed for people who scored Prov winning the fight. Maybe at a push you could give him it by a round, but for instance the 117-109 was a disgrace.
It seems to point to mindless mauling and missing as a good thing.
A couple of the rounds you've given Prov he landed like no punches in, how do you give him those rounds?
It shows that some people appreciate guys who are one dimensional, with 0 technique, who can score a knockdown.
The only reason people made a case for him is because he gave you a knockdown in round one.
I'd bet my house that if he had not knocked Algieri down in round one you wouldn't have given him some of the later round he was given and Algieri would have won a land slide.
Algieri won the fight, clearly, with one eye, comeback after being down twice, as 7/2 underdog, to win a world title.
We should be concentrating on where this new found top level fighter goes next. He has made a big fan of me.
Im not arguing, I wasnt counting shots like I said ,I just watched relaxed,they are my honest scores just on straight viewing. You may not score body shots I dont know. I have no trouble with Aligeri winning either for all the other reasons. You mentioned hits taken, I dont count glances or touches as they do in amateur fights, or checked or disrupted shots either. I count shots with percussion and effect that is more leaning toward professional style of scoring.I'll watch it again sometime and actually count percussive shots on my fingers and on paper and score it properly, see what happens eh :cool:.
1stly, that's not the correct way to score, clearly. If that was the correct way to score then you had 2 wrong judges? You have it that Prov was robbed?
And sure I see what you voted for, but like I said, you can say what you want about the judges but you're scoring rounds for Provodnikov that I struggle to find punches connecting, I don't see how you can be a boxing fan and score this badly.
Also your thinking is basically shitting on any fighter that can't punch or make auditorium echo.
We have a go at judges constantly but then I see this and it makes me wonder if some people have the right to question them.
Each to their own though.
Well without getting all snarkey in reply to you with your comments like 'I feel embarressed for' ,"shitting on fighters'? I dont see how you can be a boxing fan?"
You need to read my post correctly and not put words into it that wernt there. I never mentioned robbery, I said I scored in a relaxed mode of just viewing a fight .Try re reading my posts from the beginning correctly and relax a touch when you reply to me. You also said a couple of rounds Prov landed no shots which rounds? Anyone know where I can see this fight again?
Re: what did everybody score the provo/algieri fight?
I haven't seen the fight
im might watch it, but I doubt it as all my tv watching time is dedicated to the world cup
and I might watch martin murray on saturday
