Re: Can Joshua become greater than Lennox?
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Ha ha, a thread about Joshua and the long long line of illustrious British heavyweights 😜. It's probably true to say they - at the moment he turned pro - AJ was already at least the second best heavyweight in British heavyweight history!
You could even argue he is the best British produced heavyweight of all time, as Lennox learnt to box and was really produced by the Canadian amateur system and then truly created by Manny Steward.
Yep.
Re: Can Joshua become greater than Lennox?
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Ha ha, a thread about Joshua and the long long line of illustrious British heavyweights 😜. It's probably true to say they - at the moment he turned pro - AJ was already at least the second best heavyweight in British heavyweight history!
You could even argue he is the best British produced heavyweight of all time, as Lennox learnt to box and was really produced by the Canadian amateur system and then truly created by Manny Steward.
Lennox was born here and therefore English the queen.
Re: Can Joshua become greater than Lennox?
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Ha ha, a thread about Joshua and the long long line of illustrious British heavyweights 😜. It's probably true to say they - at the moment he turned pro - AJ was already at least the second best heavyweight in British heavyweight history!
You could even argue he is the best British produced heavyweight of all time, as Lennox learnt to box and was really produced by the Canadian amateur system and then truly created by Manny Steward.
what the fuck are you on about you mong?
Re: Can Joshua become greater than Lennox?
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erics44
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X
Ha ha, a thread about Joshua and the long long line of illustrious British heavyweights 😜. It's probably true to say they - at the moment he turned pro - AJ was already at least the second best heavyweight in British heavyweight history!
You could even argue he is the best British produced heavyweight of all time, as Lennox learnt to box and was really produced by the Canadian amateur system and then truly created by Manny Steward.
what the fuck are you on about you mong?
What do you mean, he's fucking bang on the money. How much Boxing did Lennox do in the UK before he turned Pro? He won an Olympic Gold Medal for CANADA ffs!
The UK is probably Lennox Lewis's 3rd Nationality behind Canada and Jamaica!
Re: Can Joshua become greater than Lennox?
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Primo Carnera
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erics44
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X
Ha ha, a thread about Joshua and the long long line of illustrious British heavyweights 😜. It's probably true to say they - at the moment he turned pro - AJ was already at least the second best heavyweight in British heavyweight history!
You could even argue he is the best British produced heavyweight of all time, as Lennox learnt to box and was really produced by the Canadian amateur system and then truly created by Manny Steward.
what the fuck are you on about you mong?
What do you mean, he's fucking bang on the money. How much Boxing did Lennox do in the UK before he turned Pro? He won an Olympic Gold Medal for CANADA ffs!
The UK is probably Lennox Lewis's 3rd Nationality behind Canada and Jamaica!
so what?
is many pac American? all his best work and best achievements have been under an American trainer after all
and the first sentence/paragraph is just as much stupidity as the second
there aren't half a lot of moaning bastards around here
stop fuckin moaning and have a bit of respect
Re: Can Joshua become greater than Lennox?
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erics44
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Primo Carnera
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erics44
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X
Ha ha, a thread about Joshua and the long long line of illustrious British heavyweights 😜. It's probably true to say they - at the moment he turned pro - AJ was already at least the second best heavyweight in British heavyweight history!
You could even argue he is the best British produced heavyweight of all time, as Lennox learnt to box and was really produced by the Canadian amateur system and then truly created by Manny Steward.
what the fuck are you on about you mong?
What do you mean, he's fucking bang on the money. How much Boxing did Lennox do in the UK before he turned Pro? He won an Olympic Gold Medal for CANADA ffs!
The UK is probably Lennox Lewis's 3rd Nationality behind Canada and Jamaica!
so what?
is many pac American? all his best work and best achievements have been under an American trainer after all
and the first sentence/paragraph is just as much stupidity as the second
there aren't half a lot of moaning bastards around here
stop fuckin moaning and have a bit of respect
I can see you're a bit touchy about this, but you really need to take the rose tinted spectacles off and stop claiming other countries men as yours. that's pretty desperate if you ask me.
No, Manny Pac isn't American, he started his career in the Phillipines, which is where he lived ALL his early life and boxes in the States for the exposure. Furthermore, he doesn't claim to be American and he lives in the Phillipines and actually is a Parliamentary member in his Country, so let's not be pathetic. I suppose GGG and Kov are American?:rolleyes:
And I'm not moaning, I'm just stating facts.
Why do you have to claim somebody else's guy as your own? to me, Boxing is individual , it has fuck all to do with nationalities. If a Boxer from Italy was fighting a Brit or an American, I would say if he stood no chance. Nationality doesn't affect my judgement , unlike you.
