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Originally Posted by Raeder
MAybe theres a link to the big talkers and loose chins ;D.
Zab is there with bells on still sharp little fighter.
Mundine was classed as glass, but is very skilled.
Look close and it was a temple shot ,that was he stupid fault for going sideways and posing in front of a champion plodder.
Loose chin, loose mind, loose mouth ,it adds up.
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roy jones has shown to have a bad chin, tommy hearns.............and our old mate herbie, boy his chin was sugar glass, when it shatterd it was sweet to watch, very comical
Marvis. but he was never a natural heavyweight!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bookkeeper
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahnHow do you figure? Jones was not stopped until long after his best days and he had went all the way up to HW then down again....Before that he never faltered...and he has been stopped twice...I don't consider that a bad chin....I consider that old age catching up with him and his body taking too much abuse from the gain and loss of so much muscle mass.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft
He got stopped twice BIG TIME. And he does have a bad chin.
Do you know who owns the best chin? Try looking up Gerry Penalosa's record. He's 36, reigning champ, and has never been down. Just to let ya know, he went toe to toe with DPDL too and he shoulda won that fight. ;)
Nah he definitely means Hide. Box hair cut? come on its obvious! lolQuote:
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Originally Posted by BrooklyniteQueen
I am sure you mean Danny Williams.
Im surprised nobody has mentioned Nigel Benn...A flush punch would always have him in all kinds of trouble. His legs would go instantly but he had great recovery and survival instincts.
I think when most people think of Judah's chin they just think of the Zab dance which granted is some funny shit but he got beaten up by Cotto for 11 rounds and I thought his chin held up very well. If he stayed down after Tsuyu dropped him he may have been ok and able to continue after the 8 count! Instead we got one of boxings funniest video's...thank you Zab :)
Lewis had a good chin..he took flush shots from Vitali and didn't even move.ICB and Daxx, I agree that Bruno's problem was the lack of survival instincts..he never tied up and just kinda shit himself when he got hit hard!
I agree, Zab hasn't got a bad chin, Cotto landed some big bombs and the right hand Tszyu landed on Zab would have flattened The Big Show!Quote:
Originally Posted by piye
Carl "the truth" Williams pops to mind
Yep he had great movement for a big man one of the best jabs in Heavyweight history etc. He also lost a razor thin decision to an aging Larry Holmes but that damn weak chin always failed Williams. Especially against Tommy Morrison.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
And he was a slick boxer until his pops tried to get him to fight exactly the way he did.Quote:
Originally Posted by barrykil1980Marvis. but he was never a natural heavyweight!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bookkeeper
No doubt.That was actually a really good scrap....Battle off the thin chins ;D.Tommy got dropped twice in the 5th and they went back and forth.Had some nice tools with jab and footwork and good bodywork but Achilles heel was that beard.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBYep he had great movement for a big man one of the best jabs in Heavyweight history etc. He also lost a razor thin decision to an aging Larry Holmes but that damn weak chin always failed Williams. Especially against Tommy Morrison.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
Have you seen His loss to Mike Weaver?That was brutal and sudden.Williams was putting it on Weaver on the ropes in the 2nd and seemed to stunned him and then BOOM,A perfect left hook by Mike caves the ceiling in on Williams with three KD's.Pretty good upset there.
Lewis names been mentiond a few times in this post,I agree completly with the above,his name does'nt belong in this post!!Quote:
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Originally Posted by Chino
He got up from both but was stopped. Down twice in his entire career. Took flush punches off Tyson , Tua , Bruno , Briggs , Grant , Vitali etc without blinking . I think that proves he had a very good chin . Tyson , Evander, Bowe went down more often than him .
