Has a European Champion Ever Transcended to Stardom in the United States?

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Originally Posted by Beanflicker

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Originally Posted by Master

Which European fighters have achieved that over in the states Naz, Hatton and maybe Joe Calzhage.

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They never had mainstream appeal in the States.

Naz was on the brink but got whipped by MAB and put on 100 pounds.

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You really don't like Britain hey? Major chip on your shoulder boy.

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Originally Posted by ryanman

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Originally Posted by Beanflicker

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Originally Posted by Master

Which European fighters have achieved that over in the states Naz, Hatton and maybe Joe Calzhage.

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They never had mainstream appeal in the States.

Naz was on the brink but got whipped by MAB and put on 100 pounds.

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You really don't like Britain hey? Major chip on your shoulder boy.

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I like Britain just fine - my grandmother was born in Hull. But as far as producing quality, world class, ATG fighters... you lot are lacking. That's what's up.

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Originally Posted by Beanflicker

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Originally Posted by Master

Which European fighters have achieved that over in the states Naz, Hatton and maybe Joe Calzhage.

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They never had mainstream appeal in the States.

Naz was on the brink but got whipped by MAB and put on 100 pounds.

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You really don't like Britain hey? Major chip on your shoulder boy.

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I like Britain just fine - my grandmother was born in Hull. But as far as producing quality, world class, ATG fighters... you lot are lacking. That's what's up.

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Canada though?

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Originally Posted by Beanflicker

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Originally Posted by Master

Which European fighters have achieved that over in the states Naz, Hatton and maybe Joe Calzhage.

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They never had mainstream appeal in the States.

Naz was on the brink but got whipped by MAB and put on 100 pounds.

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You really don't like Britain hey? Major chip on your shoulder boy.

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I like Britain just fine - my grandmother was born in Hull. But as far as producing quality, world class, ATG fighters... you lot are lacking. That's what's up.

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Canada though?

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Well hell, I never claimed Canada was a hot bed of boxing talent either (although the fact remains that the greatest "British fighter" of all time learned to box in Canada, but that's a whole other issue).

Difference is, Canada generally doesn't care about boxing. We like hockey.

The Brits LOVE boxing, yet they produce so few real quality fighters.

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Originally Posted by ryanman

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Originally Posted by Beanflicker

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Originally Posted by Master

Which European fighters have achieved that over in the states Naz, Hatton and maybe Joe Calzhage.

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They never had mainstream appeal in the States.

Naz was on the brink but got whipped by MAB and put on 100 pounds.

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You really don't like Britain hey? Major chip on your shoulder boy.

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I like Britain just fine - my grandmother was born in Hull. But as far as producing quality, world class, ATG fighters... you lot are lacking. That's what's up.

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Canada though?

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Well hell, I never claimed Canada was a hot bed of boxing talent either (although the fact remains that the greatest "British fighter" of all time learned to box in Canada, but that's a whole other issue).

Difference is, Canada generally doesn't care about boxing. We like hockey.

The Brits LOVE boxing, yet they produce so few real quality fighters.

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Actually, not that this gives me any pleasure, but it's probably about the 7th most popular sport in Britain. Sure, some fights really take off and the general public get into it, but that's only every couple of years.

Yeah boxing is NOT a popular sport in this country

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Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus

Yeah boxing is NOT a popular sport in this country

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They had over 80,000 Brits packing Wembley for Froch/Groves, didn't they?

Yeh Lewis for sure. Its weird. Eubanks make his pro debut in the States, wins another 5,6 here and never came back. His rival Benn came over after Watson loss to rebuild by destroying a couple of 'names' on network tv and then leaves to not come back. Some Americans become world travelers to build a name. Winky literally fought in his backyard early but once he left the U.S started to blow up. The exposure and ease with which we are able to follow or learn fighters now with a key stroke is immeasurable.

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Yeah boxing is NOT a popular sport in this country

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They had over 80,000 Brits packing Wembley for Froch/Groves, didn't they?

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Yep.
We do have great turnouts for lots of sports.

But unfortunately it is about 7th.


Have a look at bbc.co.uk/sport
Notice how 8 sports have their own tab. Then there is 'other' sports. Boxing is under 'other'.

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Originally Posted by Master

Which European fighters have achieved that over in the states Naz, Hatton and maybe Joe Calzhage.

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They never had mainstream appeal in the States.

Naz was on the brink but got whipped by MAB and put on 100 pounds.

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Naz had a six-fight $12 million deal with HBO, his American debut with Kevin Kelley, packing out Madison Square Garden, broke the all-time gate record for a featherweight fight, he ended his USA career at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas on PPV against a fighter that had never previously been on PPV. It did 310,000 buys.

Barrera-Morales II - 290,000 buys.
Barrera-Morales III - 300,000 buys.
Barrera-Marquez - 225,000 buys.

Even with the popularity Barrera got from beating Naz, and facing genuine great American based Mexican fighters, the PPV numbers still came up short of the Naz fight. Naz was the A-side.

Naz = US "star." Fact.

Didn't the thread say European champion ?
That's why I said Lloyd Honeyghan.
For example Hamed was never European Feather champion, then he challenged Robinson.
See my point ?

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

Didn't the thread say European champion ?
That's why I said Lloyd Honeyghan.
For example Hamed was never European Feather champion, then he challenged Robinson.
See my point ?

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Yeah, just took it as it was meant.

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Originally Posted by ryanman

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

Didn't the thread say European champion ?
That's why I said Lloyd Honeyghan.
For example Hamed was never European Feather champion, then he challenged Robinson.
See my point ?

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Yeah, just took it as it was meant.

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You are saying you cant read ? ;)

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Originally Posted by Beanflicker

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Originally Posted by Master

Which European fighters have achieved that over in the states Naz, Hatton and maybe Joe Calzhage.

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They never had mainstream appeal in the States.

Naz was on the brink but got whipped by MAB and put on 100 pounds.

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Mainstream appeal is appearing on chatshows is it not?

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

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Originally Posted by ryanman

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

Didn't the thread say European champion ?
That's why I said Lloyd Honeyghan.
For example Hamed was never European Feather champion, then he challenged Robinson.
See my point ?

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Yeah, just took it as it was meant.

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You are saying you cant read ? ;)

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ha, no, just that I presumed the thread starter made an error. But you have to be a smart Al(ec) ;)