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Dia bando
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This problem is not just ours, when this bunch come home I totally agree with Al , who in
there right mind wants them back.
What will theses Fundamentalists have in store for us I wonder,! there is no meds to cure
them they are beyond reason.
All this shit about being a Martyr, so what sitting there with your thumb up your ass is no
good what so ever, everybody can see what they do to people.
But one of our own as we debate this maybe beheaded by some, that are so called citizens
of this Country as well, truly appalling they are not fit to live in this Country.
We must act the death penalty, may not be a deterrent by your sure get rid of them and
we are better off without theses people.
Obviously no one wants them back here living freely in the UK.
As usual it isn't a case of either you want to reintroduce the death penalty on the spot or you want them living here freely.
I'd like these fuckers better dead. But that isn't the same as saying I want the death penalty reintroduced on the spot to kill them (although I totally understand that impulse).
Just because someone says we can't just kill them because we live by the rule of law (which is a good thing and why we are not savages like they are) doesn't mean they want them living here.
Edit* Who is saying they want them back Rich? I don't see anyone saying that.
They will come back we have to except it, but shall we say 300 plus or what ever turn up, we
have to lock them up, I agree the death penalty is no deterrent but , theses are very dangerous
people, and sometimes we should look to forget about a kid glove approach which we are doing.
Ryan what the hell are we going to do with them, with any luck there will suffer a nasty horrible
death out in the middle East.
May I ask do you think we should put up with Fundamentalists, which we have done and now we
are paying the price.
Nobody in there right mind want's theses people back, but they will return then the fun starts
it's amazing how quick the government can change or bring in new laws, when it suits.
But alas they will be treated nicely and given there dignity, and privileges no hard labour for this
bunch, there only suffering will be locked up 3 meals a day a nice warm bed.:(
Honestly I'd like them to die.
What we are going to do with any that return is a very difficult question and honestly I don't have the answer to it.
No I don't think we should put up with Fundamentalists. Even those that have not left this country but preach hate here. I'm all for free speech but if you live in the UK and you incite hatred and call for the murder of Britons you can fuck off to prison as far as I'm concerned.
as for those returning from Syria or Iraq prison may well be too good for them but I don't know what else we can do. Unless we use their tactics and ignore the rule of law. But that is a very dangerous path to take too. Either way this is a major problem but for one I don't profess to have an answer!
Ideally they will all be killed out there.
And that's Mr Liberal Lefty saying that. Never wished death on anyone but I'll make an exception for these guys.
I never wish people dead, but seeing those people beheaded by that scum has changed my mind.
Re: What Should Be Done.?
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Dia bando
This problem is not just ours, when this bunch come home I totally agree with Al , who in
there right mind wants them back.
What will theses Fundamentalists have in store for us I wonder,! there is no meds to cure
them they are beyond reason.
All this shit about being a Martyr, so what sitting there with your thumb up your ass is no
good what so ever, everybody can see what they do to people.
But one of our own as we debate this maybe beheaded by some, that are so called citizens
of this Country as well, truly appalling they are not fit to live in this Country.
We must act the death penalty, may not be a deterrent by your sure get rid of them and
we are better off without theses people.
Well if they are true to their cause, they will try and steer the plane into the top of Heathrow or the palace. Need them in shackles on the plane trip and guards on the plane when they return.
By the way ,I was thinking aloud in the voice of this guy in the post above :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ojdh20fYd4o
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I couldn't give a fuck if they caught them and tortured them all to death but killing them back here wouldn't act as a deterrent, it would inspire more homegrown lunatics that do gods work therefore are promised paradise in the after life.
This isn't a short term fix , they will continue to fight their cause ,so we deal with them until the threat is over , we have to start to take a hard line approach as it is the only way we can start to deal with these ignorant religious peasants. They people would still be using catapults if the west haven't sold arms to them , what a wise move that was huh ?
About a couple of centuries or so ago, most of us would of been peasants. So your plan is to deal with 'State' butchering, by bringing in 'State' executions for the peasants?
What happens when it is found out your family originated from the peasantry? As you stated a state execution is the only answer, because being a 'peasant' cannot be cured...
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The Daily Mirror has a interesting article about this subject, two people have very interesting
points, one for letting them return, the other not for them to return.!!!!
Yes you can be young and Idealistic, but you must remember the repulsive acts of barbarity
carried out by Issa , and not all have been involved but some have.
The group that have been Beheading, people for all to see are by all accounts form the UK, we
can not ever allow them back into Society.
We have LAWS and most people are law abiding, but we are dealing with barbarity some times
you have to look at the way we treat, Scum bags maybe a Civilised Society can't no longer
deal with theses people.
Maybe a place like Devils Island, no contact with the outside World, life will mean life hard labour,
no nicety's if they wish they could end it by being executed.
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I think you put them on trial if they have committed a crime and that's all there is to it. Didn't Owell go and fight in the Spanish civil war, should we have just shot him? Absolutely not. If there is a cause you believe in then you go for it, but if you commit heinous crimes then do expect some trouble. I've heard it mentioned by hypocritical old goats that these Isis should be sent to the Hague. Sorry old goat, but there is a list and it starts with Blair and Bush. Put those two away and many will put down their guns.
