lol yea im from uk and i dont diss american fighters i dont know whats hes got against fighters over here
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lol yea im from uk and i dont diss american fighters i dont know whats hes got against fighters over here
Takaloo had to pull out of the fight with a hand injury after hurting it in training.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sweet_T
hes like the American version of "ROYAL" ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
yes ur right there saddo ;)
Oh thats a shame. I like Takaloo.Quote:
Originally Posted by thegreatsd
Hi Saddo, thanks for the compliment.
i guess I just saw Clinton as a bit of a pretender. To me, judging on this one fight, he looked poor and lacked power. I was screaming from round one for him to use the uppercut as Johnson was open for it. Woods only used the uppercut in one round. Johnson looked the moe acomplished fighter and Woods looked like a he was trying hard. Woods took his shots well, Ill give him that.
Woods is tall but would he have to power to hurt Calzaghe if he couldnt sting Johnson.
Well, at least Woods doesnt have to get his IBF tattoo adjusted!
I'll have a bet (sig bet, remember them?) with anyone here and say Calzaghe will beat Woods easily.
Tc
no problem mate nice to see you around ;)
ok here are some photos of the fights last night....
Clintons...
http://www.saddoboxing.com/3779-boxi...ntroversy.html
undercard....
http://www.saddoboxing.com/3780-mbay...ing-crown.html
Finally got around to watching the fight this afternoon, and OMG what a fight. I don't care how good Toney-Peter was, this is certainly the best fight of the weekend, and Woods avenged his previous defeats very well.
While I was surprised at Mickey Vann's scorecard, especially as he was in there near the commentators, I thought Clinton edged it, and I had it 115-113 to Woods, though quite a few of the rounds could have been ties, and gone either way.
What I was most impressed with was Woods' heart after that dreadful 9th for him. His eyes were glazed, his arms were by his side, and Johnson caught him with at least 10 big shots in that round. A few more shots and perhaps Clinton might have gone, especially with around 1 /12 minutes of the round to go, but Johnson didn't have the stamina to finish him off, and that came back to bite him.
Overall, I think Woods was superb, he put everything into it and beat the fighter who had such a big mental advantage because of the two previous results, and history will show Clinton to have beaten his bogey fighter.
Whether it's Calzaghe or RJJ next, I think Woods hasdone superbly to keep his fingers around the strap, and the critics off his back. One interesting remark from Richard Poxon, Woods' trainer as they went into that final round, was: "If you do it now you'll be the best champion that this country has."
Whether they know a clash of the titans between Calzaghe Woods is on the cards, or Poxon was just using the animosity between them as a motivating factor, it certainly seemedto do the business and bring Woods home ahead. And good on him!
This is boxing... you want wrestling... I don't care how hard what Johnson was throwing was... they weren't getting throw whilst Clinton was scoring... end of... ::**Quote:
Originally Posted by Sweet_T
Who did you pick again? yeah...Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
the two American Judges gave it to Woods by 2 and 4 rounds... the one ENGLISH judge gave it to Johnson... We all know who Mr Warren had on his Agenda to win... who was he going to buy out? the American Judges...
Englands biggest promoter didn't want Woods to win... he looses a big fight for Joe C now... are you honestly telling me that Johnson was the one out to get screwed?... I can't think of a stronger case of an English promoter wanting an American fighter to win... Woods was up against far more than just johnson... Mickey Vann for one... ::**
Nicely put :coolclick:Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
Well, the champion gave us a great lesson in surviving against a 37 year old.
Tc
He's 34 himself fella ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sweet_T
i thought it was a gd contested fight with wood winning it in the closing rounds but i was impressed by johnson as this is the first time ive seen him i didnt no wot to expect but i was suprised by the power he managed to throw in his punches right up to round 9 which wood took realy well but my point is im suprised he's picked up so many losses as i cant see many fighters dealing with him. So wots the deal with him is he just an average fighter that got lucky wins over jones nd tarver or does he underestimate alot of opponents
More like he has improved with age and has picke dup more skills and improved with experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by warreng
Do I detect some sort of agenda? you loose Money on this fight or something?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sweet_T
Woods' is 34 and won a tough fight against an experienced Veteran who Knocked out Roy Jones and beat Tarver...
