Re: Chris Eubank Jnr thought he didn't lose to Saunders
This is a fact.
As I mentioned most people who thought Eubank lost are biased against him because of his confidence. He doesn't say childish derogatory things about his opponents like Saunders does (how Saunders didn't get fined like Fury for saying worse things is beyond me!), its just british people seem to be programmed to despise or be jealous of confident people.
This influenced the scoring big time and also viewers perception of what they saw, probably including the judges. Eubank says it will be an easy fight, viewers think "well you didn't find that round easy so you don't win it", rather than, "Eubank outworked and out landed Saunders that round so wins it". I keep reading that "Eubank did nothing in the first half". Yes he did. There was possibly 3 rounds he should have won in the first half and if the landed punches were actually counted I think you would be surprised to see Eubank out landed Saunders. A lot of Saunders punches never landed on scoring areas either.
Its easy now for those who dislike Eubank to dismiss his efforts as "he did nothing" when they know its not the case. If he really did nothing one of the judges would have awarded him the fight.
Re: Chris Eubank Jnr thought he didn't lose to Saunders
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This is a fact.
As I mentioned most people who thought Eubank lost are biased against him because of his confidence. He doesn't say childish derogatory things about his opponents like Saunders does (how Saunders didn't get fined like Fury for saying worse things is beyond me!), its just british people seem to be programmed to despise or be jealous of confident people.
This influenced the scoring big time and also viewers perception of what they saw, probably including the judges. Eubank says it will be an easy fight, viewers think "well you didn't find that round easy so you don't win it", rather than, "Eubank outworked and out landed Saunders that round so wins it". I keep reading that "Eubank did nothing in the first half". Yes he did. There was possibly 3 rounds he should have won in the first half and if the landed punches were actually counted I think you would be surprised to see Eubank out landed Saunders. A lot of Saunders punches never landed on scoring areas either.
Its easy now for those who dislike Eubank to dismiss his efforts as "he did nothing" when they know its not the case. If he really did nothing one of the judges would have awarded him the fight.
These are not facts, these are your opinions.
I am not biased against Eubank. I scored the fight fairly, if anything I was generous to Eubank and still had Saunders winning.
What you said applies to YOU more then anyone else I have ever met. If you like a fighter you are over the top biased towards them and if anything it influences your scoring.
Re: Chris Eubank Jnr thought he didn't lose to Saunders
Did my "bias" also influence the judge and all the people who saw the fight that think Eubank won?
Re: Chris Eubank Jnr thought he didn't lose to Saunders
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Did my "bias" also influence the judge and all the people who saw the fight that think Eubank won?
No. And it didnt influence the majority who thought Saunders won. The majority of the people who thought Eubank won are people who backed him to win before hand.
Re: Chris Eubank Jnr thought he didn't lose to Saunders
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Did my "bias" also influence the judge and all the people who saw the fight that think Eubank won?
No. And it didnt influence the majority who thought Saunders won. The majority of the people who thought Eubank won are people who backed him to win before hand.
Your wrong.
I had a tall (6,4ish) loud English Gypsy behind me who we got chatting with called himself Randy. He had a few mates and some of them thought Eubank won. They were there in support of Saunders and none of them were confident Saunders had won at the final bell and like i said, some had Eubank winning.
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Did my "bias" also influence the judge and all the people who saw the fight that think Eubank won?
No. And it didnt influence the majority who thought Saunders won. The majority of the people who thought Eubank won are people who backed him to win before hand.
Your wrong.
I had a tall (6,4ish) loud English Gypsy behind me who we got chatting with called himself Randy. He had a few mates and some of them thought Eubank won. They were there in support of Saunders and none of them were confident Saunders had won at the final bell and like i said, some had Eubank winning.
So because some Gypsys at the fight were unsure of the result Im wrong?
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Silkeyjoe
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ross
Did my "bias" also influence the judge and all the people who saw the fight that think Eubank won?
No. And it didnt influence the majority who thought Saunders won. The majority of the people who thought Eubank won are people who backed him to win before hand.
Your wrong.
I had a tall (6,4ish) loud English Gypsy behind me who we got chatting with called himself Randy. He had a few mates and some of them thought Eubank won. They were there in support of Saunders and none of them were confident Saunders had won at the final bell and like i said, some had Eubank winning.
So because some Gypsys at the fight were unsure of the result Im wrong?
NO...
Some thought Eubank won. The rest were unsure.
Re: Chris Eubank Jnr thought he didn't lose to Saunders
Saunders won - over Eubank . points
FACT . get over it.
That isn't an opinion it is fact.
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Saunders won - over Eubank . points
FACT . get over it.
That isn't an opinion it is fact.
I never said he didnt.
My argument is that no one has ever come as close or pushed as hard as Eubank Jr.
Re: Chris Eubank Jnr thought he didn't lose to Saunders
Too little too late for Eubank ;) he fought well over the second half but it still wasn't enough :p Saunders beat him fair and square :D
Doesn't matter now because Chudinov is going to knock him out :cool:
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Too little too late for Eubank ;) he fought well over the second half but it still wasn't enough :p Saunders beat him fair and square :D
Doesn't matter now because Chudinov is going to knock him out :cool:
Chudinov isnt very good. Id be surprised if he won.
Re: Chris Eubank Jnr thought he didn't lose to Saunders
Saunders is going to be defending his british title against Blackwell next.
The fights these two are having next you would think the decision went the other way.....
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Too little too late for Eubank ;) he fought well over the second half but it still wasn't enough :p Saunders beat him fair and square :D
Doesn't matter now because Chudinov is going to knock him out :cool:
Chudinov isnt very good. Id be surprised if he won.
Get ready to be surprised ;D
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Saunders is going to be defending his british title against Blackwell next.
The fights these two are having next you would think the decision went the other way.....
I thought Saunders was targeting Lee :confused:
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Too little too late for Eubank ;) he fought well over the second half but it still wasn't enough :p Saunders beat him fair and square :D
Doesn't matter now because Chudinov is going to knock him out :cool:
Chudinov isnt very good. Id be surprised if he won.
Get ready to be surprised ;D
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ross
Saunders is going to be defending his british title against Blackwell next.
The fights these two are having next you would think the decision went the other way.....
I thought Saunders was targeting Lee :confused:
They were.
Im pretty sure Saunders beats Lee relatively easy and I reckon booth also feels maybe not that Saunders would beat Lee easy but that its an awkward fight and he and Warren have come to an agreement that Lee gets an easy defence at home first. Makes sense financially but id rather see Saunders build on the exposure he got with Eubank and get an old name instead of rematching a british level fighter.
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La Cucaracha
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Silkeyjoe
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La Cucaracha
Too little too late for Eubank ;) he fought well over the second half but it still wasn't enough :p Saunders beat him fair and square :D
Doesn't matter now because Chudinov is going to knock him out :cool:
Chudinov isnt very good. Id be surprised if he won.
Get ready to be surprised ;D
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ross
Saunders is going to be defending his british title against Blackwell next.
The fights these two are having next you would think the decision went the other way.....
I thought Saunders was targeting Lee :confused:
They were.
Im pretty sure Saunders beats Lee relatively easy and I reckon booth also feels maybe not that Saunders would beat Lee easy but that its an awkward fight and he and Warren have come to an agreement that Lee gets an easy defence at home first.
Makes sense financially but id rather see Saunders build on the exposure he got with Eubank and get an old name instead of rematching a british level fighter.
Agreed , I think they know Saunders needs to be matched carefully.