I wouldn't be saying Oh Brook COULD beat GGG just cos he's a brit.
Re: Can Joshua become greater than Lennox?
I wholeheartedly agree with the tense/stiff comments, I hope he will become more fluid and happier on the job.
I believe that the reason he may be tense is the sheer pressure he is under, or puts himself under. The pressure is immense! In a one to one sport he could either earn hundreds of millions, or become the next David Price, after one silly mistake.
Hopefully soon he will have an enlightening moment and realise a) I'm better than I thought and b) for someone with my skills this is easy. Then he can relax and get on with it.
The whole system now, as I keep banging on about, discourages youngsters from going into boxing, where one or two losses basically fucks their career. Nowadays I would encourage athletic grandsons to go tennis/golf/soccer/etc. and not a sport that so wickedly punishes losers.
Re: Can Joshua become greater than Lennox?
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nuggetdotcom
I wholeheartedly agree with the tense/stiff comments, I hope he will become more fluid and happier on the job.
I believe that the reason he may be tense is the sheer pressure he is under, or puts himself under. The pressure is immense! In a one to one sport he could either earn hundreds of millions, or become the next David Price, after one silly mistake.
Hopefully soon he will have an enlightening moment and realise a) I'm better than I thought and b) for someone with my skills this is easy. Then he can relax and get on with it.
The whole system now, as I keep banging on about, discourages youngsters from going into boxing, where one or two losses basically fucks their career. Nowadays I would encourage athletic grandsons to go tennis/golf/soccer/etc. and not a sport that so wickedly punishes losers.
I think Joshua is too musclebound which is why he is tense.
Re: Can Joshua become greater than Lennox?
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erics44
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Primo Carnera
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erics44
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Ha ha, a thread about Joshua and the long long line of illustrious British heavyweights ������. It's probably true to say they - at the moment he turned pro - AJ was already at least the second best heavyweight in British heavyweight history!
You could even argue he is the best British produced heavyweight of all time, as Lennox learnt to box and was really produced by the Canadian amateur system and then truly created by Manny Steward.
what the fuck are you on about you mong?
What do you mean, he's fucking bang on the money. How much Boxing did Lennox do in the UK before he turned Pro? He won an Olympic Gold Medal for CANADA ffs!
The UK is probably Lennox Lewis's 3rd Nationality behind Canada and Jamaica!
so what?
is many pac American? all his best work and best achievements have been under an American trainer after all
and the first sentence/paragraph is just as much stupidity as the second
there aren't half a lot of moaning bastards around here
stop fuckin moaning and have a bit of respect
I don't think I was moaning. I think Lennox was a great fighter and I think Joshua may end up as one too
Its a fact that Lewis learnt to box in Canada, that's where he got his amateur grounding and he won a gold medal for the Canadians. He had lots of amateur flaws when he turned pro and paid the price a coupe of times. It's a fact that he got much better and ironed out most of these under Manny Steward. Not sure how that's moaning mate 🤔
Its also probably fairly reasonable to say that British heavyweights didn't cover themselves with glory on the world stage before then. if you disagree, good for you for having a point of view.
Even if it's wrong
Re: Can Joshua become greater than Lennox?
it sounds like moaning to me
owt positive to say?
and Primo what I'm touchy about is every single post I read is slagging someone or questioning someone or saying someone is shit or some fight is shit
Re: Can Joshua become greater than Lennox?
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erics44
it sounds like moaning to me
owt positive to say?
and Primo what I'm touchy about is every single post I read is slagging someone or questioning someone or saying someone is shit or some fight is shit
eric44 you are talking shit. :)
Re: Can Joshua become greater than Lennox?
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Master
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erics44
it sounds like moaning to me
owt positive to say?
and Primo what I'm touchy about is every single post I read is slagging someone or questioning someone or saying someone is shit or some fight is shit
eric44 you are talking shit. :)
I'm not, I'm keeping it real
Re: Can Joshua become greater than Lennox?
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erics44
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Master
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erics44
it sounds like moaning to me
owt positive to say?
and Primo what I'm touchy about is every single post I read is slagging someone or questioning someone or saying someone is shit or some fight is shit
eric44 you are talking shit. :)
I'm not, I'm keeping it real
Real shit. :)
Re: Can Joshua become greater than Lennox?
so anyway, what are the requirements for someone to be a particular nationality?
Re: Can Joshua become greater than Lennox?
Bob Fitzsimmons was our first British heavyweight champion and he was born here but fought in the USA.