Need some help with gambling

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Originally Posted by Gandalf

Are fights here held in casinos? In the UK? Most countries? I thought we were talking about bookies actually and yes they have historically been frowned upon. It isn't only me that disagrees with them, it is also the legislature of many countries around the world and I happen to think it quite sensible policy. You can agree or disagree, but yes, the UK does look a bit weird in that respect through the eyes of many people around the world. It might be normal to you, but then you think healthy thin people look ill. You are too used to seeing things in an 'odd' way.

I am not sure one needs to be an expert on gambling to have a rational discussion about it's ethics within a society anyway. I worked in the industry several years and have lived in a country with no gambling to see the pros and cons. Quite a lot of people develop serious addictions and it has got worse with the machines they now have in most shops.

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The last two cards I worked were sponsored by a Casino, the weigh-in was in a casino and the after fight party was in a casino. There is nothing odd about me not finding bookies on UK streets not at all weird. Since when do we have to be like everyone else? I know you used to work in one but that is no reason to go full on ex-smoker vigilante about it.

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Originally Posted by Batman

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Originally Posted by walrus

Good idea batman but no she has a book. He even prints receipts stating the wages, over and under, odds and payouts. The damn things are printed out on a receipt similar to what you get at the grocery store. It's run out of a bodega which is what we call the little convenience stores in bad parts of town

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In that case the only thing you can do is shag her and steal her bank cards

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Brilliant, I hate to say it but I think she digs me. I could never do it though, I'm married

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Originally Posted by Beanz

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Originally Posted by Gandalf

Are fights here held in casinos? In the UK? Most countries? I thought we were talking about bookies actually and yes they have historically been frowned upon. It isn't only me that disagrees with them, it is also the legislature of many countries around the world and I happen to think it quite sensible policy. You can agree or disagree, but yes, the UK does look a bit weird in that respect through the eyes of many people around the world. It might be normal to you, but then you think healthy thin people look ill. You are too used to seeing things in an 'odd' way.

I am not sure one needs to be an expert on gambling to have a rational discussion about it's ethics within a society anyway. I worked in the industry several years and have lived in a country with no gambling to see the pros and cons. Quite a lot of people develop serious addictions and it has got worse with the machines they now have in most shops.

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The last two cards I worked were sponsored by a Casino, the weigh-in was in a casino and the after fight party was in a casino. There is nothing odd about me not finding bookies on UK streets not at all weird. Since when do we have to be like everyone else? I know you used to work in one but that is no reason to go full on ex-smoker vigilante about it.

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You are moving the goalposts with the boxing/casino link anyway. Boxing can get its sponsorship from anywhere. Yet they choose to associate with casinos which are regarded as immoral around the world for how they make money from money. They are like banks and loansharks, except it has a spin to make it more fun, they market themselves as leisure, when it is really diluted form of banking. Again, bad for society. There was an episode of Theroux on this and people seemed to be down losing most of the time then the occasional dopamine rush would keep them in. It's like bloodsports with the human psyche. Cruel. They will always win overall.

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Originally Posted by Gandalf

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Originally Posted by Beanz

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Originally Posted by Gandalf

Are fights here held in casinos? In the UK? Most countries? I thought we were talking about bookies actually and yes they have historically been frowned upon. It isn't only me that disagrees with them, it is also the legislature of many countries around the world and I happen to think it quite sensible policy. You can agree or disagree, but yes, the UK does look a bit weird in that respect through the eyes of many people around the world. It might be normal to you, but then you think healthy thin people look ill. You are too used to seeing things in an 'odd' way.

I am not sure one needs to be an expert on gambling to have a rational discussion about it's ethics within a society anyway. I worked in the industry several years and have lived in a country with no gambling to see the pros and cons. Quite a lot of people develop serious addictions and it has got worse with the machines they now have in most shops.

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The last two cards I worked were sponsored by a Casino, the weigh-in was in a casino and the after fight party was in a casino. There is nothing odd about me not finding bookies on UK streets not at all weird. Since when do we have to be like everyone else? I know you used to work in one but that is no reason to go full on ex-smoker vigilante about it.

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You are moving the goalposts with the boxing/casino link anyway. Boxing can get its sponsorship from anywhere. Yet they choose to associate with casinos which are regarded as immoral around the world for how they make money from money. They are like banks and loansharks, except it has a spin to make it more fun, they market themselves as leisure, when it is really diluted form of banking. Again, bad for society. There was an episode of Theroux on this and people seemed to be down losing most of the time then the occasional dopamine rush would keep them in. It's like bloodsports with the human psyche. Cruel. They will always win overall.

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BWAHAHAHA!

You literally could not make it up. Here you are comparing Casinos to bloodsports and then saying there is no link between boxing and gambling. Casinos are often entertainment venues nowadays people go there to watch sports events and eat food, get drunk not just gamble on the tables etc. They are supporting boxing from the grassroots up and yet all this condemnation from you. Where has this goalpost thing come from? Don't lets make the entire forum into a rigid i will list the points and you will answer in numbered bullet points or some pissing contest where someone has to WIN the argument. It's always used to be a freeform jazz kind of forum with a bit of Carry On, Monty Python and Animal House , SNL thrown in. Let's not get all College Jocks initiating the freshers about it.

"Cruel"

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People would say boxing is cruel. Adults can do what they like with their money if they want to be irresponsible who are me and you to lecture them about it?

Boxing can and does exist without casino's. But that is not the argument. We were originally talking about bookies and they are illegal all over the world becuase of the harmful societal impact it has. I can argue that more tomorrow if you like, but boxing is not reliant on casinos. Go to asia and see where they fight.

Not sure what you boys are arguing about (lol) but I keep seeing asia, casino and gambling.

The gambling turnover in Macau is bigger than Vegas, it's not a coincidence boxing (Pacquiao, Arum's stable, Chinese stars like Zou) fight there. Hong Kong, Singapore their gambling industry makes Britain look like occasional dabblers... Japan has a huge superb horse racing industry with a parimutuel gambling system.

There are no betting shops in America either.

I speak for Korea only and it is that gambling is mostly illegal. I prefer that TBH. China or Japan ....other worlds to me really.

Korea uses the Parimutuel gambling system too. The only difference between the UK and S.Korea/USA is you can't get knicked for choosing how to spend your own money in public

Explain with more detail. What do you mean?

So any way to get things back on topic, we were talking about walrus' soon to be bit on the side, does he shag her and steal her credit card or just kill her kids?

Or have any of you bright sparks got any better ideas

I need some help too. I recently invested in a racing snail (its like investing in a racehorse or a greyhound; you get the thrill of ownership plus betting on something whose performance you actually know)

Being at the races as an owner is brilliant fun, and you get VIP treatment. The beauty of snail racing is that you can enjoy it for so much longer during the race.

Anyway, I think I've made a big mistake

I took the shell off my racing snail, to make it more aerodynamic, reduce wind drag and therefore make it faster ....... but if anything it has only made it more sluggish.