Re: Who was the most self-destructive in their careers?
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beenKOed
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Beanflicker
Roberto Duran and James Toney deserve mentions for eating their way into weight divisions they had no business fighting in, and putting on the occasional shitty performance from being under trained.
How about George Foreman for fighting the stupidest fight possible against Ali?
Hindsight is 20/20. Here you are, a young man, a guy who blasted Ali's conquerers like Frazier and Norton out in 2 rounds, the HW champ of the world, A-level fighters disintegrating under your fists, and now you're fighting a former champ in his 30s, a guy who everyone says is well past his prime, who's had life and death battles with Ken Norton where he's had his jaw completely shattered... knowing all that you'd probably be pretty confident you can blast this old guy out in a few rounds like everyone else.
Re: Who was the most self-destructive in their careers?
The ones that made it to the top then crashed it? Spinks , Tyson come to mind. Almost mayweather Is another playing with it.
Re: Who was the most self-destructive in their careers?
Gotta throw Golota's name in the mix. Especially if we're talking inside the ropes.
The quit job against Michael Grant & getting DQ'd twice against Bowe. Ahead on points in all three fights then self-destructed.
Re: Who was the most self-destructive in their careers?
Guys like Jose L Lopez, Randall. Douglas. Self sabotage by different methods etc. Oh and Alex Garcia..you should have taken the gamble and massive Foreman payday :-X. Mike Alvarado most recently..anyone who has seen addiction and watched that interview knew he was strung out.
Re: Who was the most self-destructive in their careers?
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Ike Ibeabuchi, he was a title holder when he got in trouble....he at the very least had fights vs Lewis and Holyfield ahead of him, maybe Tyson as well, who knows.
Johnny Tapia I mean how could he NOT be listed here?
'Kid Dynamite' Danny Romero is another than never reached his potential
Kelly Pavlik, alcohol abuse did a number on him
Meldrick Taylor, super slick boxer but just CHOSE to go to war, really hurt his career.
Any number of drugged out wash-ups especially heavyweights of the late 80's early 90's
Ike was railroaded by a lying hooker in Vegas & a suspiciously corrupt justice system
Any man kept heavily sedated for 14 months before going to trial because they were apparently "scared of what he MIGHT do"is going to develop mental problems
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Was it boneheaded, stupidity or not?
I guess what I'm saying is that I can't blame him for thinking that he could blast Ali out early like he had with almost everyone else, even though in hindsight obviously it was the wrong choice. But yeah he was definitely boneheaded in letting Ali get under his skin and play him into his hands.
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C.J.Rock
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El Kabong
Ike Ibeabuchi, he was a title holder when he got in trouble....he at the very least had fights vs Lewis and Holyfield ahead of him, maybe Tyson as well, who knows.
Johnny Tapia I mean how could he NOT be listed here?
'Kid Dynamite' Danny Romero is another than never reached his potential
Kelly Pavlik, alcohol abuse did a number on him
Meldrick Taylor, super slick boxer but just CHOSE to go to war, really hurt his career.
Any number of drugged out wash-ups especially heavyweights of the late 80's early 90's
Ike was railroaded by a lying hooker in Vegas & a suspiciously corrupt justice system
Any man kept heavily sedated for 14 months before going to trial because they were apparently "scared of what he MIGHT do"is going to develop mental problems
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Yeah? Well I guess the OTHER lying hooker/escort with a similar story was ALSO trying to railroad him. As for his mental stability, how's about the time when Ike abducted the child he had with a former girlfriend and drove head first into a concrete abutment so now the child will never walk normally and suffered numerous injuries. Cedrick Kushner tried wining and dining an HBO Boxing exec with Ike at a fancy restaurant when all of a sudden Ike brandishes a large knife and starts yelling 'They knew it! They knew it! The belts belong to me! Why don't they just give them back?'
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Frankie 'The Tiger' Benitez
Wilfred's older brother.
Frankie was faster and punched harder than Wilfred, but was 'not' the technical genius
that his younger brother was.
A lack of dedication to training, and 'drugs' got to him in late-1975, and he ended up
destroying himself.
He had bouts lined up with Roberto Duran and Antonio Cervantes for 1975, and
he blew both of them.
Re: Who was the most self-destructive in their careers?
'Drugs' as opposed to just Drugs?
