Re: Eubank Sr. the REASON...
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g3org3
Infact can any1 on this forum point out a big round Saunders won ? Because I want to go rematch that round. Just 1 round ?
Point out a big round jr had as well then? To make it fair like
12 th could make a case for a 10-8 round Saunders was out of it at 1 point before the ref stopped the action. So what round did Saunders dominate ?
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Eubank didn't win .
The End.
Re: Eubank Sr. the REASON...
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Dark Lord Al
Eubank didn't win .
The End.
One judge thought he did.
I was thinking about split decisions last night. If one judge thinks you have won its unfair that you get a loss.
Re: Eubank Sr. the REASON...
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Originally Posted by
ross
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Originally Posted by
Dark Lord Al
Eubank didn't win .
The End.
One judge thought he did.
I was thinking about split decisions last night. If one judge thinks you have won its unfair that you get a loss.
Calzaghe-Hopkins was a SD. Who won?
Re: Eubank Sr. the REASON...
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
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Originally Posted by
ross
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Originally Posted by
Dark Lord Al
Eubank didn't win .
The End.
One judge thought he did.
I was thinking about split decisions last night. If one judge thinks you have won its unfair that you get a loss.
Calzaghe-Hopkins was a SD. Who won?
Eubank didn't need to crawl around on the floor looking for respite. Hopkins didn't finish the fight knocking Calzaghe all over the shop. Hopkins was fighting in front of his countrymen in his country.
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It was a close fight but the result is a Eubank loss.
Re: Eubank Sr. the REASON...
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Originally Posted by
g3org3
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
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Originally Posted by
g3org3
Infact can any1 on this forum point out a big round Saunders won ? Because I want to go rematch that round. Just 1 round ?
Point out a big round jr had as well then? To make it fair like
12 th could make a case for a 10-8 round Saunders was out of it at 1 point before the ref stopped the action. So what round did Saunders dominate ?
10-8 round? Come on. The 12th round of Hopkins-Kovalev should have been a 10-6 then. I've watched the fight twice and didn't notice Billy Joe ever turned into a defensless drunk.
I don't think there was many "dominate" rounds. If "dominate" means one was wiping the floor with the other.
Re: Eubank Sr. the REASON...
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
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Originally Posted by
g3org3
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
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Originally Posted by
g3org3
Infact can any1 on this forum point out a big round Saunders won ? Because I want to go rematch that round. Just 1 round ?
Point out a big round jr had as well then? To make it fair like
12 th could make a case for a 10-8 round Saunders was out of it at 1 point before the ref stopped the action. So what round did Saunders dominate ?
10-8 round? Come on. The 12th round of Hopkins-Kovalev should have been a 10-6 then. I've watched the fight twice and didn't notice Billy Joe ever turned into a defensless drunk.
I don't think there was many "dominate" rounds. If "dominate" means one was wiping the floor with the other.
I scored the 12th 10-9 but u could make a point for 10-8 had bjs hurt twice. All I'm saying is it was a close fight I feel eubank won and I didn't see 1 single round Saunders looked good in, every round he won was a close round he just edge his rounds but eubank took his rounds clearly.
Re: Eubank Sr. the REASON...
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Originally Posted by
ross
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
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Originally Posted by
ross
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Originally Posted by
Dark Lord Al
Eubank didn't win .
The End.
One judge thought he did.
I was thinking about split decisions last night. If one judge thinks you have won its unfair that you get a loss.
Calzaghe-Hopkins was a SD. Who won?
Eubank didn't need to crawl around on the floor looking for respite. Hopkins didn't finish the fight knocking Calzaghe all over the shop. Hopkins was fighting in front of his countrymen in his country.
That didn't matter to the judge that scored it for Hopkins. So by your rationale it's unfair that Hopkins lost to Calzaghe. You set the criteria not me. Fact.
Re: Eubank Sr. the REASON...
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g3org3
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
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Originally Posted by
g3org3
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
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Originally Posted by
g3org3
Infact can any1 on this forum point out a big round Saunders won ? Because I want to go rematch that round. Just 1 round ?
Point out a big round jr had as well then? To make it fair like
12 th could make a case for a 10-8 round Saunders was out of it at 1 point before the ref stopped the action. So what round did Saunders dominate ?
10-8 round? Come on. The 12th round of Hopkins-Kovalev should have been a 10-6 then. I've watched the fight twice and didn't notice Billy Joe ever turned into a defensless drunk.
I don't think there was many "dominate" rounds. If "dominate" means one was wiping the floor with the other.
I scored the 12th 10-9 but u could make a point for 10-8 had bjs hurt twice. All I'm saying is it was a close fight I feel eubank won and I didn't see 1 single round Saunders looked good in, every round he won was a close round he just edge his rounds but eubank took his rounds clearly.
I agree it was a close fight. On second viewing I could give Eubank a draw. I didn't think either fighter was ever in serious trouble though.
