Re: Let's define a Robbery...
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Master
GGG should not be penalised for not moving up in weight. Hagler stayed at middleweight and dominated smaller opponents too but built a great legacy.
Ward should not be penalised for staying at 168.
He could have stayed there and crushed the Degale, groves and Jacks of this world.
Re: Let's define a Robbery...
Quote:
Originally Posted by
imp
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Master
GGG should not be penalised for not moving up in weight. Hagler stayed at middleweight and dominated smaller opponents too but built a great legacy.
Ward should not be penalised for staying at 168.
He could have stayed there and crushed the Degale, groves and Jacks of this world.
I have not penalised him, it was a great victory to beat big bad Kovalev. A mark of a great fighter.
Re: Let's define a Robbery...
Quote:
Originally Posted by
imp
Let's Stop crying Robbery..
Too much moaning about last nights fight when the corrupt judge made the mistake in the wide scores but not the choice of opponent.
Do you consider any of these recent fights a robbery?
Pac vs Bradley 1?
Pac vs Horn?
Ward vs Kovalev 1?
Degale vs Jack?!
In all your saddo experience as a fan or boxer, what fights have you seen that has been a complete and utter robbery that have left you completely disgusted.
Give me a breakdown of your definition of what makes a robbery in a boxing match.
Pac vs Bradley 1? - I didn't agree with the result
Pac vs Horn? - I wouldn't argue with this one
Ward vs Kovalev 1? - a little fortunate to go to ward, more like a draw
Degale vs Jack?! - the correct result, six rounds each easy
Re: Let's define a Robbery...
Canelo wasn't active enough and GGG wasn't active enough so it was far from a robbery. Golovkin forced the fight but Canelo did the better work, do you like quantity or quality?
Re: Let's define a Robbery...
Quote:
Originally Posted by
GaMo
Canelo wasn't active enough and GGG wasn't active enough so it was far from a robbery. Golovkin forced the fight but Canelo did the better work, do you like quantity or quality?
Read Fensters post, the quantity was with GGG and so was the quality.
Re: Let's define a Robbery...
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Master
Quote:
Originally Posted by
GaMo
Canelo wasn't active enough and GGG wasn't active enough so it was far from a robbery. Golovkin forced the fight but Canelo did the better work, do you like quantity or quality?
Read Fensters post, the quantity was with GGG and so was the quality.
I don't need to read his post. I watched the fight and the quality was obviously with Canelo, if you can't see that then you're either blind or stupid (maybe both) GGG was more marked up despite Alvarez wearing winning gloves (aka pillows) that tells you all you need to know.
Re: Let's define a Robbery...
It was an excellent fight. Both guys gave everything. Golovkin won the fight, I say 8,4 . The lady judge had other things on her mind other than watching a great fight.
Shame, it spoiled a great show.
Re: Let's define a Robbery...
Quote:
Originally Posted by
GaMo
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Master
Quote:
Originally Posted by
GaMo
Canelo wasn't active enough and GGG wasn't active enough so it was far from a robbery. Golovkin forced the fight but Canelo did the better work, do you like quantity or quality?
Read Fensters post, the quantity was with GGG and so was the quality.
I don't need to read his post. I watched the fight and the quality was obviously with Canelo, if you can't see that then you're either blind or stupid (maybe both) GGG was more marked up despite Alvarez wearing winning gloves (aka pillows) that tells you all you need to know.
You can not decide who won a fight based on what they looked like at the end of the fight. That is dumb.
Re: Let's define a Robbery...
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Master
Quote:
Originally Posted by
GaMo
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Master
Quote:
Originally Posted by
GaMo
Canelo wasn't active enough and GGG wasn't active enough so it was far from a robbery. Golovkin forced the fight but Canelo did the better work, do you like quantity or quality?
Read Fensters post, the quantity was with GGG and so was the quality.
I don't need to read his post. I watched the fight and the quality was obviously with Canelo, if you can't see that then you're either blind or stupid (maybe both) GGG was more marked up despite Alvarez wearing winning gloves (aka pillows) that tells you all you need to know.
You can not decide who won a fight based on what they looked like at the end of the fight. That is dumb.
No but you can see who was landing the better punches. One guys swollen up and the other isn't :rolleyes:
Re: Let's define a Robbery...
Quote:
Originally Posted by
GaMo
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Master
Quote:
Originally Posted by
GaMo
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Master
Quote:
Originally Posted by
GaMo
Canelo wasn't active enough and GGG wasn't active enough so it was far from a robbery. Golovkin forced the fight but Canelo did the better work, do you like quantity or quality?
Read Fensters post, the quantity was with GGG and so was the quality.
