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But he sure as shit is not 'Canadian' is he.
He does hold Canadian citizenship.
I'm not doubting that he's a British citizen - he holds dual citizenship for England and Canada. He was born in England, spent his early years there, went back to hang out in his adulthood, ect.
I just question what England had to do with creating Lennox the boxer.
Like I said...
Born to Jamaican parents, which accounts for his size and athletic ability.
Learned to box in Canada, represented Canada in the Olympics and won a gold medal.
As a pro, was brought to greatness by American trainers.
I don't get it.
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It was lucky that old Lenny was never born in Canada, in his opinion he'd had never had a chance of being a boxer as the place is full of wimps.
That makes a hell of a lot of sense.
I mean he spent 13 years NOT boxing in England, then came to Canada and started boxing almost right away. But yeah, I see your point, there's no way he would have become a boxer had he been born in Canada. ;D
Imagine if he stayed over in England. He'd have been another clog in a long line of chinless, garbage HWs. He'd be like Price, getting knocked out by every man with a decent punch and crying in the ring.
Lennox would have been a success no matter where he lived or even learned to box. Too good not to be.
I understand you saying that he learned to box in Canada and that his gold is in the credit column of the Canadian system not the GB system. Obviously. But that's not the same as being Canadian. As I'm sure you know.
Also, do remember, Canada are shit at most things so I think we can chalk his success to the man himself rather than the talent that one naturally gains by spending time in Canada.
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Nothing against England, I'm sure it's a nice place.
In fact, my grandmother is from Hull so really I have more English blood than Lennox does!
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ryanman
I think we can chalk his success to the man himself rather than the talent that one naturally gains by spending time in Canada.
If England had a long history of developing great HW's, I'd agree with you. But I think it's a bit too coincidental that when an Englishman leaves the UK and trains elsewhere, suddenly he becomes one of the top 5 greatest HWs of all time.
Audley Harrison had all the genetic gifts Lennox did, and he was shite.
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ryanman
But he sure as shit is not 'Canadian' is he.
He does hold Canadian citizenship.
I'm not doubting that he's a British citizen - he holds dual citizenship for England and Canada. He was born in England, spent his early years there, went back to hang out in his adulthood, ect.
I just question what England had to do with creating Lennox the boxer.
Like I said...
Born to Jamaican parents, which accounts for his size and athletic ability.
Learned to box in Canada, represented Canada in the Olympics and won a gold medal.
As a pro, was brought to greatness by American trainers.
I don't get it.
He learned to box in Canada. 'You' (as in your system) can have the credit there. But you normally say 'He's Canadian'. That's what I argue.
In individual sport the credit belongs to the person and his support team/coaches. In amateur boxing that support team will be of the nation of residence. He came up through the Canadian system and that gold belongs to Canada. That medal is for Canada and is a tick in a column for the Canadian AM system.
But once you turn pro in boxing you're not representing a national team, nor a system. He was born in Britain. Considers himself British. Lived here for longer than anywhere else. That's why he is considered by most to be British. I'm not pretending that he came through the British system. But to the question - who is the best British heavy? Well, he is British, and he was a heavy.
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ryanman
I think we can chalk his success to the man himself rather than the talent that one naturally gains by spending time in Canada.
If England had a long history of developing great HW's, I'd agree with you. But I think it's a bit too coincidental that when an Englishman leaves the UK and trains elsewhere, suddenly he becomes one of the top 5 greatest HWs of all time.
Audley Harrison had all the genetic gifts Lennox did, and he was shite.
Except for a much much smaller heart. And less powerful right hand. And less imposing jab. Slower too.
Let's not insult the man. ;)
Also, if and when Joshua smashes everyone, are you going to have revisit your theory retrospectively?
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Beanflicker
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ryanman
But he sure as shit is not 'Canadian' is he.
He does hold Canadian citizenship.
I'm not doubting that he's a British citizen - he holds dual citizenship for England and Canada. He was born in England, spent his early years there, went back to hang out in his adulthood, ect.
I just question what England had to do with creating Lennox the boxer.
Like I said...
Born to Jamaican parents, which accounts for his size and athletic ability.
Learned to box in Canada, represented Canada in the Olympics and won a gold medal.
As a pro, was brought to greatness by American trainers.
I don't get it.
you sound bitter
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ryanman
Also, if and when Joshua smashes everyone, are you going to have revisit your theory retrospectively?
Depends who's around. The post-Wlad HW era looks pretty shitty. Maybe he can dominate a weak era, but I know better than to put money on a British HW.
I just saw a British HW Olympic medalist get destroyed by a fat unknown German over the weekend.
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ryanman
Also, if and when Joshua smashes everyone, are you going to have revisit your theory retrospectively?
Depends who's around. The post-Wlad HW era looks pretty shitty. Maybe he can dominate a weak era, but I know better than to put money on a British HW.
I just saw a British HW Olympic medalist get destroyed by a fat unknown German over the weekend.
Teper was ripped. Under the large amount of fat he is VERY low body fat. Incredible physique. It's just hard to see it.
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Nothing against England, I'm sure it's a nice place.
In fact, my grandmother is from Hull so really I have more English blood than Lennox does!
That explains a lot. Shit Hole. It's a well known fact that the further North you go, the more effeminate and feeble the men become. That's why Lennox was born in London and not Carlisle. If he had been born in Cornwall he would never have lost to McCall or Rahman and would have obliterated Holyfield at the first attempt.
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It was lucky that old Lenny was never born in Canada, in his opinion he'd had never had a chance of being a boxer as the place is full of wimps.
That makes a hell of a lot of sense.
I mean he spent 13 years NOT boxing in England, then came to Canada and started boxing almost right away. But yeah, I see your point, there's no way he would have become a boxer had he been born in Canada. ;D
Imagine if he stayed over in England. He'd have been another clog in a long line of chinless, garbage HWs. He'd be like Price, getting knocked out by every man with a decent punch and crying in the ring.
London Lenny said it not me.
Brits are fearless with massive bollocks. Canadians are massive pussies. Bit harsh, but that's his opinion.
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Beanflicker
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Fenster
It was lucky that old Lenny was never born in Canada, in his opinion he'd had never had a chance of being a boxer as the place is full of wimps.
That makes a hell of a lot of sense.
I mean he spent 13 years NOT boxing in England, then came to Canada and started boxing almost right away. But yeah, I see your point, there's no way he would have become a boxer had he been born in Canada. ;D
Imagine if he stayed over in England. He'd have been another clog in a long line of chinless, garbage HWs. He'd be like Price, getting knocked out by every man with a decent punch and crying in the ring.
London Lenny said it not me.
Brits are fearless with massive bollocks. Canadians are massive pussies. Bit harsh, but that's his opinion.
;D
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Fenster
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Beanflicker
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Fenster
It was lucky that old Lenny was never born in Canada, in his opinion he'd had never had a chance of being a boxer as the place is full of wimps.
That makes a hell of a lot of sense.
I mean he spent 13 years NOT boxing in England, then came to Canada and started boxing almost right away. But yeah, I see your point, there's no way he would have become a boxer had he been born in Canada. ;D
Imagine if he stayed over in England. He'd have been another clog in a long line of chinless, garbage HWs. He'd be like Price, getting knocked out by every man with a decent punch and crying in the ring.
London Lenny said it not me.
Brits are fearless with massive bollocks. Canadians are massive pussies. Bit harsh, but that's his opinion.
That ain't the quote I heard.
As a matter of fact, Lennox claims that he started boxing because the Canadian kids were beating the shit out of him. Apparently nobody in London whipped his ass, because he never felt the need to box.
Funny he felt the need to learn how to defend himself in such a "pussy" country... hahaha!
In all seriousness, our national game is hockey. We are the best in the world at it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaaol5qapgA
Your national game is soccer/football/footie/sissyball. And you guys aren't even in the top 5 in the world.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-b6875gzR0
So please, let's get real here. London is full of sissies and produces very mediocre fighters.
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Greenbeanz
Shit Hole.
Yes, the whole country of England is a shit hole filled with effeminate men.
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Beanflicker
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Fenster
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Originally Posted by
Beanflicker
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
It was lucky that old Lenny was never born in Canada, in his opinion he'd had never had a chance of being a boxer as the place is full of wimps.
That makes a hell of a lot of sense.
I mean he spent 13 years NOT boxing in England, then came to Canada and started boxing almost right away. But yeah, I see your point, there's no way he would have become a boxer had he been born in Canada. ;D
Imagine if he stayed over in England. He'd have been another clog in a long line of chinless, garbage HWs. He'd be like Price, getting knocked out by every man with a decent punch and crying in the ring.
London Lenny said it not me.
Brits are fearless with massive bollocks. Canadians are massive pussies. Bit harsh, but that's his opinion.
That ain't the quote I heard.
As a matter of fact, Lennox claims that he started boxing because the Canadian kids were beating the shit out of him. Apparently nobody in London whipped his ass, because he never felt the need to box.
Funny he felt the need to learn how to defend himself in such a "pussy" country... hahaha!
In all seriousness, our national game is hockey. We are the best in the world at it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaaol5qapgA
Your national game is soccer/football/footie/sissyball. And you guys aren't even in the top 5 in the world.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-b6875gzR0
So please, let's get real here. London is full of sissies and produces very mediocre fighters.
Yeah, only about 10 countries play hockey to any serious extent.
You want to do a sport by sport comparison between the two countries?
I'm encyclopedic about such things.
