Re: Deontay Wilder vs Gerald Washington Feb. 25
that is a very impressive ko, I think izu was also a pretty good kickboxer too before he turned pro as a boxer.. Breazale did pretty good v mansour too, he was losing and was in danger of getting ko'd but he came back and got a "lucky" punch to force mansour to quit, I guess he was fortunate that mansours mouthpiece was crap and he nearly bit his tongue in half :S but like you said he showed grit and toughness.
Speaking of mansour he is fighting travis kauffman in march I think, Kauffman had a pretty good fight with arreola and was unluky to not get the decision there, that could be a fun fight.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs Gerald Washington Feb. 25
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that is a very impressive ko, I think izu was also a pretty good kickboxer too before he turned pro as a boxer.. Breazale did pretty good v mansour too, he was losing and was in danger of getting ko'd but he came back and got a "lucky" punch to force mansour to quit, I guess he was fortunate that mansours mouthpiece was crap and he nearly bit his tongue in half :S but like you said he showed grit and toughness.
Speaking of mansour he is fighting travis kauffman in march I think, Kauffman had a pretty good fight with arreola and was unluky to not get the decision there, that could be a fun fight.
I had Kauffman winning that fight. Steve Cunningham is supposed to be on that card I think.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs Gerald Washington Feb. 25
This will be on sky sports.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs Gerald Washington Feb. 25
This looks a good sparko card on paper - Hurd-Harrison and Breazeale-Ugonoh look 50/50s. Quite fancy Harrison for the slight upset but know virtually nothing about Hurd apart from he looks massive at the weight.
Ugonoh is the weirdest looking Pole ever - Polish/Nigerian, had a load of fights in New Zealand yet lives in Las Vegas. Err.. what? Breazeale is a 2/1 dog.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs Gerald Washington Feb. 25
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This looks a good sparko card on paper - Hurd-Harrison and Breazeale-Ugonoh look 50/50s. Quite fancy Harrison for the slight upset but know virtually nothing about Hurd apart from he looks massive at the weight.
Ugonoh is the weirdest looking Pole ever - Polish/Nigerian, had a load of fights in New Zealand yet lives in Las Vegas. Err.. what? Breazeale is a 2/1 dog.
Living on an island that isn't that racially diverse I still double take when I see black people with Scottish or Irish accents on TV.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs Gerald Washington Feb. 25
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This looks a good sparko card on paper - Hurd-Harrison and Breazeale-Ugonoh look 50/50s. Quite fancy Harrison for the slight upset but know virtually nothing about Hurd apart from he looks massive at the weight.
Ugonoh is the weirdest looking Pole ever - Polish/Nigerian, had a load of fights in New Zealand yet lives in Las Vegas. Err.. what? Breazeale is a 2/1 dog.
Looking forward to Hurd and Harrison in what is now a trinket grab. Hurd looks like a guy with all the tools but do wonder is he gets too lackadaisical in spots. Inside work and finishing are top notch, but Harrison is no Jo Jo Dan. Long road back for sharp boxer Harrison who must feel like he's looking in a mirror prior to being ko'd by Wilson. He was doing well there until late and Wilson can punch. He may look a weight class below when they touch up but very solid match up, like Hurd tko.
Deontay Wilder VS. Gerald Washington - 25/3/17
A lot of negativity aimed at Wilder for not stepping up and taking bigger fighters (AJ just yesterday said he needs to stop picking fights and step up) but let's give Wilder a break, he had a genuine injury so as far as i'm concerned gets a pass here.
