Abdul Razak Aryan - Somali refugee ATTACKS 11, Ohio University

The meaning is essentially the same. You want soldiers to have their necks cut open yet take issue with Denilson because he believes in a violent struggle. You are all over the place with your logic.

The US has been at war with half a dozen countries simultaneously. The reality is it is out of control with the war crimes and is thus perpetuating and expanding terror. You guys document the individual acts yet turn a blind eye to the drones and acts of state violence.

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The meaning is essentially the same. You want soldiers to have their necks cut open yet take issue with Denilson because he believes in a violent struggle. You are all over the place with your logic.

The US has been at war with half a dozen countries simultaneously. The reality is it is out of control with the war crimes and is thus perpetuating and expanding terror. You guys document the individual acts yet turn a blind eye to the drones and acts of state violence.

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You are the one whose logic is all over the place. So would you care to try to make the logical connection between the drone strikes in Afghanistan with a refugee from Somalia running over University students with a car Miles? Hmmmmm??

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Originally Posted by Gandalf

The meaning is essentially the same. You want soldiers to have their necks cut open yet take issue with Denilson because he believes in a violent struggle. You are all over the place with your logic.

The US has been at war with half a dozen countries simultaneously. The reality is it is out of control with the war crimes and is thus perpetuating and expanding terror. You guys document the individual acts yet turn a blind eye to the drones and acts of state violence.

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You are the one whose logic is all over the place. So would you care to try to make the logical connection between the drone strikes in Afghanistan with a refugee from Somalia running over University students with a car Miles? Hmmmmm??

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You do realise that drone strikes don't only take place in Afghanistan, right? You do understand that around the world there are around 1000 military bases, secret rendition sites, several secret wars, as well as the obvious and forgotten wars. You don't possibly think that acts of state sponsored terrorism have a correlatory affect on domestic acts of terror? You start all these threads day in day out and seldom look to the source of it all. You call me a shill but you are played like a puppet on a string.

You completely skipped my part about you being a hypocrite when it comes to how you treat Denilson. BTW good job on making me laugh with your post about going to Trump Tower to hand in your resume. Were there any goats there too?

#1 I don't care if you don't believe me about the goat OR Trump Tower resume dropoff. What IN GOD'S NAME would you know about NYC and what's here/what's possible here.

#2 you DO realize that we LET HIM IN FROM SOMALIA IN ORDER TO HELP HIM RIGHT? SO, DO TELL, what is the logical connection between drone strikes in Somalia and this kid being kindly and humanely handed FREE US CITIZENSHIP AND HIS MURSEROUS RAMPAGE rather than what should have been his gratefulness? Hmmmm?

I am too busy laughing to respond to any of that. You crack me up, but I shall try.....Let's assume I have become a citizen of this country and then an unjust act of aggression is carried out on my home country and innocent people are killed, maybe even my family. Do you not think there might be a slight correlation if I get slightly pissed off one day and respond? All this 'We did good for him and helped him' etc is very lovely, but ignores the fact that terrible war crimes have now been carried out and I don't feel welcome any longer in a country that ramps up the hostility through the media and the likes of you daily. In most cases the person would shrug it off and get on with life, but some people snap. You, with these constant threads are taking isolated individuals who snap and try to grandstand and say 'See, see, see, look at what he did!', but you completely disregard the wider context and get childish when people point out your absurdities.

What this guy did is awful, but it is going to happen when you have an illegal drone program, sanctions on every country going, several illegal wars, several secret wars, a 1000 overseas bases, etc etc. Now you could talk about those things and put pressure on your government to get real over those things, but instead you start constant threads on individual acts of barbarity whilst ignoring the wider context. You do it on purpose to push buttons.

I do appreciate the good chuckle you have given me there! Why so kind? It brightened up the rainy day here we are having.

Now then. It is with not the least bit of amusement I see you ~connecting~ ---SOMEHOW!--- drone strikes and a young man who was given FREE US CITIZENSHIP to escape from the clans' infighting in Haargeysa and the warlords' butchery in Mogadishu and decided DESPITE BEING ACCEPTED TO THE GREAT OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY to in his own words BECAUSE OF A LACK OF ZOHAR and MAGHREB prayer space for Muslims on campus RUN OVER 11 INNICENT STUDENTS WITH A VEHICLE and then proceed to STAB THEM WITH A BUTCHER KNIFE.

You guys are going at it good. ;D Who needs Beanz to fight with? ;D

I'll inject my two cents then leave you gents to duel it out.

On the Abdul front:

There's no excuse for that type of terror, and it's up to the government to do everything in its power to stop or at least decrease these occurrences. Trump is a bit extreme, but he's got the right idea about protecting U.S. borders and beefing up immigration controls. I also think we're living in the type of world that requires the U.S. to step up intelligence efforts in its own soil. Call it whatever you will.... it's called self-preservation.

On the international front:

The U.S. needs to stop creating enemies at every turn. There is ZERO need for the U.S. to appoint itself "world policeman". ZERO. Theoretically, as long as there isn't a direct threat against the U.S. or its people, there should be ZERO need for the U.S. to be butting its nose where it's not wanted. Leave other countries be, and let them resolve their own problems. Of course, there is that slight detail called "economic interests." So let's be frank and call a spade a spade. The U.S. butts into other countries affairs a lot of times based on economic special interests. That being the case, they (U.S.) should just come out and say it. "Look... we say we're interested in your internal affairs, but in reality we're just after your oil."

Iraqis are the only ones justified to attack US interests out of retaliation for the Iraq Invasion.

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You guys are going at it good. ;D Who needs Beanz to fight with? ;D

I'll inject my two cents then leave you gents to duel it out.