I don't need to read his post. I watched the fight and the quality was obviously with Canelo, if you can't see that then you're either blind or stupid (maybe both) GGG was more marked up despite Alvarez wearing winning gloves (aka pillows) that tells you all you need to know.
You can not decide who won a fight based on what they looked like at the end of the fight. That is dumb.
No but you can see who was landing the better punches. One guys swollen up and the other isn't :rolleyes:
No you can not because you could get a fighter who does not mark up but takes a beating.
Re: Let's define a Robbery...
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Fenster
68 collected results from fighters/media
Lennox Lewis - Golovkin
Paulie Malignaggi - Golovkin
Austin Trout - Golovkin
Enzo Macarenelli - Golovkin
Terence Crawford - Golovkin
Liam Smith - Golovkin
Peter Quillin - Golovkin
Liam Williams - Golovkin
Ohara Davies - Golovkin
Luke Campbell - Golovkin
Dave Coldwell - Golovkin
Badou Jack - Golovkin
Kevin Kelly - Golovkin
Steve Kim - Golovkin
Doug Fischer - Golovkin
Ring TV - Golvokin
Michael Montero - Golovkin
Joe Rogan - Golovkin
Jim Rome (sports broadcaster) - Golovkin
Kovalev - Golvokin
Chavez Jr - Golovkin
Danny Jacobs - Golovkin
Murat Gassiev - Golovkin
Ed Robinson - Golovkin
Spencer Fearon - Golovkin
Johnny Nelson - Golovkin
James Brady (SB Nation) - Golovkin
Rosie Perez - Golovkin
Lou DiBella - Golovkin
Tony Jeffries - Golovkin
Martin Samuel (UK Daily Mail) - Golovkin
Kenny Porter - Golovkin
Adam Booth - Golovkin
Teddy Atlas --------------------------------> 118-110 GGG
Jeff Powell (UK Daily Mail) ----------------> 118-111 GGG
Mookie Alexander (Bloody Elbow) --------> 117-111 GGG
Brian Campbell (CBS) ---------------------> 117-111 GGG
Jack Rathborn (Mirror UK) ----------------> 117-111 GGG
Harold Lederman (HBO) ------------------> 116-112 GGG
Dan Rafael (ESPN) ------------------------> 116-112 GGG
Bryan Graham (Guardian UK) ------------> 116-112 GGG
Gareth Davies (UK Telegraph) -----------> 116-112 GGG
Sergio Martinez ---------------------------> 116-112 GGG
Amir Khan ---------------------------------> 116-112 GGG
Matthew Macklin --------------------------> 116-112 GGG
Steve Lillis (BoxNation) -------------------> 116-112 GGG
Bob Velin (USA Today) --------------------> 116-112 GGG
Kevin McRae (Bleacher Report) -----------> 116-112 GGG
Shaun Al-Shatti (MMA Fighting) ----------> 116-112 GGG
Ryan Frederick (Wrestling Observer) ----> 116-112 GGG
Patrick Stumberg (MMA Mania) ----------> 116-112 GGG
Kevin Mitchell (Guardian UK) ------------> 116-113 GGG
Josh Taylor --------------------------------> 116-113 GGG
Joshua Bautsi -----------------------------> 116-113 GGG
Jordan Breen (Sherdog) ------------------> 115-112 GGG
Caleb Truax -------------------------------> 115-113 GGG
Kevin Iole (Yahoo) ------------------------> 115-113 GGG
Gary Locket -------------------------------> 115-113 GGG
Will Esco (Bad Left Hook) -----------------> 115-113 GGG
Phil Murphy (ESPN) -----------------------> 115-113 GGG
Mike Harris (SI) ---------------------------> 115-113 GGG
Paul Fontaine (Wrestling Observer) ------> 115-113 GGG
MMA Brazil ---------------------------------> 115-113 GGG
Sean Sheehan (Severe MMA) -------------> 115-113 GGG
Rob Tatum (Combat Press) ----------------> 115-113 GGG
Patrick Wyman (Bleacher Report) ---------> 115-113 GGG
Joel Diaz ------------------------------------> 115-113 GGG
De La Hoya - 115-113 Canelo
Bernard Hopkins - 115-113 Canelo
Golovkin - 66 votes (97%)
Canelo - 2 votes (3%)
This is why scores don't mean anything when determining whether or not an injustice has occurred. You can't possibly justify a draw when NOBODY (two promoters don't count) gave Canelo the fight, you'd expect a MINIMUM of 15% support for Canelo (10 out of 67) and even then it would be a stretch to claim a draw was "fair" considering the figures. But ZERO support?
