Otherwise its just a random question.Quote:
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Otherwise its just a random question.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
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Originally Posted by rossNo where in my post have I said that at all:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlQuote:
Originally Posted by ross
He hits harder than Sanders and Rahman ?
Sorry I misread , you actually said he will be much harder to hit , it was late I was a bit pissed sorry.
You listed Tyson Fury's attributes as you see them and were then asked about one of his attributes, that's hardly random.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossOtherwise its just a random question.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
Adam, stop it. Al has realised he misread it. I thought he had.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGBYou listed Tyson Fury's attributes as you see them and were then asked about one of his attributes, that's hardly random.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossOtherwise its just a random question.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
You are off on another odd tangent;)
If you think one line of text is a tangent then you myst have a short attention span.
The question is relevant, can Fury break the skin off a rice pudding? Fury will be the 'best combination puncher' Wlad has fought in a while if he continues not to to plant his feet or throw with any snap.
He's going to need movement, fluidity AND power...
Your wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
I believe Fury had power. If he didnt, people like Chisora would have walked through him. He drops and hurts people without trying, the shots he drops them with they don't see coming as they are in a combination and he does it while on the move. He is the most fluid heavy out there and is still improving. He will be lighter on his feet against Wlad as he admitted he only trained for 5 weeks for Hammer as Hammer was only a journeyman.
Ali dropped fighters without being a puncher. Its the sharpness and speed and being able to put more than two shots together that will trouble Wlad. He's ok against plodding one two fighters but those who can move and punch in combination will beat him. Like I said also, he's going to struggle to land against Tyson more so than anyone else he's fought.
ooooff it is going to hurt when you fall back to earthQuote:
Originally Posted by rossYour wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
I believe Fury had power. If he didnt, people like Chisora would have walked through him. He drops and hurts people without trying, the shots he drops them with they don't see coming as they are in a combination and he does it while on the move. He is the most fluid heavy out there and is still improving. He will be lighter on his feet against Wlad as he admitted he only trained for 5 weeks for Hammer as Hammer was only a journeyman.
Ali dropped fighters without being a puncher. Its the sharpness and speed and being able to put more than two shots together that will trouble Wlad. He's ok against plodding one two fighters but those who can move and punch in combination will beat him. Like I said also, he's going to struggle to land against Tyson more so than anyone else he's fought.
Maybe. I only really started being vocal about Fury when I could see so much rubbish being posted about him. It annoyed me that he was clearly better than some were willing to give him credit for.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabongooooff it is going to hurt when you fall back to earthQuote:
Originally Posted by rossYour wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
I believe Fury had power. If he didnt, people like Chisora would have walked through him. He drops and hurts people without trying, the shots he drops them with they don't see coming as they are in a combination and he does it while on the move. He is the most fluid heavy out there and is still improving. He will be lighter on his feet against Wlad as he admitted he only trained for 5 weeks for Hammer as Hammer was only a journeyman.
Ali dropped fighters without being a puncher. Its the sharpness and speed and being able to put more than two shots together that will trouble Wlad. He's ok against plodding one two fighters but those who can move and punch in combination will beat him. Like I said also, he's going to struggle to land against Tyson more so than anyone else he's fought.
The truth is he is skilled. He's the only heavyweight out there that can put a cohesive combination together, mixing uppercuts and hooks that actually land and not just straight left, right, left, right. He doesn't stunt his work by being too close or far away, he can actually fight on the inside which is a feat in itself given his size and he can move around the ring like a light heavy. He's not just relying on size, he has skills and more people are having their eyes opened by actually watching him rather than taking in all the shit written about him.
It will hurt you more when you lot watch him beat Wlad I can assure you, like everything you ever believed in crashing around you;)
;D
I said that Wladimir is a serious opponent compared with Geroge Foreman...Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGBStop talking shit... His most serious opponent to date was a cruiserweight who would have weighed in as a heavyweight during Ali's era. Not one of Fury's opponents fits the archetype of today's super heavyweight at anything resembling an elite level.Quote:
Originally Posted by Max Power
You seriously think Chisora compares favourably to George Foreman?! Hahaha...
There we have it folks...
Foreman - Lummox
Chisora - serious opponent
:vd:
Without a doubt one of the top 3 stupidest things I have ever read on this site. This is what happens when you try to awkwardly shoehorn an insult about a fighter you dislike into an entirely unrelated discussion... Give an idiot enough rope and he will hang himself with it.
And in Chisora's defence, he is simply a much larger and stronger version of Joe Frazier.
Except Fury did not LOSE to HIS Frazier.
You're talking rubbish again. Chisora might have more weight on him than Frazier, but the size advantaged Fury enjoyed over Chisora completely eclipses any size advantage that Ali had... That's why Ali lost to 'HIS Chisora' :rolleyes:
Joe Frazier
height: 5 foot 11
reach: 73"
Weight: 205
Muhammad Ali
height: 6 foot 3
reach: 78"
Weight: 215
Height difference: 4"
Reach difference: 5"
Weight difference: 10lb
Dereck Chisora
Height: 6 foot 1
Reach: 74"
Weight: 241lb
Tyson Fury
Height: 6 foot 9
Reach: 85"
Weight: 265lb
Height difference: 8"
Reach difference: 11"
Weight difference: 24lb
:vd:
Over twice the advantage... That's gargantuan...
I just watched Tyson Fury vs Christian Hammer....:spit: ridiculous, Tyson Fury may not even be a top 10 heavyweight based on that performance
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Originally Posted by El Kabong
Hmm bitter.
I sense you need a saucer of milk;)
I've seen Fury fight Hammer and I've seen Mariusz Wach fight Hammer....much more impressed with Wach than FuryQuote:
Originally Posted by rossQuote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Hmm bitter.
I sense you need a saucer of milk;)
Really!!!?Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongI've seen Fury fight Hammer and I've seen Mariusz Wach fight Hammer....much more impressed with Wach than FuryQuote:
Originally Posted by rossQuote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Hmm bitter.
I sense you need a saucer of milk;)
Other than the ending Wach was getting beaten!
Fury was in absolute control without even a full camp. You gotta take those Klitschko goggles off before Tyson slaps em off;D
" Fury was in absolute control without even a full camp. "
Ross, I noticed you alluded to this the other day, but I never commented because I was busy having a nice friendly discussion with adamGB that went on a bit.;)
I think you said Fury only had a 5 week camp because he knew Hammer was a journeyman that wouldn't bother him. if this is right then either Fury is a bullshitter, or he is extremely unprofessional. If he cuts corners now when he's supposed to be hungry to get to the top, how do we know he's not going to keep doing that?
Now a lot of people hate Mayweather , and that's fine, but he would never dream of not putting a serious camp in whoever he was fighting, and when he's asked about a future fight, I've seen him always give the same answer.... "we're not looking ahead of this fight." with all the money he's got and all he's achieved, it would be much easier for him to slack of mentally or physically, but it just don't happen.
now , you might think that it's an unfair comparison, but if Fury is to get the World domination that you think and beats the Klitschko's and Wilder's of this world , then that would be what he's compared with.
can't see it happening myself.