Is WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO the next MUHAMMAD ALI

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Originally Posted by hottestfighter

it's not wladimir fault if america best fighter is chris byrd
wladimir targeted to fight america best fighter, so if america best fighter is too weak for for the small younger weaker klitschko brother. that america fault

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He didn't fight Brewster again when he had the chance. Why?

I have been into the cabinet and quite tanked...but I have read this whole entire thread and if Saddo has a Belt for the most idiotic post/thread I think it would be most appropriate. If I could sad click I would sad click everyone involved in this thread. Including myself. Sad click for all of us.

Audley Harrison lost against Danny Williams because he was upset about him not getting the correct afro sheen for his cornrows.. he lost against Dominic Guinn because of too much afro Sheen which made him weigh 20 pounds more. Audley shaves his head he becomes a better fighter its that simple!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Starr

Audley Harrison lost against Danny Williams because he was upset about him not getting the correct afro sheen for his cornrows.. he lost against Dominic Guinn because of too much afro Sheen which made him weigh 20 pounds more. Audley shaves his head he becomes a better fighter its that simple!!!!!

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Originally Posted by boozeboxer

I have been into the cabinet and quite tanked...but I have read this whole entire thread and if Saddo has a Belt for the most idiotic post/thread I think it would be most appropriate. If I could sad click I would sad click everyone involved in this thread. Including myself. Sad click for all of us.

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Ronnie why the sad face??? You like Hatton don't you?? Perhaps I can come over there and see him some day.

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Originally Posted by RONNIE

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Originally Posted by Starr

Audley Harrison lost against Danny Williams because he was upset about him not getting the correct afro sheen for his cornrows.. he lost against Dominic Guinn because of too much afro Sheen which made him weigh 20 pounds more. Audley shaves his head he becomes a better fighter its that simple!!!!!

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You mean you don't know? :o

THIS MEANS NO SENSE CONFUSED??????????
MY DOG MAKE MORE SENSE WOOF WOOF! MY DOG HUNGRY THE LAST QUESTION I UNDERSTAND IN THIS FORUM IS WHY DIDN'T WLAD FIGHT LAMON WHEN HAD THE CHANCE.
ACTUALY WLAD ONLY WANTED TO FIGHT LAMON TO GET REVENGE BUT LAMON PULLED OUT FOR HIS COUNSIN AND LIED THAT HE CAN'T HAVE THE FIGHT BECAUSE HE JUST COME OUT OF HOSPITAL. LAMON COUSIN CHRIS BYRD WANTED REVENGE AND SOMEHOW DREAM IT MAY HAPPEN BOTH COUSIN DREAMS WERE SHATTERED IN LESS THAN 1 MONTH TIME TO DEFEND TITLE

Vitaly has the chin and has never been defeated or outboxed.

Ali had troubles with Henry C. and Chuvalo; seriously You think that Vitaly would have problem with Cooper? You think that Ali would beat Klitschos? I say that it would be hard fights.

You Klitschko doubters: Wlad had not had much experience with getting hit because he is so good. Now he has adjusted and has more coping skills.

And: Corrie Sanders, Lennox, Vitaly are the Greats of recent time. almost EVERYONE was knocked down by Sanders (exception 1 random dude, and Vitaly (but it could have happened) Rahman was down early. So losing to this man with superhuman punching power is n dishonor; I think ALi-Sanders would be a fabulous contest.

Ali-Lennox = even who knows; Lennox is so huge.
Ali - Sanders = even
Ali - Vitaly = Vitaly wins I mean Ali cant knock him out; I mean Vitaly when champ. Still Ali being ALi it could be even.

In any case I dont think that our greats would be beaten by the best of the past. But man would I love to see it!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hope there is a heaven where boxing is allowed.

I think Wlad is the best of today's current Heavyweights. But the next Ali? Wlad ain't even the next Tim Witherspoon. A fighter who if around today, would clean out the division.