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What Eubank can take from this is he has all the natural tools, attributes and ability to improve with experience. He hurt Saunders frequently, no one else has but thats not saying much as Saunders hasn't done much himself yet. He took some flush shots and was never really hurt. Saunders is fooling himself he had Cjris on wobbly legs in the second.
Eubank can get better. He's gone from fighting journeymen to fighting the defending British, Commonwealth and European champ and one judge had him a winner.
Saunders will also benefit from this. Hopefully he wins the WBO and hopefully Warren sniffs the big money rematch before Saunders fucks it up by losing to someone else and we get a rematch. Chrishas more room for improvement. If he had started putting the punches together and the pressure 5 rounds earlier I believe there would be no debate now because Saunders would have been stopped.
Don't forget this was a fitter, better prepared fighter than those mythical, amazing, british, undefeated fighters faced;D
Re: Eubank Sr. the REASON...
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
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Originally Posted by
ross
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
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Originally Posted by
ross
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Originally Posted by
Dark Lord Al
Eubank didn't win .
The End.
One judge thought he did.
I was thinking about split decisions last night. If one judge thinks you have won its unfair that you get a loss.
Calzaghe-Hopkins was a SD. Who won?
Eubank didn't need to crawl around on the floor looking for respite. Hopkins didn't finish the fight knocking Calzaghe all over the shop. Hopkins was fighting in front of his countrymen in his country.
That didn't matter to the judge that scored it for Hopkins. So by your rationale it's unfair that Hopkins lost to Calzaghe. You set the criteria not me. Fact.
What I'm saying is Eubank actually looked like he was winning. Hopkins didn't.
Re: Eubank Sr. the REASON...
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ross
What Eubank can take from this is he has all the natural tools, attributes and ability to improve with experience. He hurt Saunders frequently, no one else has but thats not saying much as Saunders hasn't done much himself yet. He took some flush shots and was never really hurt. Saunders is fooling himself he had Cjris on wobbly legs in the second.
Eubank can get better. He's gone from fighting journeymen to fighting the defending British, Commonwealth and European champ and one judge had him a winner.
Saunders will also benefit from this. Hopefully he wins the WBO and hopefully Warren sniffs the big money rematch before Saunders fucks it up by losing to someone else and we get a rematch. Chrishas more room for improvement. If he had started putting the punches together and the pressure 5 rounds earlier I believe there would be no debate now because Saunders would have been stopped.
Don't forget this was a fitter, better prepared fighter than those mythical, amazing, british, undefeated fighters faced;D
So what were his tactics and reasons then for not putting pressure on him earlier ?
Re: Eubank Sr. the REASON...
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Originally Posted by
Dark Lord Al
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Originally Posted by
ross
What Eubank can take from this is he has all the natural tools, attributes and ability to improve with experience. He hurt Saunders frequently, no one else has but thats not saying much as Saunders hasn't done much himself yet. He took some flush shots and was never really hurt. Saunders is fooling himself he had Cjris on wobbly legs in the second.
Eubank can get better. He's gone from fighting journeymen to fighting the defending British, Commonwealth and European champ and one judge had him a winner.
Saunders will also benefit from this. Hopefully he wins the WBO and hopefully Warren sniffs the big money rematch before Saunders fucks it up by losing to someone else and we get a rematch. Chrishas more room for improvement. If he had started putting the punches together and the pressure 5 rounds earlier I believe there would be no debate now because Saunders would have been stopped.
Don't forget this was a fitter, better prepared fighter than those mythical, amazing, british, undefeated fighters faced;D
So what were his tactics and reasons then for not putting pressure on him earlier ?
Im not sure. I was frustrated watching those first few rounds. I think he thought he would take him out easy. Saunders was very cautious. Its credit to Eubank that he adapted and chased Saunders down and had him rattling all over the shop nearly stopping him in the 12th when all the experts logic said Eubanks stamina would be shit and Saunders would be top notch because some british level fighters extended him.;D
Eubank will learn now to just let the punches go and work rather than try and load up.
Re: Eubank Sr. the REASON...
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Originally Posted by
ross
What Eubank can take from this is he has all the natural tools, attributes and ability to improve with experience. He hurt Saunders frequently, no one else has but thats not saying much as Saunders hasn't done much himself yet. He took some flush shots and was never really hurt. Saunders is fooling himself he had Cjris on wobbly legs in the second.
Eubank can get better. He's gone from fighting journeymen to fighting the defending British, Commonwealth and European champ and one judge had him a winner.
Saunders will also benefit from this. Hopefully he wins the WBO and hopefully Warren sniffs the big money rematch before Saunders fucks it up by losing to someone else and we get a rematch. Chrishas more room for improvement. If he had started putting the punches together and the pressure 5 rounds earlier I believe there would be no debate now because Saunders would have been stopped.
Don't forget this was a fitter, better prepared fighter than those mythical, amazing, british, undefeated fighters faced;D
Lol yea I seen that interview were Saunders says he wobbled eubank in the 2nd. I don't know how he managed to keep a straight face chatting that pish