Credit were credit is due...
Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
Damn Right Adam
Yes, I pay credit to Woods chin.
No agender here.
I just dont think it was a spectacular defence of his belt.
I like to see a champion being forceful and holding the centre of the ring. Dominating almost.
Woods didnt.
Tc
damn right he didn't... he beat Johnson the way he wanted too... not fight fans.
I felt it was a great fight... a war but good clean boxing... no shite. More than his Chin won the fight for him... ::** ;)
I'm not sure there were too many people who were expecting a spectacular defence, of the title, and Woods is not the kind of fighter to go toe to toe in the middle with somebody stronger than him, and who is better at it than him. He played to his strengths, and beat a fighter who had an unlucky draw and a victory over him. Johnson was also the man, after Tarver's destrucion by Hopkins, who was probably the biggest challenge to him at light heavy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sweet_T
He would, easily, johonson is to old, and woods just, well calzaghe is gunna land punch after punch on him, woods has zero defenceQuote:
Originally Posted by nigel2smooth79
I had that fight 115-114 johson, but was very close, how the f*** that last judge had it 116-112 is bullsh*t
I never said that. No since lying when I've said enuff real stuff to incrimnate me anyhow. I did say Lacy would beat Calzaghe, but he did not, and I did say Mayorga would beat Oscar, and he did not. I also said Cotto would beat Malinaggi, Bernard would defeat Tarver, Mosley would beat Vargas both times, etc. You lot of Brits all cheer and throw it in our faces that Hatton BEAT Collazo, and act like Hatton actually won the fight. You also claim that Calzaghe is unbeatable from 168-175, and Bernard, and Johnson have been dodgin him for years, which is laughable. So, no I don't hate all British fighters, just hate your condescending attitudes about them and their American opponents.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saddo
Because you don't hype any of your fighters do you? (the first 3/4 of your message suggests other wise) :-* :P
never really see any brit throw it any ones face that hatton 'beat' collazo lol coz jardly anyone in amreica give him any respect untill after that fight lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
well calzaghe is the ebst 168, clinton is the best 175, so if u dissagree with calzaghe being unbeatbale atm from 168-175 u think clinton can beat him o0?
imo hopkins doged him for yrs, had every thing he asked for, the fight even in the usa, then double his amount to $6mill at the last min, i mean jesus who did he think he was lol had like 2 good wins in tito and maybe johnson then (not sure if johnson was after)
never seen any one say johnson had avoided calzaghe tho...
No one remembers such class threads as "HATTON NEW WELTERWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD!!!" and you all sayin, who cares if Collazo got jobbed, officially Hatton won, that's all that matters. Fukin Calzaghe ain't even in the same league as Bernard Hopkins. Bernard IS the best LH in the world, Not Clinton Woods. Bernard defeated the best LH, Antonio Tarver, who was more of a dangerous opponent for him than Joe Calzaghe, and more proven. Stop just makin crap up, its ridiculous. Point is UK is much smaller than the US, so they are not gonna produce near as many great fighters. You've got Hatton, Calzaghe, and that's about it. Harrison and Woods are good fighters, but not best at their weight class.Quote:
Originally Posted by Preme
Hello, first post so go easy fella's! I was at the Woods/Johnson fight and I thought Clinton shaded it but hey, I'm no expert. My eyesight aint too good either as I never noticed Hatton in Woods corner! Very interesting to read the posts in this thread about the fight. I think Calzaghe would beat the both of them and hasn't Bernard retired in any case? JC can boss the LH division for a couple of years imo when he moves up but I think he'll struggle to get the fights as he can make good pro's look so bad with his speed and stance.
As for Khan, he needs to cross the pond and box some rounds v a few durable old sweats as sooner or later he's gonna come into a battle and have no well to dip into.