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Originally Posted by GAMEQuote:
Originally Posted by Chino
I thought Lewis simply couldn't get up from both. Got counted to 10 and that was it. His legs simply couldn't hold him. When Lewis faced Tyson I don't even think Tyson connected. I just wanted Tyson to connect that left hook to Lewis' jaw for him to crumble but Tyson, I dunno, just didn't had what he needed (past his prime, intimidation, etc.). When he faced Klitschko and got hit on the jaw before the fight was stopped he was fazed easily, same thing with Kltitschko.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAME
Duane Bobick
Carl "The Truth" Williams
Gerry Cooney
Michael Moorer
Wlad Klitschko
"Big" John Tate
Fernando Vargas
Tommy Hearns
Some of the biggest names that had the worst chins... imo
Major boxers who when they got flushed,went into queer street:
Duran
Leonard
Tszyu
Lennox
Tyson
Jones Jr.
Walcott
Louis
Patterson
Schmeling
Oscar
Trinidad
Hearns
Norris
Etc,etc,etc, As to who had the worst chin,who cares.
90% of all MAJOR champions at some time got the wobbles after a flush shot. The point being you do not become a MAJOR name in this sport with a Glass Jaw.
jAMES hOLLY LOST 55 FIGHT ALL BY ko. :o:o
No way did Lewis have a glass chin! Just watch this.Quote:
Originally Posted by njacketsLewis names been mentiond a few times in this post,I agree completly with the above,his name does'nt belong in this post!!Quote:
Originally Posted by GAMEQuote:
Originally Posted by Chino
He got up from both but was stopped. Down twice in his entire career. Took flush punches off Tyson , Tua , Bruno , Briggs , Grant , Vitali etc without blinking . I think that proves he had a very good chin . Tyson , Evander, Bowe went down more often than him .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4SQmxIP5Bk
fernando vargas to me had a weak chin he got knocked down by tito in the 1st round and eventually knocked him out ODHL kod him Mosley kod him twice too
JMM was knocked down 3 times in the first round by Pac. Weak chin ?????Quote:
Originally Posted by kingfrnk
Tszyu down twice in the first round by Hurtado. Weak chin ?????
Archie Moore down three times in first round by Durelle. Weak chin?????
What is the criteria for having a weak chin???????
I didn't find out I was related to him (kinda sorta) until after he'd died. From what I've learned it seems once his cage got rattled it stayed that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Promoter
julian jackson
Floyd Patterson is debatible. He got knocked out by 2 all time greats twice each and ingamar johannson. 5 times out of 64 fights. I don't see a glass chin.
Not waking up in time, I would think.Quote:
Originally Posted by zakJMM was knocked down 3 times in the first round by Pac. Weak chin ?????Quote:
Originally Posted by kingfrnk
Tszyu down twice in the first round by Hurtado. Weak chin ?????
Archie Moore down three times in first round by Durelle. Weak chin?????
What is the criteria for having a weak chin???????
Riddick Bowe, Amir Kahn...
Everytime I watched a Muhammed Ali fight he hit the canvas, so i'm gonna say Ali.
Wlad, RJJr
Acelino Freitas. Chin or heart?
Kelcie Banks.....chin made oof lego's :fight:
And what fight is that, with Ali hitting the canvas?Quote:
Originally Posted by Slowmotion426
You know if you examine your boxing knowledge carefully, it will tell you that the truth favors the opposite of your statement.
Let's go from the latest KD of Ali to the earliest -
1. Chuck Wepner,
2. Joe Frazier 1,
3. Henry Cooper 1,
4. Sonny Banks.
Did I miss anything? I am guessing you watched the Wepner fight... right?
If anything, Ali was saved by his granite chin from defeat, one too many times to his detriment. Instead of getting KO'ed and receive a lesser beating, he ends up winning or otherwise, but be desperately absorbing a tremendous battering.
It can account partially if not totally to the Parkinson's disease that Muhammad Ali is afflicted with nowadays. So in retrospect... granite chins are a blessing and a curse to a boxer. It is a matter of “delicate” balance. The slightest tip to any side can cause a lifetime of glory, or a lifetime of horror!
It was heart, he took everything Corrales and Barrios had to throw at him, he just quit everytime he was truly tested. The Barrios fight was his high point and the Juan Diaz fight was his low point...it's a shame he had so much talent and never reached his potential.Quote:
Originally Posted by DAWGSWIN
Also Wladimir Klitschko's chin isn't THAT bad....Clifford Ettienne's chin was faaaaar more fucked up than Wlad's and RJJ's chin wasn't an issue until he got blindsided by Tarver. I think you can see Wlad took some pretty solid shots off of Sam Peter (the legal ones at least), Lamon Brewster (in the first fight), and Corie Sanders...he took one shot (a left cross) right on the button and got back up....his legs and psyche didn't keep him up long but he got right back up.
