Just realized I didn't have the two poster boys for stamina, Aaron Pryor and Henry Armstrong on my list! Could also add prime Duran and Leonard as well.
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Just realized I didn't have the two poster boys for stamina, Aaron Pryor and Henry Armstrong on my list! Could also add prime Duran and Leonard as well.
Armstrong had a low heart rate which explained the perpetual motion.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeeod
One point I disagree with you is Toney or Floyd as having good stamina. They pace the fight well and are relaxed which means they conserve their energy but would not call that stamina.
Don't have Toney on my list, just used him as an example of how staying relaxed can conserve your energy. I think prime Floyd was in great shape. Even in his tough fights, like the first Castillo fight, he wasn't winded or even breathing heavy at the end. Young Floyd was hungry for recognition and greatness and he pushed the pace and was extremely active (Chico, Sharmba, NDou...etc.). Much like Hopkins, as he became older he slowed the pace down and focused mainly on efficiency/defense/conserving energy.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterArmstrong had a low heart rate which explained the perpetual motion.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeeod
One point I disagree with you is Toney or Floyd as having good stamina. They pace the fight well and are relaxed which means they conserve their energy but would not call that stamina.
Colin Jones, Barry Mc guigan, Paul Hogkinson.
Sam Soliman and Troy Dorsey.
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Originally Posted by Hulk
Troy Dorsey is a fantastic call my friend.
That was a great fight. I miss 80s n 90s boxing. We've spoken about this fight before on here, but it's worth saying again: Kelley showed so much promise and potential in this fight, and was a genuinely good, and like able person. Shame the smaller guys didn't get recognition until Naz came along, and by then Kevin was already past his prime.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
I watched Barrera vs Kennedy McKinney, Barrera vs Morales, Naz vs Kelley, Castillo vs Corrales, Toney vs McCallum, Toney vs Prince Charles Williams...et. al, all on non-PPV. Canelo vs Smith was a PPV fight. Berto vs Mayweather was PPV. Pac vs Algieri and Rios were both PPV. Ridiculous. Just glad people are now refusing to buy shit match ups on PPV.
PPV is killing the sport and the fan base is moving away. Greed is killing the sport which is a minority sport now.
Thank you. He was an unsung hero of boxing.Once threw 180 punches in a round I believe and he once said, "It's hard to counter a 3 minute combination".Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlTroy Dorsey is a fantastic call my friend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
Paul Williams had good stamina. 1000 punches in a fight is pretty impressive for anyone.
Yes, he did. It was really something for a welterweight. That's a ton of punches and energy exerted.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon09
Not only a welterweight a 6'1 welterweight with a reach of 79" too! That's a tremendous amount of energy to use.....and to think he was getting ready to fight Canelo, probably could have beaten him too but who knows maybe that Martinez KO would have been the end of him as a top fighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by HulkYes, he did. It was really something for a welterweight. That's a ton of punches and energy exerted.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon09
Maybe not in terms of punch output but Emanuel Augustus, Willie Pep, Pernell Whittaker just for movement, that takes a ton of energy to move the way those guys did. And Pep, holy fuck, to box 1956 rounds in a career is insanity and especially when you consider he was in a fucking plane crash and had a broken back about halfway through as well!
Sugar Ray Robinson boxed 1399 rounds
Roberto Duran boxed 821 rounds
1956 rounds is 5868 minutes which equals 97.8 hours which equates to just about 4 days long.....and that's not counting sparring or training or amateur bouts but just time in a professional ring
I mean that's a fuck ton of fighting
Dorsey was a buzzsaw. His biggest flaw was his flesh. He was so prone to cuts I believe he had surgery to 'shave' down bones under eyes. You ever see the Zack Padilla vs Ray Oliveria fight? Padilla was a sad case of what 'should have been' but a non stop punching machine. Both were involved in punch stat records more than once.Quote:
Originally Posted by HulkThank you. He was an unsung hero of boxing.Once threw 180 punches in a round I believe and he once said, "It's hard to counter a 3 minute combination".Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlTroy Dorsey is a fantastic call my friend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
what about Carl The Cobra Froch?