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WOOOOOOAAAAAAH IaminuitQuote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
Have you boxed? Because if not.....then I'd just step aside and let ross, the genius of all things boxing.....he used to box ya know....oooh and he was a "ronery" judge too, isn't that right ross
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpgDVlKdlwI
Sooo lonely :eek:
And to put things into perspective, Wlad by the same recorder landed 52 of 231 which is also 23% so you have a total of 138 punches landed in a world championship fight over 12 rounds and thats exaggerrated by a flawed system. Thats pathetic. In his prime Wlad was capable of 50 a round.
Nobodys life or health is threatened in a rematch period.
Are you serious? I hadnt seen the Wlad Punch count. 231?? Rocky Marciano used to throw 231 punches EVERY 2 ROUNDS!!! DAMN!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
They should withhold his entire purse for that.
in case we all forgot what ACTION was:::
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0er2lGRYqX8
Hold on! What are you on about?Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitCut the bullshit name calling and I could give to shits what those othert clowns landed. The fact is, there is no freakin worry in this world or any other for Wlad to fear for his safety based on that display. Unlike you I can look at something from both sides of the coin and give both praise and resonable criticism at the same time and if you cant then shut you pie-hole.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossThats Pathetic?Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
What did Jennings, Pulev, Povetkin and Haye land?
Now thats pathetic!:rolleyes:
Fucking morons!
;D
Moron!
Where have I not given credit to Wlad?
Those other "world class fighters" couldnt land anything on Wlad because he was too good for them.
Tyson couldnt land everything on him because Wlad is the 2nd best heavy in the world.
Tyson busted Wlads face up. Show me any other fight where Wlads face looked as bad afterwards. You thnk thats good for his health?;D;D;D
Name calling? If you dont like it dont talk shit!
How many punches would Marciano get off against Tyson?;DQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustAre you serious? I hadnt seen the Wlad Punch count. 231?? Rocky Marciano used to throw 231 punches EVERY 2 ROUNDS!!! DAMN!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
They should withhold his entire purse for that.
I didn't think I had any bet about changing names , I will go look at the thread.
We all did Al.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
.........We all did*
*according to ross
I felt sorry for you and gave you a reprieve on condition you change your name and avatar. It was either that or be a cunt and let @Master ban you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
he'd get off 90 a round as he always did. Now how many would land is another story. Rocky would need a step-ladder just to land a body shot on fury!Quote:
Originally Posted by rosshow many punches would marciano get off against tyson?;dQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustare you serious? I hadnt seen the wlad punch count. 231?? Rocky marciano used to throw 231 punches every 2 rounds!!! Damn!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by iaminuit
They should withhold his entire purse for that.
Bwaaaaaaaahahahahaha
That’s the best you can muster? That is it? Look I look past the daily antagonism you display but claiming fact is talking shit crosses that line between 2 digit intelligence quotients and 3.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossHold on! What are you on about?Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitCut the bullshit name calling and I could give to shits what those othert clowns landed. The fact is, there is no freakin worry in this world or any other for Wlad to fear for his safety based on that display. Unlike you I can look at something from both sides of the coin and give both praise and resonable criticism at the same time and if you cant then shut you pie-hole.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossThats Pathetic?Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
What did Jennings, Pulev, Povetkin and Haye land?
Now thats pathetic!:rolleyes:
Fucking morons!
;D
Moron!
Where have I not given credit to Wlad?
Those other "world class fighters" couldnt land anything on Wlad because he was too good for them.
Tyson couldnt land everything on him because Wlad is the 2nd best heavy in the world.
Tyson busted Wlads face up. Show me any other fight where Wlads face looked as bad afterwards. You thnk thats good for his health?;D;D;D
Name calling? If you dont like it dont talk shit!
So you just keep calling people names instead of responding with anything coherent and embellishing this fight to the point of not being able to even stay on the simplest idea behind individual threads. The TOPIC. The daily childish rants and silly site banning bets don’t change the facts to shit. They validate them.
I will endeavour to live by the maxim to “never argue with and idiot because they will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience” or more fitting for this forum as Mark Twain wrote. “never argue with an idiot, onlookers won’t be able to tell the difference”
Take your choice.
To the actual participant in the dialogue I say this; it’s beyond ridiculous to suggest that Wlads life is in imminent danger or his heath because of a rematch. The numbers themselves suggest otherwise. This is not a Limon/Chacon or Tua/Ike encounter. Fury is now set to throw the IBF away and Wlads flying to England. So get the MASH units ready.
Enjoy the thread.