Wilder KO win for me
Deontay Wilder will look put injuries behind him and take a step toward title unification on Saturday when he defends his WBC world heavyweight title against Gerald Washington at the Legacy Arena in Birmingham, Alabama.
http://www.badlefthook.com/2017/2/21...-and-breakdown
Re: Deontay Wilder VS. Gerald Washington - 25/3/17
Considering Wilder is coming back from a serious injury then this is a respectable defence. This will build up nicely to then face AJ later in the year or early next year.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs Gerald Washington Feb. 25
Wilder has also talked a lot about unifying with Parker so if he looks to fight one of those guys next I'll give him a pass here. As long as he doesn't waste time with a Stiverne rematch.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs Gerald Washington Feb. 25
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Washington wouldn't be "the next coming" if a Brit. We have plenty of heavyweights/fighters with sexy records - Gary Cornish, Tom Dallas, Dave Allen, Larry OBoots etc - who are never seen as future world beaters, because the ultimate proof is seeing them fight not looking at records. The same goes for Washington - he's not bad but an obvious ex-American football player that came to boxing late.
British fighters like AJ and Price were decorated amateurs before turning pro. Guys like Chisora and Fury made their name by steadily having success as they moved up in class - area, continental, commonwealth, British, European - before proving themselves at world level. Whyte was a nobody but hit the jackpot by beating AJ in the amateurs, then put his money where his mouth is and made a name for himself.
On this forum only ross thinks Hughie Fury is the second coming.
Wow. Respect your opinion but I'm amazed you can write that with such complete lack of self awareness. You just wrote out exactly the qualifying that someone(El Kabong? Primo?) said Brits would do but it seems like you think you're doing the opposite. Just WOW
So Price is good? Chisora? Whyte? My god man. They aren't and you suggesting they earned their status is exactly what was said.If Washington was a Brit.... Clearly you would form some crazy qualification to suggest he was good. You proved it in your post.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs Gerald Washington Feb. 25
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Fenster
Washington wouldn't be "the next coming" if a Brit. We have plenty of heavyweights/fighters with sexy records - Gary Cornish, Tom Dallas, Dave Allen, Larry OBoots etc - who are never seen as future world beaters, because the ultimate proof is seeing them fight not looking at records. The same goes for Washington - he's not bad but an obvious ex-American football player that came to boxing late.
British fighters like AJ and Price were decorated amateurs before turning pro. Guys like Chisora and Fury made their name by steadily having success as they moved up in class - area, continental, commonwealth, British, European - before proving themselves at world level. Whyte was a nobody but hit the jackpot by beating AJ in the amateurs, then put his money where his mouth is and made a name for himself.
On this forum only ross thinks Hughie Fury is the second coming.
Wow. Respect your opinion but I'm amazed you can write that with such complete lack of self awareness. You just wrote out exactly the qualifying that someone(El Kabong? Primo?) said Brits would do but it seems like you think you're doing the opposite. Just WOW
So Price is good? Chisora? Whyte? My god man. They aren't and you suggesting they earned their status is exactly what was said.If Washington was a Brit.... Clearly you would form some crazy qualification to suggest he was good. You proved it in your post.
Nope... you didn't understand my post. I never made a judgement about whether or not the fighters I named were good or bad. That is purely subjective. But as you've brought the subject up - you don't believe Price, Chisora or Whyte are good? Compared with whom? I would say any professional that has a modicum of success is good, many a journeyman are good. Now comparing them with all-time greats (which you must be doing) they're not "good."
My post was specifically about hype, following and reputation. I explained that Washington - far from being "the next best thing" - was just as likely to fall into the first category of fighters I listed as the third group (Fury, Chisora, Whyte). As he's not a decorated Olympic medalist he wouldn't have had the hype AJ and Price got (they were widely known amateurs).
Hope I made it clear this time.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs Gerald Washington Feb. 25
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Exactly!
Why would you think that people can not exercise a bit of perspective on a forum like this just because they happen to be British ? I don't think Fenster or any of us old fogeys here are so easily deluded, or prone to exaggerating someone's ability because they are British.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs Gerald Washington Feb. 25
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Primo Carnera
Exactly!
Why would you think that people can not exercise a bit of perspective on a forum like this just because they happen to be British ? I don't think Fenster
or any of us old fogeys here are so easily deluded, or prone to exaggerating someone's ability because they are British.
Dunno if you're talking tongue in cheek, but I beg to differ. We see it all the time. Perhaps what I should do is point out every single case as it happens.