10 guys that would have knocked Floyd's d*ck in the dirt!

I don't agree that he would have gone AWOL.

In his time, Mayweather was far and away the biggest star in boxing PPV views. The vast majority of the buyers are American, and Mayweather was the stand out US fighter in an era dominated by other nationalities.

As the biggest (and only) star, he could fight who he wanted, and the public would buy it.

If Hearns and Leonard were around, he couldn't do that. In fact, Leonard would be the star attraction and could pick terms against Mayweather. Hearns would be a truly dangerous opponent for Mayweather and would probably be his equal in star power.

I do think Floyd was a fighter at heart, and don't agree he would have gone AWOL. He would have had to fight those guys - at lesser pay - to prove his greatness as a fighter.

i have no reason to think that he wouldn't have fought them if he had to, but I'm not convinced he would remain undefeated.

I've met Floyd twice briefly and he was a very nice guy both times!

But the fact is he has a yellow streak from here to Portland Maine and I don't think for a second he'd have gotten into the ring with Tommy Hearns! ;D

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I don't agree that he would have gone AWOL.

In his time, Mayweather was far and away the biggest star in boxing PPV views. The vast majority of the buyers are American, and Mayweather was the stand out US fighter in an era dominated by other nationalities.

As the biggest (and only) star, he could fight who he wanted, and the public would buy it.

If Hearns and Leonard were around, he couldn't do that. In fact, Leonard would be the star attraction and could pick terms against Mayweather. Hearns would be a truly dangerous opponent for Mayweather and would probably be his equal in star power.

I do think Floyd was a fighter at heart, and don't agree he would have gone AWOL. He would have had to fight those guys - at lesser pay - to prove his greatness as a fighter.

i have no reason to think that he wouldn't have fought them if he had to, but I'm not convinced he would remain undefeated.

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By the time Floyd became a star ppv fighter he was light welter and welterweight, some would say past his best, the weight division was not great and he was recognized as the best at the weight eventually.

I think he would have said the A class fighter rubbish to avoid Hearns.

Floyd is a good fighter he did cherry pick simple guys with high milage on the clock.
He basically is a defensive fighter who countets it's his bread and butter,! his fights can be rather boring to watch .
Remember boxing is a sport and it's supposed to be entertaining, Floyd has been in some stinking fights through the years.
He may face a crappy MMA fighter who can't box kipper's,! again maximum profit for very little danger, I would be surprised if McGregor could ko Floyd if he was strapped to a chair.
Floyd is Marmite you love or hate the guy.

Floyd probably wouldn't have gone up to welter if Leonard and hearns were there. He would have claimed to be too small. That isn't a knock on Floyd but the reality that both men were big and skilled. I think Floyd has a better chance against GGG than either of those two.

Think Floyd was an ATG talent/fighter, without a doubt. That being said, agree with those that say Floyd was too small to beat Tommy Hearns or Ray Leonard. That isn't a knock on Floyd, just saying they were too much physically for a guy who started at 130.

Not sure ANYONE knocks Floyd's #%$!! in the dirt, but would match him against the following:
1. Roberto Duran: Formidable blend of savagery, skill, and power proved too much for the larger Ray Leonard in their first fight, would likely cause Floyd fits as well. On the "flip side", Ray fought a stupid fight out of anger, and Floyd was the master at making the other guy fight mad while he remained relaxed. Also, Duran had trouble with fast, master boxers due to slower feet. While I think this fight is extremely close and tough for both, a think the more physical Duran pulls out the decision win.
2. Julio Ceasar Chavez: Jose Luis Castillo was referred to as the "Poor Man's Chavez", and he beat Floyd in their first fight, so imagine what the better, more formidable version would've done!!! Chavez's steady pressure, accurate punches, durability, stamina, strength, and power would've proven difficult to overcome for Pretty Boy. Floyd saved his best performances, however, for his most serious/dangerous challengers, and I don't think this fight would be any different. Think Floyd would take some significant punishment along the way to winning a close decision.
3. Aaron Pryor: Larger fighter who was the epitome of perpetual motion and non-stop punches. Floyd was a master at defense/countering, and Pryor's aggression would've provided numerous scoring and countering opportunities. That being said, Floyd was efficient and economical with his shots and I see Pryor hustling his way to the decision.
4. Meldrick Taylor: Taylor is the one guy I've seen who I feel has the faster hands and feet than Floyd, but tended to be reckless and fight in a Philly style to his own detriment. I think Floyd's discipline and intelligence would win the day in a very tough fight.
5. Sweet Pea Whitaker: Southpaw master boxer/defensive specialist vs orthodox master boxer/defensive specialist. Pea beat better comp in my opinion, while Floyd was slightly better offensively. Not sure I can pick between these two ATGs.
6. Kostya Tszyu: Physically powerful, relentless boxer who had scary power in both hands. Floyd would have some issues in the early rounds but would take over the second half of the fight (after Kostya gassed) for the tough win.
7. Prime Oscar: Jab and size make this a difficult match up for Floyd. If the shot version of Oscar that Floyd fought almost beat him, Prime Oscar would win comfortably. Floyd would make it difficult, have his moments, and take over late, but would come up just short against the bigger man.
8. Prime Mosley: This is a great fight at lightweight. Mosely attacks the body and stays with Floyd through 8 rounds. Floyd's discipline and brilliance in the ring takes over in the championship rounds for a close win.
9. Prime Pac Man: just to please all of the fans who had to wait 5 years too long/late. Closer fight with same result. Floyd still too big and too good to lose to a guy who started at flyweight.
10. Alexis Arguello: Long, lean, classic boxer vs phenom master boxer. Exciting fight throughout, but Floyd proves too good and takes the win.

Roger is a moron. But the smartest thing ever said about boxing was "most people don't know shit about boxing"

This thread gets me thinking about the comparisons between Floyd and SRL.

SRL fought and beat:

Defensive wizard and ATG Wilfredo Benitez.
Knockout artist and ATG Tommy Hearns.
Destruction master and ATG Roberto Duran.
Middleweight king and ATG Marvin Hagler.


No disrespect to Floyd and his own resume, but there are few..... IF ANY fighters out there that can present a resume like that.