So far nobody has address my point but has neatly skirted around it. The point is that Vlad cannot come in and do the same lackluster b******* for another 12 rounds and expect to be remembered as any kind of a great fighter. Even flat fans would agree right now that if he does another 231 punch out put over the next 12 rounds in the rematch that he would no longer be looked upon with a lot of respect and now would he???. Can I get all wlad fans to at least agree to that??. Let's all just agree to that right now. Would you not agree to that fact that if wladAmir does the same damn thing he did last time as he does in the rematch that he has lost all credibility as a risk-taking desperate pressure fighter?? who could be remembered in a positive way rather than in a lackluster risk-averse overly cautious way that we now all think of him as. ???? My point is and I am still waiting for anybody to address it rather than skirt neatly around it Vladimir is going to have to do something different this time. As the old Einsteinian adage goes "doing the same action over and over and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity." Therefore Vladimir has to come out guns blazing shooting from the hip throwing caution to the wind and throwing that Hail Mary pass so to speak and when he tries to come in like this to redeem himself from his piss poor embarrassing almost comical performance in the first fight he will then leave himself open for that massive massive Tyson Fury uppercut from hell.
With that chandelier crystal-like Glassjaw that he has plus the momentum of him moving in on fury and fury's massive arms getting the leverage on his back foot and throwing that uppercut I can definitely see Vladimir suffering permanent injury.
Inuit I cant be bothered to quote your essays. No one wants to read that shit.
Wlad has perfected a cautious style that still allows him to be dangerous. Hes been stopped 3 times and doesnt have the greatest resiliance. Tyson landing more punches on Wlad than anyone else as an inexperienced challenger proved to be unhealthy for Wlads face. Wait till the rematch (if it happens) cry baby.:eek: why do you ladies get so upset;D
Time for me to make the bet this time ross. I will bet Lyle and anyone else who wants to bet that in the rematch Tyson Fury will KTFO of flat Amir Klitschko out. Who wants to bet??? I am taking on all comers
Yes fucking really Ross. Seriously if you take your head out of the clouds for one minute and breathe some rather less rarefied air you may start to see things with a little bit more perspective.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossReally?Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzTyson Fury is no role model.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustTyson Fury has charisma, personality, and is a great, exciting role model. Spontaneous, fun and happy.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
everything the Robot of Kiev was NOT.:cool::cool:
Tyson has just proved with hard work alone you can achieve the staus as best in the world?
He hasnt had big media hype like Joshua is getting, in fact quite the opposite! Hes had rival promoters, fighters, "fans", little pussies who cant change their names because they lost a bet @Dark Lord Al on forums, boxing writers etc etc etc all deriding him for years!
Hes just beaten the best heavyweight for years through sheer hard work, skill and determination proving if you want something bad enough and willing to put the work in you can achieve it and thats no role model?
Maybe convicted drug dealer Joshua should be? The only blemish Tyson has on his record is a speeding ticket! Maybe Tyson should have lost before he complained about his toes and he can be a hero like Haye! Only heros lose.
Some people will never give him respect and thats fine but get ready to kiss your vaginas better because Tyson is going to continue making a mug of you and the competition!
1. Fury often acts like an idiot, but even for an idiot, threatening a respected journalist (Oliver Holt) who asks a perfectly innocent question and then decides to disagree with your answer and opinion with the following is beyond the pale
Of Holt, Fury says: “See big Shane there? Have a look at big Shane. He’s 6ft 6inch and 25 stone. He’s going to break his jaw completely with one straight right hand. I ain’t going to do it, ‘cos I’ll get in trouble. But the big fellah, there – he’ll annihilate him, won’t he? So Oliver, take a good look at him, ‘cos that’s the face you’re going to see before you hit the deck.”
Fury then points to another member of his entourage: “That’s the face you’re going to see when he’s jumping on your head. What are you going to do to him, Cliff?” The man called Cliff replies: “I’m going to f*** him up.”
Tyson Fury's hatred is a lot more dangerous than his boxing - Telegraph
2. His performances and conditioning leading up to this have hardly set the world on fire and no amount of rose tint is ever going to provide a suitable prescription to right that astigmatism
3. There is no point trying to pretend that he is some kind of Angel and Joshua is some kind of unreformed hoodlum just to make a very weak point. Joshua started boxing very late, did incredibly well to make an Olympic team and no amount of pretending is going to wipe out the fact that he has dealt much more effectively with the limited opposition he has faced than Fury did at the same stage
4. He won on the night by doing very little. What he did he did well and the game plan was genius but all the talk of being a fighting man and going out on his shield could no more be applied to him, than to Haye. In fact considering the huge size discrepancy the fact that Haye is willing to fight any of the modern Giants is proof of a bigger set than the lanky twats he has to fight and that is saying something.