Good show and Woods/Johnson was absorbing stuff, well done Clinton. Any news on the protest from Glencoffe's camp?
haha my dad said exactly the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saddo
I told him the guy who gave it to Johnson referees all Hatton's fights and he just goes, "tosser".
Woods was fucking tremendous the other night. You'll very rarely see me invested in a fight so much that I'll be shouting at the tv. I was sitting there shouting, "Go on, Clinton. Get in".
Mum thought I'd gone off the deep end.
It's amazing how much Woods has improved. So pleased for him. Can't be many nicer blokes in the sport. Talk about digging deep. To come back and win 3 on the bounce after the 9th was proper grit.
Depends on which Calzaghe shows up really. He's not exactly the posterboy for consistency. He does generally get himself up for the big fights, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1-hit Wonder
Danger for him is underestimating Woods. Judging by his post fight comments, he reckons he's miles ahead of Clinton. That could be his undoing if he goes into the fight with that attitude.
Personally, I'd be cheering Woods on. I think it's fantastic that he has improved so much with age.
You know there's a problem when we expect judges to lean a certain way regardless of the action in the ring :DQuote:
Originally Posted by 1-hit Wonder
Was thinking the same thing. A world title fight between two world class operators takes second billing to a novice participating in what amounts to a "squash match". Khan took the journeyman out in, what, a minute?Quote:
Originally Posted by Saddo
Least the geniuses at ITV saved the best until last.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saddo
One of these days someone in the UK will get boxing coverage right.
These channels need real boxing fans to advise them. I mean, Sky miss out on a good percentage of the big fights. Given the minimal coverage of boxing we get, they should at least have the decency to show the big fights from the US. I mean, why not show Toney-Peter live at 4am? It's not like they're worried about ratings at 4am, in a competitive time slot.
that is actually a very valid point mate ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Clydey_2_Times
OK my mistake ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
i tend to flip past your posts if im honest :)
so let me get this right your way of fighting these evil brits who claim all this is to post about i robbery of a fight you havent even watched or know nothing about as below...
errr ok carry on mate... just dont expect people to take you serious ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
what british fighters do you like. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
Mate your eyesight must be bad if you ddn't see his big moon face ;D ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by bomber65
You couldn't see his face underneath all of the fat... :P
I honestly didn't notice Hatton, and I wasn't that far away from the ring ;D
True, I shouldn't rush to judgement on a fight I had no way of watching, and did not get to see, just Johnson was screwed on that draw against Clinton, and UK judges aren't exactly known for givin foreigners a fair shake. Not that U.S. Judges are any better, aside from the Hatton vs Collazo gift. Now as far as UK fighters I like, well, there aren't many top UK fighters of the recent ones: I hated NAZ, Hate Hatton, Nuetral on Calzaghe but have gotten tired of all the nonsense God like hype around him, grew to respect Lennox Lewis, and I like Scott Harrison. Harrison is not the best at his weight class, but he's a tough gritty SOB. Also I've grown very tired of the "Calzaghe is sooo above all U.S. 168-175 lb fighters, and because he defeated Jeff lacy is now an umbeatable God". So there ya have it Saddo. O0Quote:
Originally Posted by Saddo
But can you actually pretend like Calzaghe isn't ahead of all the 168-175 lbers today??? Who is better.. Let alone an American fighter..
Bernard, Roy Jones, Glen Johnson, Antonio Tarver...shall I keep going?Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
All these people getting up for Roy Jones' leftovers is astounding ;)
How great of a champion Woods is :) Shows you how good he(Woods) truly is, and I wonder how many so called experts who called Woods "just another bum" feel years later when he's champ and just defeated Glen Johnson.
Of course they are going to say Glen peaked when he beat Roy and Tarver ::** And that Woods got him late ::**
Old Roy Jones is still enuff to beat Joe Calzaghe. That's all I know. Did you see what Roy did to Clinton Woods a few years back?Quote:
Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes