If they fought at 140 could they fight for a 147 belt?Quote:
Originally Posted by The_One77
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If they fought at 140 could they fight for a 147 belt?Quote:
Originally Posted by The_One77
Yeah, like if Toney had beaten Rahman, he should have immediately lost all the fat (i'm not aiming for realism here), ran back down to middleweight, and forced HWs to chase him down there for a shot at the title.Quote:
Originally Posted by The_One77
no--the_one was joking. hatton would likely have to vacate that belt anyway, even if he stuck around at 147, cuz no one (especially HBO) was excited about watching that mandatory.Quote:
Originally Posted by Weebels
didn't think that sounded right. So excuse me while I pull my head out of my ass.
A Champion is someone who has a tough fight and is all over a rematch to prove themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by The_One77
Ricky is going down in weight for an easier chance at the other fighters he can bully.
Thats not a champion ;)
Yes I realize that you R going to roll your eyes. Does 7 lbs really make that much difference?
Yes. Because his style needs him to push around guys and bully them and wear them down. He can't bully a guy that is naturally bigger then him, he body mass won't allow it, they both may weigh the same but only one can actually use that weight with his mass. Collazo could stand in front of Ricky because Ricky didn't carry well at 147 because he hasn't the mass to bully. It was smart of Hatton to move down but he isn't a true champ unless he fights Collazo again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Weebels
Do you think that Hatton could bully Floyd, Starr? Floyd has been walking forward in his most recent fights, and has gotten alot bigger, and stronger{not punch power} than he used to be. I mean, against Gatti, he looked like a monster, even Zab grew alot, and Floyd looked bigger than him. Floyd has been pushing back as of recent, not getting out-muscled.Quote:
Originally Posted by Starr
So even if Collozo moved down weight he would still be the bigger man. How would that help Hatten, why not grow into 147 (as Hatten says) and then rematch? Or does Collozo lose strength by going down?
Floyd is the type that will let you push him because he will still move himself out of distance and then move.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unknowndonor
No I don't think Hatton would be able to bully Floyd if Floyd wanted to stand his ground but I think Floyd would let Hatton move him and use it to his advantage use Hatton's physicality against him.
It would depend on how easily that Collazo could make 140. If Collazo could make 140 easily without draining himself he would still hold the advantage over Hatton. However if Collazo had to drain himself to make 140 then his stamina would be shot and Hatton would have the advantageQuote:
Originally Posted by Weebels
Hatton>Judah...PBF schools Hatton...Oscar crushes Hatton worse than Mayorga!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by NorthSideX4
Yes I've seen PBF fight numerous times....did I say Collazo was better? I'm sorry I didn't read where I said that.Quote:
Originally Posted by MRMANICK
I'm not trying to make anyone look better or worse, Collazo was just different, you say PBF is better wouldn't that make him DIFFERENT than Collazo?
I mean the same people who say well X beat Y and Y beat Z, that means X beats Z are now taking this Hatton-Collazo fight and running with it!
As for the match ups at welter here are my OPINIONS
Hatton-Judah: Zab looks dominant until caught with a good punch, Ricky TKO mid-late rounds
Hatton-Floyd: It's hard to really go against PBF at this point in time so I say he wins on cuts
Hatton-ODH: that would be a brutal fight and Ricky should stay far away from it.
That's a smart champion who know's his limitations :-\ 8)Quote:
Originally Posted by Starr
Well what about the other bloke, Vassiliy Jirov.........he moved up and lost so he did the smart thing (too little to late) and moved down to cruiserweight.
You may not like Ricky but the fact remains that he is still 41-0-0 and Callozo lost that fight!