Re: Israel has suspended ties with 12 UN Security Council countries
I am more worried about Trump starting a war with China.
Re: Israel has suspended ties with 12 UN Security Council countries
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El Kabong
What benefit have we received from being a part of the UN? They use our soldiers, they take our money, they operate on the false assumption that all nations are of equal value.....what does America get from the UN?
Also in regards to Israel, they won that land in a war they didn't start. So what you want to punish them for being too good at defending themselves? The UN wants to punish them for being successful when the Palestinians are persona non grata in the surrounding nations which share cultures with them?
The Palestinians are pawns in the game, they aren't wanted or appreciated in the other Muslim nations but soon as there's a skirmish between the Israelis and the Pallies the Muslims are ready to have their back....and the Pallies also fake a lot of attacks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTEtit09H0o
The Obama Administration has really stabbed Israel in the back, and the cognitive dissonance for them to claim that 'No administration has helped Israel more' is just appalling. Obama is a disgrace, hopefully he doesn't start a shooting war with Russia before his sorry ass is out of office.
Oh yeah sure... Israel is blameless about this whole thing, as usual. That's why countries that normally never agree on much all came together to vote in favor of the resolution condemning the Israeli settlements, with the U.S. abstaining, but secretly wishing they could vote for it themselves. Then, neighborhood bully Netanyahu summons all the aforementioned ambassadors, including the one from the U.S..... and proceeds to put them over his knee and spanks them.
Israeli-Arab conflicts, old as time itself, and the U.S. sticking it's gigantic nose where it doesn't belong, is one of the main reasons why the U.S. has suffered from Arab extremists' terrorism. Doesn't make it right, mind you..... but you don't see terrorists flying airliners into tall building in other nations.
Re: Israel has suspended ties with 12 UN Security Council countries
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I am more worried about Trump starting a war with China.
Yeah more worried about that MAYBE happening (it won't) than you were about Hillary WANTING a shooting war with Russia.....silly
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TitoFan
Oh yeah sure... Israel is blameless about this whole thing, as usual. That's why countries that normally never agree on much all came together to vote in favor of the resolution condemning the Israeli settlements, with the U.S. abstaining, but secretly wishing they could vote for it themselves. Then, neighborhood bully Netanyahu summons all the aforementioned ambassadors, including the one from the U.S..... and proceeds to put them over his knee and spanks them.
Israeli-Arab conflicts, old as time itself, and the U.S. sticking it's gigantic nose where it doesn't belong, is one of the main reasons why the U.S. has suffered from Arab extremists' terrorism. Doesn't make it right, mind you..... but you don't see terrorists flying airliners into tall building in other nations.
Did I say Israel was blameless? Have they caused some troubles? Sure, but this whole idea of Obama calling for Israel to give up land and return to pre-1967 borders....that's BEGGING for trouble, you can't be blind to that, it's giving up high ground so Palestinians will be able to attack Israel all the better and closer with their rockets.....or does Israel deserve that? You want to punish Israel as well?
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El Kabong
it's giving up high ground so Palestinians will be able to attack Israel all the better and closer with their rockets
Of course, that's one way to look at it. Another way is to say that Israelis continue to expand these contested settlements, refusing to negotiate in good faith..... content with the knowledge that Big Brother Uncle Sam is right behind them wielding a big baseball bat. Well, briefly interrupted by Obama, but already back in the batter's box with Trump. As you say, Israel has absolutely no problem defending itself, and can more than hold its own in any military conflict. However, the fact that most of the international community condemns what they're doing cannot be ignored.
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TitoFan
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El Kabong
it's giving up high ground so Palestinians will be able to attack Israel all the better and closer with their rockets
Of course, that's one way to look at it. Another way is to say that Israelis continue to expand these contested settlements, refusing to negotiate in good faith..... content with the knowledge that Big Brother Uncle Sam is right behind them wielding a big baseball bat. Well, briefly interrupted by Obama, but already back in the batter's box with Trump. As you say, Israel has absolutely no problem defending itself, and can more than hold its own in any military conflict. However, the fact that most of the international community condemns what they're doing cannot be ignored.
Is Uncle Sam behind them? Barack Obama most certainly is NOT behind them.
They didn't need American help in the 6 day war either. Remember Israel is our ally because we share common beliefs, common goals, and common morals and values....I'm much happier being friendly with Israel than Saudi Arabia.
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El Kabong
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TitoFan
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El Kabong
it's giving up high ground so Palestinians will be able to attack Israel all the better and closer with their rockets
Of course, that's one way to look at it. Another way is to say that Israelis continue to expand these contested settlements, refusing to negotiate in good faith..... content with the knowledge that Big Brother Uncle Sam is right behind them wielding a big baseball bat. Well,
briefly interrupted by Obama, but already back in the batter's box with Trump. As you say, Israel has absolutely no problem defending itself, and can more than hold its own in any military conflict. However, the fact that most of the international community condemns what they're doing cannot be ignored.