It was against Jameel Mcline with the 1st punch of the fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bookkeeper
Has anyone seen Grants ko loss to Guinn? That was as brutal as some of the stuff you see on ogrish.
Wlad's chin isn't great but not quite glass either. Everyone who has floored or KO'd him are big punchers and he is in the hardest punching division at the end of the day. Roy Jones was never really troubled until he lost all the weight to make Lightheavy again and I truly believe that is what weakened him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft
My vote goes for Amir Khan. He's been floored off basically journeymen and viciously KO'd by an unknown.
Some weak chins, some great fighters.
Tommy Morrison
Wlad Klitschko
Tony Tubbs
Terry Norris
Julian Jackson
Calvin Grove
i know the fighter ime about 2 say is not a major boxer but amir khans has a glass chin. prescott wobbled him off a jab.
Charles Brewer.I really liked Brewer,very exciting,sharp hitter and would sell out for his offence in an instant.Tough mentality but he could be touched when you least expected it...made him very TV friendly coming up.
My good freind from Brooklyn.. Mark Breland had a very suspect chin. Lou Duva's frist World champoin Johnny "Bump City" Bumphus had a weak beard and the "Black Mamba" Roger Mayweathers' chin was as soft as his the pillow he sleeps with.
Tommy Morrison, Micheal Moorer, Wlad Klit, Tommy Hearns, Terry Norris, , Zab Judah,
Tommy Morrison and Michael Moorer both were knocked out 3 times. Moorer was knocked out By Foreman, Holyfield and David Tua and in the Tua fight he was past his prime. Morrison was knocked out by Mercer after he gassed himself out, Lewis in a fight he didnt seem to be into, and by Micheal Bent a highly regarded amatuer fighter who he looked past, Yeah that really is having a bad chin isnt it?
Here is a better list than anybody has given this far. Archie Moore was knocked out numerous times and knocked down numerous times in his prime when he was a middleweight by average fighters. You will never hear how bad his chin aws because it proves how overrated Marciano was, it took him 9 rounds of punching to knocked out a 40 year old middleweight who was knocked out alot faster in his prime. Jersey Joe Walcott was knocked out 6 or more times as well but again just to prove how great Marciano was people overrated Walcotts boxing skill and chin
Olev Maskaev was knocked out 7 or so times and for the most part by hacks, Cory "T-Rex" Sanders iced him, Lance Whitaker, Oliver McCall, Sam "The fat bum" Peter yet he keeps getting title shots. Must be because he is european. Lennox Lewis was knocked out 2 times in his career by one punch by guys not knock for being huge punchers. John Ruiz, he was only knocked out one time but that is because he doesnt fight anymore. He gets in the ring and grabs and rubs against his opponent, The moment he tried to be a real boxer he get wacked in 20 seconds
Of course we have Wladimir Klitcshko, One of the most overrated fighter of all time besides Rocky Marciano. When you touch Wlad no matter who you his knees buckle and he runs away.
WHat about Lennox Lewis? He was sparked cold from a few shots.
OK GeorgeForeman8....say what you will about whoever you want to but understand that when you post stuff like saying Wladimir and Rocky Marciano are overrated then you're going to get on my bad side.
Rocky is overrated huh? I guess that's what beating everyone you ever fought will get you ;)
Wladimir has only been KO'd by big time punchers (bar the Purrity fight and he was gassed out then). Sure his chin ain't the greatest but he has taken some HUGE shots and stayed up...in the first Lamon Brewster fight he caught a HUGE left hook and he stayed up until Lamon followed up on him.
Has no one has said Ken Norton?!?!?! Earnie Shavers as well!
Lennox's chin wasn't all that bad...he's 1 of only 3 guys who was able to take Vitali's bombs
Where?Quote:
Originally Posted by GeorgeForeman8