On the Abdul front:

There's no excuse for that type of terror, and it's up to the government to do everything in its power to stop or at least decrease these occurrences. Trump is a bit extreme, but he's got the right idea about protecting U.S. borders and beefing up immigration controls. I also think we're living in the type of world that requires the U.S. to step up intelligence efforts in its own soil. Call it whatever you will.... it's called self-preservation.

On the international front:

The U.S. needs to stop creating enemies at every turn. There is ZERO need for the U.S. to appoint itself "world policeman". ZERO. Theoretically, as long as there isn't a direct threat against the U.S. or its people, there should be ZERO need for the U.S. to be butting its nose where it's not wanted. Leave other countries be, and let them resolve their own problems. Of course, there is that slight detail called "economic interests." So let's be frank and call a spade a spade. The U.S. butts into other countries affairs a lot of times based on economic special interests. That being the case, they (U.S.) should just come out and say it. "Look... we say we're interested in your internal affairs, but in reality we're just after your oil."

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I agree with that. You reflect well on the need to maintain sensible immigration policies, whilst at the same time honestly appraising the overreach of US foreign policy. The problem is that the word sensible no longer correlates with either of those two areas.

Miles no one would dare to criticize you that you have become as you say a person with a new perspective or a person who has written some rather ridiculous flip-flopping things in the past sometimes bordering on silly or laughable and THEN how you conveniently blamed them on yoir being fickle or having drunk too much alcohol etc.. and NOW that you love to say that people change and that we should move on. I am all for all of those good words but why does it only apply to you? If I would cite a previous post that you made in the past you would say don't dredge that up why bring that back from the past people can change we should move on and try to be better etcetera and that and yet there you are bringing up one of my posts from over 1 year ago about cutting the throats of US soldiers in Afghanistan like rats.

. Isn't that a bit of hypocrisy there? @Gandalf

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Miles no one would dare to criticize you that you have become as you say a person with a new perspective or a person who has written some rather ridiculous flip-flopping things in the past sometimes bordering on silly or laughable and THEN how you conveniently blamed them on yoir being fickle or having drunk too much alcohol etc.. and NOW that
you love to say that people change and that we should move on. I am all for all of those good words but why does it only apply to you? If I would cite a previous post that you made in the past you would say don't dredge that up why bring that back from the past people can change we should move on and try to be better etcetera and that and yet there you are bringing up one of my posts from over 1 year ago about cutting the throats of US soldiers in Afghanistan like rats.

. Isn't that a bit of hypocrisy there? @Gandalf

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All I said was that Denilson made a good post and that we should understand if he has said something stupid sometimes because we have all been there and I include myself in that. You do it all the time lately and people let it slide. Jeremy Corbyn is apparently an 'ass fucker'. Did anyone call you out on it? No. You think Brock must be raving and you ignore it. Brock posts videos of people shitting. People think 'This theme again? Best say nothing'. You are given a very easy time of it really. All I said was maybe you should try to understand Denilson a bit more too.

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Miles no one would dare to criticize you that you have become as you say a person with a new perspective or a person who has written some rather ridiculous flip-flopping things in the past sometimes bordering on silly or laughable and THEN how you conveniently blamed them on yoir being fickle or having drunk too much alcohol etc.. and NOW that
you love to say that people change and that we should move on. I am all for all of those good words but why does it only apply to you? If I would cite a previous post that you made in the past you would say don't dredge that up why bring that back from the past people can change we should move on and try to be better etcetera and that and yet there you are bringing up one of my posts from over 1 year ago about cutting the throats of US soldiers in Afghanistan like rats.

. Isn't that a bit of hypocrisy there? @Gandalf

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All I said was that Denilson made a good post and that we should understand if he has said something stupid sometimes because we have all been there and I include myself in that. You do it all the time lately and people let it slide. Jeremy Corbyn is apparently an 'ass fucker'. Did anyone call you out on it? No. You think Brock must be raving and you ignore it. Brock posts videos of people shitting. People think 'This theme again? Best say nothing'. You are given a very easy time of it really. All I said was maybe you should try to understand Denilson a bit more too.

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You may have missed my countless sincere efforts to reach out to him Miles over the past I'd say 24 months or so. That includes several (literally 4 or 5) private messages and emails. When you sincerely reach out consistently but are met with "I don't trust you, you're white and a suspected white supremacist, I don't care if your ex-wife is a black Brazilian and I don't care if your current white is a dark-skinned Indian, you whites just marry these token black/brown people but in your hearts you still are a racist against them, even if you have children with them IT DOESNT PROVE TO ME YOURE NOT A WHITE SUPREMACIST!". @Gandalf. Seriously.mate, isn't that enough discouragement to preclude giving out rave reviews by that person on other topics? Get real.

Denilson is evil

One more thing mate. I think me and you were raised in different areas with different demographics to say the very least. I have met HUNDREDS of Denilsons over the years when I lived in the 97% Black cities of East Orange, NJ and Irvington, NJ and the Frelinghuysen section of Newark, NJ. I debated on street corners for hours deep in those ghettos late into the nights FOR YEARS, bro. I would guarantee ---- GUARANTEE---- 99% of all white people would never step foot into those neighborhoods, I lived there for 8 years in the early-late 90's at the HEIGHT of the crack epidemic and rampant Blood/Crop gang warfare. I know people intimately who make arguments like Denilson. I have read his posts on racism for a couple years now. Perhaps you would enjoy debating him further. I have PERSONALLY/FIRST-HAND been there/done that exact thing millions of times before with His kind for the better part of a decade. I humbly suspect most whites never have NOR never will, except maybe behind a keyboard.

Crips not Crops, obviously.