Is Uncle Sam behind them? Barack Obama most certainly is NOT behind them.
Ok.... you may have missed the bolded part of my post above.
They didn't need American help in the 6 day war either. Remember Israel is our ally because we share common beliefs, common goals, and common morals and values....I'm much happier being friendly with Israel than Saudi Arabia.
I'd much rather be neutral, and let them resolve their own differences. Surely the Israelis wouldn't resort to terrorist bombings against the U.S. if left to deal with their own problems. Given the current state of global affairs and the proliferation of terrorism, I don't agree with this world policeman stance.
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El Kabong
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TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
it's giving up high ground so Palestinians will be able to attack Israel all the better and closer with their rockets
Of course, that's one way to look at it. Another way is to say that Israelis continue to expand these contested settlements, refusing to negotiate in good faith..... content with the knowledge that Big Brother Uncle Sam is right behind them wielding a big baseball bat. Well, briefly interrupted by Obama, but already back in the batter's box with Trump. As you say, Israel has absolutely no problem defending itself, and can more than hold its own in any military conflict. However, the fact that most of the international community condemns what they're doing cannot be ignored.
Is Uncle Sam behind them? Barack Obama most certainly is NOT behind them.
They didn't need American help in the 6 day war either. Remember Israel is our ally because we share common beliefs, common goals, and common morals and values....I'm much happier being friendly with Israel than Saudi Arabia.
Israel is an apartheid state that cannot stop building settlements or habitually massacring Palestinians. I see that you do share common beliefs, goals, and common values. A decent country would support neither Israel nor Saudi Arabia.
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Any time Israel has to compromise they get attacked.
The Palestinians won't recognize Israel and they want death to Israelis.....that's not a mindset you can meet at a halfway point...but I suppose with the Almighty Barack Hussein Obama in charge everything will change :rolleyes:
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Only the U.S. supports Israel. That's because our media is own by Zionist. Anyone who stands up to them is killed in the media or killed for real. Thank you President Obama for standing up to them. Now we're going to see if Trump has a backbone or not. Others who have stood up to Israel.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBZVOR80jnk
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TitoFan
Yeah, the Israeli Gov is constitued of top notch assholes. There is just no proper reason to continue to colonize a land that's not their, trying to get time on their side by arguing all sort of idioties and pulling the "anti semite" card everytime someone dare to criticize them for their latent imbicilities. It's sad that Trump wants to reverse the steam once he's in office because FINALLY, things were a tad getting done in the UN and the US, for the first time in a long time, didn't use their veto to make everything abort.
Totally agree. In today's era and environment, I think it's high time the world begins to put a muzzle on these guys. For being such a small country, they sure stir up a lot of shit. Just the fact that you've got all these other countries... who don't always agree on everything... lined up on a resolution against these settlements... speaks volumes about who the damn troublemaker is here. Unfortunately I see a chance of Trump reversing the recent U.S. stance and undoing some of the progress that is trying to be made on the global scene.
Trump is likely to ruin something that was slowly happening after wayyy too long, a chance to quiet these guys down for good and perhaps to enforce a bit of humanity over them.
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El Kabong
Any time Israel has to compromise they get attacked.
The Palestinians won't recognize Israel and they want death to Israelis.....that's not a mindset you can meet at a halfway point...but I suppose with the Almighty Barack Hussein Obama in charge everything will change :rolleyes:
Israel have done so much harm, it's just un-fuckin-believable. They are violating international treatees for 50 years now, no wonder that Palestinians can't stand them now. If they would have acted decently, things would be different, but they made sure that everything religious over here would be über-radizalized by their rash of violence and scorn. It's a sad state of affair.
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If i had to choose one thing about Obama I didn't mind, it was his lack of ass kissing the Israelis.
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If i had to choose one thing about Obama I didn't mind, it was his lack of ass kissing the Israelis.
He actually gave Israel one of the largest military aid packages in history
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brocktonblockbust
If i had to choose one thing about Obama I didn't mind, it was his lack of ass kissing the Israelis.
He actually gave Israel one of the largest military aid packages in history
..... and Netanyahu still whines like a little bitch.
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Nameless
Israel have done so much harm, it's just un-fuckin-believable. They are violating international treatees for 50 years now, no wonder that Palestinians can't stand them now. If they would have acted decently, things would be different, but they made sure that everything religious over here would be über-radizalized by their rash of violence and scorn. It's a sad state of affair.
You can't do THIS...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ht2B9KaDAEw
...and not expect retaliation.
You hide behind civilians, then you're going to get civilians killed because you're putting them in the crossfire.
Palestinians are pawns in the game, they are only there to start shit with Israel.
Let me ask you, if you had to choose: would you want to live of the Palestinian side or the Israeli side? Which would be best for you?