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I think you put them on trial if they have committed a crime and that's all there is to it. Didn't Owell go and fight in the Spanish civil war, should we have just shot him? Absolutely not. If there is a cause you believe in then you go for it, but if you commit heinous crimes then do expect some trouble. I've heard it mentioned by hypocritical old goats that these Isis should be sent to the Hague. Sorry old goat, but there is a list and it starts with Blair and Bush. Put those two away and many will put down their guns.
Miles your back, right mate we have no room in THIS COUNTRY for fundamentalists, we must look
at theses people as a danger to our very own Society. The views are extreme and you no if you
don't agree with there outlook, well we can see what theses people are capable of.
Miles Isis are fighting a WAR mate so they should be war crimes they answer for,! how would you
feel a guy down the road, comes home like fuck all has happened and he has carried out atrocity's.
Remember Blair and Bush are history, today and tomorrow that counts mate I don't want terrorists
or fundamentalists living in our society , Jail Blair or Bush the fighting will not stop, you can blame
who you like, but in reality THE ONE'S DOING THE KILLING ARE TO BLAME,!!!!!!! we are dealing
with a narrow minded bunch of savages.;)
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They are history, but if we are to be just we have to go to the roots and clean up our mess. I am all for putting Isis in the Hague if we also go to the roots and the elite themselves too. If we don't put Blair in the dock for a million dead, then how dare we get angry about Isis? I think they are both awful and should be dealt with accordingly. We have the law and it should be applied to Isis, Israel, America, everybody. It has me in stitches when British or American politicians moan about Russia and supplying arms. Are these people serious? :D
There is no doubt that a lot of people are needlessly dead, but these two beheadings don't even seem genuine. The Foley one is particularly bad and the entire family appear to be crisis actors also used at previous false flags such as Sandy Hook and Boston. My solution is simple. Close the border and stop invading countries. Then if people actually do something bad then do something about it. Instead we have police trolling Twitter to arrest angry people or knocking down the doors of honest bloggers and the borders are open to anyone AND terror attacks are usually set up by our elite!
Isis aren't really the problem. Our elite funded and created them (along with others), it always leads back to the same sources. And to rub it in Tony Blair is the philanthropist of the year! What! :-X
Edit: Obviously Isis is a problem. My point is that if we didn't create them then they couldn't be a problem. They didn't appear out of thin air.
Re: What Should Be Done.?
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They are history, but if we are to be just we have to go to the roots and clean up our mess. I am all for putting Isis in the Hague if we also go to the roots and the elite themselves too. If we don't put Blair in the dock for a million dead, then how dare we get angry about Isis? I think they are both awful and should be dealt with accordingly. We have the law and it should be applied to Isis, Israel, America, everybody. It has me in stitches when British or American politicians moan about Russia and supplying arms. Are these people serious? :D
There is no doubt that a lot of people are needlessly dead, but these two beheadings don't even seem genuine. The Foley one is particularly bad and the entire family appear to be crisis actors also used at previous false flags such as Sandy Hook and Boston. My solution is simple. Close the border and stop invading countries. Then if people actually do something bad then do something about it. Instead we have police trolling Twitter to arrest angry people or knocking down the doors of honest bloggers and the borders are open to anyone AND terror attacks are usually set up by our elite!
Isis aren't really the problem. Our elite funded and created them (along with others), it always leads back to the same sources. And to rub it in Tony Blair is the philanthropist of the year! What! :-X
Edit: Obviously Isis is a problem. My point is that if we didn't create them then they couldn't be a problem. They didn't appear out of thin air.
Miles the middle East has always been a region, of instability, before Blair or Bush were in power
this has been going on for years mate, this is nothing new.!!!
There are many different factions, all out for there own ends the different cultures and religions,
to be honest I would be surprised if peace is ever found, in the middle east because to have peace
to have to give and take, and people have to be willing to do so.
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On the whole Iraq was a better (though less than perfect) place under Saddam. It is our fault that we destroyed that relative quietude. The same in Libya too. No paradise, but look at the horror that now is. We did all that and until we hold our elite responsible, then we deserve what we get. Blair was our leader, Bush was America's leader. It is the people who should be demanding justice. If we want a safe Britain then we need these people behind bars to show we are serious. We are not serious in the slightest and our foreign policy is thus nonsensical.
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I got a Friend who is Syrian, he said they wanted democracy so they fight for it, they
took two relatives husband and wife out of there house and executed them.
What price democracy mate a heavy one,! yes Iraq and Libya had stability but they
were dictatorships and far from perfect, they did murder many innocent people.
Remember Miles we may disagree what our government do and say so, but we are not taken out in the street and executed, we are extremely lucky mate but what we take for granted , WAS hard
earned, people were killed for our rights in the past.
Different times but very much what people fight for freedom, but I fancy theses people do not
want Fundamentalism, and this is a form of dictatorship, so it out of the frying pan into the fire.
