So here is the real deal with Trump's actions and decisions

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Yes, and I do not support open borders. Your point being what exactly? I still don't get it.

Countries are wary of Syrian refugees and I have said why over the years. That's why you don't interfere in the region.

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You want all sides of the discussion u r schizophrenic

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Nope. I said disrupting the lives of anyone with a visa or residency is a folly. Such people have already done what was expected of them.

Otherwise, I am pro sensible immigration meaning not in favor of open borders like in Germany. Nothing maladjusted about such a position in the slightest.

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You r a dog chasing its tail three miles South Korea took 3 Syrian refugees since 1994

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Why are they obliged to get involved in a conflict where they have not meddled?

That's what I don't understand. How can you not see that invading, arming rebels and bombing is only going to lead to chaos?

That's the big difference. Your country has helped decimate Libya, Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan. It's becoming quite the list and still you have people like Vidgil going 'We are the good guys!'. That is the schizophrenia. That and Brock suddenly becoming a neo con. Most countries stayed well away and sensibly so.

Then you want to have a go at countries that don't go to war or get involved? Strange folk.

no you are the strange one man

You and Walrus are clearly drinking too much of the tap water. Uncontrolled borders are wrong, but denying green card holders who have done all the right things is also wrong. As usual you have your fingers in your ears and are unwilling to ever accept that Trump has perhaps not handled this very well. Muppet.

Miles, Trump was against the Iraq war, he is not a politician, he took no money from anyone! No one owns him, he owes nobody anything, he defeated the entire George Soros mainstream media libtard nonsense everything was stacked against him even a lot of his own Republican party for the past one year now. He pulled off the most miraculous victory of all time in the face oven entirely stacked the deck against him. How dare you or anybody else now tried to put him in the same position of other she'll garbage as George Bush and Bill Clinton and Barack Obama. Are you out of your mind man? This guy is doing stuff for the people.

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Yes, and I do not support open borders. Your point being what exactly? I still don't get it.

Countries are wary of Syrian refugees and I have said why over the years. That's why you don't interfere in the region.

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You want all sides of the discussion u r schizophrenic

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Nope. I said disrupting the lives of anyone with a visa or residency is a folly. Such people have already done what was expected of them.

Otherwise, I am pro sensible immigration meaning not in favor of open borders like in Germany. Nothing maladjusted about such a position in the slightest.

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You r a dog chasing its tail three miles South Korea took 3 Syrian refugees since 1994

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Why are they obliged to get involved in a conflict where they have not meddled?

That's what I don't understand. How can you not see that invading, arming rebels and bombing is only going to lead to chaos?

That's the big difference. Your country has helped decimate Libya, Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan. It's becoming quite the list and still you have people like Vidgil going 'We are the good guys!'. That is the schizophrenia. That and Brock suddenly becoming a neo con. Most countries stayed well away and sensibly so.

Then you want to have a go at countries that don't go to war or get involved? Strange folk.

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Miles South Korea took 3 Syrians since 1994

Since u were white and educated they let u in. Does something seem wrong

Hahaha.

Green card does not give you the right to be here. It can be revoked at ANY TIME for many reasons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1JsFtDYv58

From the very beginning my fears about Trump were in the international affairs, national security areas. You can look up all my previous posts. I figured he'd do well on domestic issues like the economy. I've always been one of those who have been willing to give Trump a chance, wishing him well for the benefit of the country.

But fear is beginning to set in, because Trump is making some moves that are difficult to defend, and tough to accept. For starters, why is he giving so much power to someone like Steve Bannon, while at the same time taking it away from other, more established, more knowledgeable people? Who is really going to run the White House? Whose policies are going to be established? Is there going to be any such thing as consensus anymore? What plans does Trump really have down the line?

It's becoming increasingly difficult not to think of Trump as wanting to turn democracy on its head, and turn the U.S. into something else. We all know Trump has an outsized ego. That he doesn't take kindly to disagreement, nor criticism. Is he REALLY after what is good for the country? Or is he drunk with power and wants nothing more than to have pyramids built in his name? This shit is really starting to become worrisome, even to those who have been willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

WTF is going on... and are people going to be able to react in case things begin to go south really, really quick?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ional-security

It is important for people to maintain their objectivity when it comes to Trump. Forget SJW snowflakes (I still don't know what that means) on one side, and the rabid Trump lovers on the other. I'm hoping there's enough objective people out there to see reality for what it is. We're not talking about a deranged CEO who could cause his corporation's stock to drop. We're talking about the leader of the most powerful country in the world, with the capability to begin global conflict, or even a third World War.

If Trump is going to put all his eggs in one basket, he needs to be careful before putting someone like Bannon in charge of everything.

Trump has been criticized for moving so fast on his executive orders, that in a sense he's "flooding the zone", making it impossible to scrutinize each action for its own merits. There's something basically wrong with that. Don't get me wrong, Americans were tired of the inaction of previous politicians..... but the saying "haste makes waste" has some bearing on this.

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From the very beginning my fears about Trump were in the international affairs, national security areas. You can look up all my previous posts. I figured he'd do well on domestic issues like the economy. I've always been one of those who have been willing to give Trump a chance, wishing him well for the benefit of the country.

But fear is beginning to set in, because Trump is making some moves that are difficult to defend, and tough to accept. For starters, why is he giving so much power to someone like Steve Bannon, while at the same time taking it away from other, more established, more knowledgeable people? Who is really going to run the White House? Whose policies are going to be established? Is there going to be any such thing as consensus anymore? What plans does Trump really have down the line?

It's becoming increasingly difficult not to think of Trump as wanting to turn democracy on its head, and turn the U.S. into something else. We all know Trump has an outsized ego. That he doesn't take kindly to disagreement, nor criticism. Is he REALLY after what is good for the country? Or is he drunk with power and wants nothing more than to have pyramids built in his name? This shit is really starting to become worrisome, even to those who have been willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

WTF is going on... and are people going to be able to react in case things begin to go south really, really quick?

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So he wants to turn democracy into something else, what he's going to become a monarch

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From the very beginning my fears about Trump were in the international affairs, national security areas. You can look up all my previous posts. I figured he'd do well on domestic issues like the economy. I've always been one of those who have been willing to give Trump a chance, wishing him well for the benefit of the country.

But fear is beginning to set in, because Trump is making some moves that are difficult to defend, and tough to accept. For starters, why is he giving so much power to someone like Steve Bannon, while at the same time taking it away from other, more established, more knowledgeable people? Who is really going to run the White House? Whose policies are going to be established? Is there going to be any such thing as consensus anymore? What plans does Trump really have down the line?

It's becoming increasingly difficult not to think of Trump as wanting to turn democracy on its head, and turn the U.S. into something else. We all know Trump has an outsized ego. That he doesn't take kindly to disagreement, nor criticism. Is he REALLY after what is good for the country? Or is he drunk with power and wants nothing more than to have pyramids built in his name? This shit is really starting to become worrisome, even to those who have been willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

WTF is going on... and are people going to be able to react in case things begin to go south really, really quick?

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So he wants to turn democracy into something else, what he's going to become a monarch

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You don't have a problem with that?

Well I'm not sure what you are saying he is going to turn it into.