Is Wladimir Klitschko a "Warrior" like Holyfield/Frazier/Marciano?

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Originally Posted by Mark TKO

A gun shy champion who uses the tools he has to maximum effect - but never set the world alight doing it, despite having major size advantage in most fights. I'm trying to recall some Wlad victories by first or second round knockouts ??

Haye couldn't knock him out when he claimed he would but let's not forget Wlad said he'd knock out Haye too.

Had he been a few inches shorter he would have been an also ran.

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What I been saying all along. If he couldn't lean back that one extra inch (bigger dudes like sanders caught his ass good) he'd have been KTFO!!!!! LONG AGO

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Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

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Originally Posted by Mark TKO

A gun shy champion who uses the tools he has to maximum effect - but never set the world alight doing it, despite having major size advantage in most fights. I'm trying to recall some Wlad victories by first or second round knockouts ??

Haye couldn't knock him out when he claimed he would but let's not forget Wlad said he'd knock out Haye too.

Had he been a few inches shorter he would have been an also ran.

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What I been saying all along. If he couldn't lean back that one extra inch (bigger dudes like sanders caught his ass good) he'd have been KTFO!!!!! LONG AGO

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If Granny had bollocks , I'd be calling her Grandad! It is what it is. Not everybody can be a brawling street fighter type that excites us, but we have to respect the skill he has.
I don't like the hugging, and especially against Povetkin , I had reservations about whether the ref was a plant. That was disgraceful, but Wlad can box , he didn't hug Pulev much, he put him away. And a lot of people were saying Pulev would be a tough fight.
We have to remember there is an art to Boxing and the idea is to hit and not get hit. Should he go out and take punches just for our benefit?
If you ask many brawlers or exciting fighters how they would prefer to fight if they could choose, and most would say that if they could, they would rather be the skilful classy type that doesn't get hit much.

You know those little fags and dweebs who sit in a little underground bunker in Nevada and push buttons and send these remote laser-guided bombs in to pinpoint precision targets in Afghanistan. ?
They cannot be touched. That is not an even a war. That is not a fair and balanced battle. I do not have respect for quote unquote warfare like that

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Originally Posted by Primo Carnera

If Granny had bollocks , I'd be calling her Grandad! It is what it is. Not everybody can be a brawling street fighter type that excites us, but we have to respect the skill he has.

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Yes agreed - I'm just saying. That's the heavyweight division for you - unfortunately you can be fighting a huge motherfucker who you can't compete with physically.

I'm 5' 7 and if I had a fight with Danny DeVito , 5'0, when he was the same age as me I'd be embarrassed if I didn't blow him away in the first round never mind the second.

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Originally Posted by Mark TKO

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Originally Posted by Primo Carnera

If Granny had bollocks , I'd be calling her Grandad! It is what it is. Not everybody can be a brawling street fighter type that excites us, but we have to respect the skill he has.

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Yes agreed - I'm just saying. That's the heavyweight division for you - unfortunately you can be fighting a huge motherfucker who you can't compete with physically.

I'm 5' 7 and if I had a fight with Danny DeVito , 5'0, when he was the same age as me I'd be embarrassed if I didn't blow him away in the first round never mind the second.

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Originally Posted by Mark TKO

This what?

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Meaning I agreed with you

Ah . Thought you'd passed out at your keyboard and your head fallen and hit the submit button early

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Originally Posted by Mark TKO

Ah . Thought you'd passed out at your keyboard and your head fallen and hit the submit button early

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It wouldn't be the first time haha

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Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

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Originally Posted by Mark TKO

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Originally Posted by Primo Carnera

If Granny had bollocks , I'd be calling her Grandad! It is what it is. Not everybody can be a brawling street fighter type that excites us, but we have to respect the skill he has.

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Yes agreed - I'm just saying. That's the heavyweight division for you - unfortunately you can be fighting a huge motherfucker who you can't compete with physically.

I'm 5' 7 and if I had a fight with Danny DeVito , 5'0, when he was the same age as me I'd be embarrassed if I didn't blow him away in the first round never mind the second.

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I understand what you're saying , but when you get to between say, 230 lbs and 260 lbs and 6 foot 3 and 6 foot 7, they can all bang hard enough to knock you out. So Wlad's 1st priority is to not put himself in a position to get KTFO . That may be negative, but he succeeds because of his jab and all round skillset.
I admit the Povetkin fight annoyed me because I thought he might be the one to challenge Wlad, and he must've been mega frustrated. He would've been better off getting DQ'd .

@Primo Carnera

I agree both brothers are definitely Superstars and have dominated divisions for years. You know I will never take that away from them and I would not want to get into the ring with either one of them. Probably because a little sarcasm here probably because I can't stand a man hugging me 45 minutes haha.

That bastard really should have been DQed in his last fight or was that two fights ago. You see that's the problem he hasn't really had any memorable fights. When you think of Joe Frazier you remember the first fight with ali.
you remember his Thrilla in Manila all fighters I've had super fights. But Gladimir has never had a super fight all of his fights are snoozefest and it is mostly his fault. So f*** him

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Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

@Primo Carnera

I agree both brothers are definitely Superstars and have dominated divisions for years. You know I will never take that away from them and I would not want to get into the ring with either one of them. Probably because a little sarcasm here probably because I can't stand a man hugging me 45 minutes haha.

That bastard really should have been DQed in his last fight or was that two fights ago. You see that's the problem he hasn't really had any memorable fights. When you think of Joe Frazier you remember the first fight with ali.
you remember his Thrilla in Manila all fighters I've had super fights. But Gladimir has never had a super fight all of his fights are snoozefest and it is mostly his fault. So f*** him

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Fair comment.

Wladimir has a ton of heart. He was stopped, but never KOed and counted out. He's never quit in a fight.

And when everybody even his own brother told him to retire after the Brewster loss, he came back and has had one of the greatest runs in heavyweight history during the past 11 years. That is a clear indication of his warrior spirit.

a perfect example of wlads warrior spirit is the Haye/Povetkin fights. lol.

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Originally Posted by #1FightFan

a perfect example of wlads warrior spirit is the Haye/Povetkin fights. lol.

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