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Hatton became under rated when he flattend out, but he never really aimed seriously past the pinnacle that was Kostya. You have to hand it to him,it was one of the longest visions that became a reality through hard work.
Him beating Vince Phillips was part of the psychology behind the taking down of Tszyu, outside of the ring.(A tactic the Champion Tszyu did with all his main opponents before,he would get into their heads somehow ever so subtlety) and would build a win around it. KT should of done the job on Vince but couldnt then wouldnt. Ricky also aimed to move on each ex opponent in a fuller way than Kostya did so he was always chiseling away at the mountain Kostya had built (Thats what got him the end result,his dream fight). Then the younger man beat the older one by playing his own ring game. That balanced out what happened to Chavez previously when facing the younger Tszyu the greatest at 140 ever.
I also recon this period (Tszyu's) was the most exiting in boxing ever. 140 was lit up, 135 was lit up 147 lit up, and Roy lit up the mid to light, while the Feather weights and the bantams were all having greater wars than any of the higher weights.

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Originally Posted by Primo Carnera

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Originally Posted by AdamGB

Right hand through the middle.

You can be a pedant over the specific type (in this case it was a short right hand, almost a hook... but unlike you I won't be a pedant over your naming of it as a straight) but the fact remains that the same vulnerability has seen Manny eat dozens of dozens of RIGHT HANDS...

Overhand, short, straight, cross... Doesn't matter the type, he's very open to the right hand down the middle and ALWAYS HAS BEEN.

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The reason I quoted the specific type was because YOU said that they were the same punch. if you had said that Pac leaves himself open to being caught by a right hand, I might agree.

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I know, I already said you were being pedantic over something as trivial as the specific type of right hand and my phrasing instead of conceding the actual point.

Pac has left himself open to, walked onto and been baited into leaving gaps for dozens of right hands throughout his career. I'd hardly call it a 'moment of carelessness', if you keep making the same mistake over and over then one day you will pay for it.

Your bad habits only get worse when you're taken into deep water and that's what JMM did.

Should I also be a fellow pedant and point out that I didn't say EXACT same punch, or shall we agree that getting hung up on exact wording is moot?

You don't have to say EXACT for my benefit.

Really? I thought I had to spell things out to the letter for you to stop them going over your head, now you're telling me I don't actually have to be too precise? ??? Which is it? :-\

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Originally Posted by Andre

Hatton became under rated when he flattend out, but he never really aimed seriously past the pinnacle that was Kostya. You have to hand it to him,it was one of the longest visions that became a reality through hard work.
Him beating Vince Phillips was part of the psychology behind the taking down of Tszyu, outside of the ring.(A tactic the Champion Tszyu did with all his main opponents before,he would get into their heads somehow ever so subtlety) and would build a win around it. KT should of done the job on Vince but couldnt then wouldnt. Ricky also aimed to move on each ex opponent in a fuller way than Kostya did so he was always chiseling away at the mountain Kostya had built (Thats what got him the end result,his dream fight). Then the younger man beat the older one by playing his own ring game. That balanced out what happened to Chavez previously when facing the younger Tszyu the greatest at 140 ever.
I also recon this period (Tszyu's) was the most exiting in boxing ever. 140 was lit up, 135 was lit up 147 lit up, and Roy lit up the mid to light, while the Feather weights and the bantams were all having greater wars than any of the higher weights.

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I think my opinion of Hatton had always been unpopular I never saw him as the P4P superstar many did, with the help of the ref he was able to wrestle a rusty and past prime Tyszu into submission, he looked flat against a lot of fighters who a true p4p fighter really shouldn't have, got Castillo at the right time (but did land a beautiful body shot to stop him), his 147 title was gifted to him and he 'boxed' a stupid fight against Manny... Lunging straight forward with his hands down and his chin up.

Don't get me wrong, solid career and he always gave his all. I just think he was overhyped and not the calibre most British fans want to believe. I just wish he'd taken his lifestyle a bit more seriously and continued work on his skills after he'd landed on the world stage instead of buying into his own hype of being this relentless raging bull.

Floyd should not be undefeated :p

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Originally Posted by AdamGB

Really? I thought I had to spell things out to the letter for you to stop them going over your head, now you're telling me I don't actually have to be too precise? ??? Which is it? :-\

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Like I said, you don't have to use exact , Same will do for me. Same means SAME, you don't have to emphasise it with EXACT.
So let's make it clear an overhead swinging Right is the SAME punch as a Straight Right? And with one , Manny was moving backwards, while the other, he walks straight onto it.
So does that mean an uppercut and a jab are the SAME punch as well.
After all, I'm led to believe that you're the Boxer so you tell me. :rolleyes:

People live to hate on Mayweather, he plays a great villain so that's a very popular opinion. :)

Margarito was paid/blackmailed into letting Pacquiao beat the shit out of him.

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Originally Posted by AdamGB

People live to hate on Mayweather, he plays a great villain so that's a very popular opinion. :)

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I'm not hating but Floyd could arguably have at least 3 Loses ;)

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Originally Posted by Primo Carnera

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Originally Posted by AdamGB

Really? I thought I had to spell things out to the letter for you to stop them going over your head, now you're telling me I don't actually have to be too precise? ??? Which is it? :-\

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Like I said, you don't have to use exact , Same will do for me. Same means SAME, you don't have to emphasise it with EXACT.
So let's make it clear an overhead swinging Right is the SAME punch as a Straight Right? And with one , Manny was moving backwards, while the other, he walks straight onto it.
So does that mean an uppercut and a jab are the SAME punch as well.
After all, I'm led to believe that you're the Boxer so you tell me. :rolleyes:

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A Ford Fiesta and an Opel Corsa are not the exact same car, but they are the same type of car... If I drive a hatchback into you, I don't really think you'll care if it was a Corsa or a Fiesta, the fact that you've spent a lifetime not looking when you cross the road is probably more important.

If you want to get excited because I said same punch instead of 'type' of punch then that's your problem, like I said... I underestimated the intelligence of my audience, next time I'll write it out in precise detail for you and use big colour pictures.

Only an idiot could watch a 9 minute (I'm sure you'll correct me, was it not precisely 9 minutes?) montage of Pac getting continually hit by a variety of right hands, in a variety of situations and by a variety of punchers and call it a 'careless, one off mistake' when he inevitably got KO'd by one eventually. :vd:

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Originally Posted by AdamGB

People live to hate on Mayweather, he plays a great villain so that's a very popular opinion. :)

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I'm not hating but Floyd could arguably have at least 3 Loses ;)

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Not saying you're hating, just that a lot of people like your opinion ;)

Lomachenko did not belong anywhere near a title grab in his professional debut. It was a sham of a hand holding to a showcase spotlight that blew up in Arums face and I'm glad he lost. I don't care if you shat Gold medals at 3 AM on the porcelain bowl.

Antonio Margarito owns a plaster moulding company and sometimes forgets to wash his hands after a shift and before a fight.