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Originally Posted by RONNIE

Well first of all, let look at the facts!
Ali won a gold medal at 18 years old (light-heayweight boxing)
Wladmir Klitschko won a gold medal at 20 yeaars old (super-heayweight boxing)
Ali become heavyweight champion at 22 years old
Wladimir become heavyweight champion at 24 years
3 years after ali became youngest heavyweight champion, Ali was stripped of from his title due to racism, at the age of 29 ali lost his first fight after becoming the heavyweight champion of the world but reclaim his title 3 years later from the great george foreman.
Wladimir lost his first fight at age 27 after becoming the heayweight champion but also reclaimed his title 3 years later from the longest reigning champion (chris byrd).
Ali was very tall for a man in the 1960's
Wladimir is very tall for a man in the 20 century.
Both boxer are very good looking
Ali is very intellingent as we know it
Wladimir is very intellingent Don't fortget his p.h.d
Both boxer have the best personality ever in the world, as well as one of the nicest people ever they are.
Ali had contact with political leader like malcolm X also Wladimir brother was trying to be a mayor of of kiev, my point is Wladimir has contact with political leaders too.
And my main point is there wladimir and ali are so similar that the only diffferent between ali and wladimir is that Ali has been there and done it and wladimir is going through the same path at this present time.
NOT JUST BOXER!
NOT JUST SPORTMAN!
But, the whole world Should watch out for Wladimir because he is going to be the next GREATEST
NOT JUST THE GREATEST BOXER
NOT JUST THE GREATEST SPORTMAN
BUT THE GREATEST PERSON TO EVER LIVE

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What the fwock you been smokin' mate? :-\

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

I think Wlad is the best of today's current Heavyweights. But the next Ali? Wlad ain't even the next Tim Witherspoon. A fighter who if around today, would clean out the division.

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cUT THE BULL WITH THE USA FIGHTER DOMINATING THE DIVISION THERE NOT 1 USA HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION SO STOP IMAGING SOMETHING THAT DOES NOT EXIST. U WANA TALK SILLY AND IMAGINE SILLY STUFF IMAGINE IF I WAS BORN IN 1917 I WOULD HAVE CRUSHED JOE LOUIS
IMAGINE IF I WAS BORN IN 1966 I WOULD HAVE STOPPED TYSON FROM BEING YOUNGEST HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD.

Give me a break!!!!!!!!

You think Ali would win clearly over Wladimir K, when ali had to go the distance with Doug Jones, Ernie Terrell etc, etc why would WK who his like 40 pounds heavier and expertly trained and fed lose to ALI?

ALI and WK (VK or Sanders or Lennox or Bowe) is even.

Wlad is the greatest!

(Sanders was the greatest when he beat him Lennox said he avoided Sanders)

KEN NORTON WASN'T THE GREATEST FOR BEATING ALI
HASIM RAHMAN WASN'T THE GREATEST FOR BEATING LENNOX
SO Y IS SANDERS GREATEST FOR BEATING

BEFORE U START WITH THAT REMATCH THING THERE ARE SOO MANY AMATEUR FIGHT, LENNOX AND ALI HAVE LOST AND NEVER HAD A REMATCHED

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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK

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Originally Posted by RONNIE

Well first of all, let look at the facts!
Ali won a gold medal at 18 years old (light-heayweight boxing)
Wladmir Klitschko won a gold medal at 20 yeaars old (super-heayweight boxing)
Ali become heavyweight champion at 22 years old
Wladimir become heavyweight champion at 24 years
3 years after ali became youngest heavyweight champion, Ali was stripped of from his title due to racism, at the age of 29 ali lost his first fight after becoming the heavyweight champion of the world but reclaim his title 3 years later from the great george foreman.
Wladimir lost his first fight at age 27 after becoming the heayweight champion but also reclaimed his title 3 years later from the longest reigning champion (chris byrd).
Ali was very tall for a man in the 1960's
Wladimir is very tall for a man in the 20 century.
Both boxer are very good looking
Ali is very intellingent as we know it
Wladimir is very intellingent Don't fortget his p.h.d
Both boxer have the best personality ever in the world, as well as one of the nicest people ever they are.
Ali had contact with political leader like malcolm X also Wladimir brother was trying to be a mayor of of kiev, my point is Wladimir has contact with political leaders too.
And my main point is there wladimir and ali are so similar that the only diffferent between ali and wladimir is that Ali has been there and done it and wladimir is going through the same path at this present time.
NOT JUST BOXER!
NOT JUST SPORTMAN!
But, the whole world Should watch out for Wladimir because he is going to be the next GREATEST
NOT JUST THE GREATEST BOXER
NOT JUST THE GREATEST SPORTMAN
BUT THE GREATEST PERSON TO EVER LIVE

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What the fwock you been smokin' mate? :-\

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Why do I feel like the most sober and able person on this thread. What the hell is wrong with you all?! Comparing any Russian to Ali?>?? Despite what they want to claim, the sport isnt today what it was then. Ali is the greatest ever. That is why ESPN classic is always showing Ali reruns. Not Vittali re runs. Stop wasting time on this lame asz thread.

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Originally Posted by boozeboxer

Why do I feel like the most sober and able person on this thread. What the hell is wrong with you all?! Comparing any Russian to Ali?>?? Despite what they want to claim, the sport isnt today what it was then. Ali is the greatest ever. That is why ESPN classic is always showing Ali reruns. Not Vittali re runs. Stop wasting time on this lame asz thread.

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Not that it matters BUT it's Wladdy whos in question. :(

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Originally Posted by RONNIE

Well first of all, let look at the facts!
Ali won a gold medal at 18 years old (light-heayweight boxing)
Wladmir Klitschko won a gold medal at 20 yeaars old (super-heayweight boxing)
Ali become heavyweight champion at 22 years old
Wladimir become heavyweight champion at 24 years
3 years after ali became youngest heavyweight champion, Ali was stripped of from his title due to racism, at the age of 29 ali lost his first fight after becoming the heavyweight champion of the world but reclaim his title 3 years later from the great george foreman.
Wladimir lost his first fight at age 27 after becoming the heayweight champion but also reclaimed his title 3 years later from the longest reigning champion (chris byrd).
Ali was very tall for a man in the 1960's
Wladimir is very tall for a man in the 20 century.
Both boxer are very good looking
Ali is very intellingent as we know it
Wladimir is very intellingent Don't fortget his p.h.d
Both boxer have the best personality ever in the world, as well as one of the nicest people ever they are.
Ali had contact with political leader like malcolm X also Wladimir brother was trying to be a mayor of of kiev, my point is Wladimir has contact with political leaders too.
And my main point is there wladimir and ali are so similar that the only diffferent between ali and wladimir is that Ali has been there and done it and wladimir is going through the same path at this present time.
NOT JUST BOXER!
NOT JUST SPORTMAN!
But, the whole world Should watch out for Wladimir because he is going to be the next GREATEST
NOT JUST THE GREATEST BOXER
NOT JUST THE GREATEST SPORTMAN
BUT THE GREATEST PERSON TO EVER LIVE

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Holy shit!! Its Mr Goebbels from the Wlad propaganda Ministry of talking utter shite!!

How on earth can you compare Wlad Klit with a great like Ali?? ::**

Not even worth comparing IMO...Ali was a far greater fighter....

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

I think Wlad is the best of today's current Heavyweights.  But the next Ali?  Wlad ain't even the next Tim Witherspoon.  A fighter who if around today, would clean out the division.

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cUT THE BULL WITH THE USA FIGHTER DOMINATING THE DIVISION THERE NOT 1 USA HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION SO STOP IMAGING SOMETHING THAT DOES NOT EXIST. U WANA TALK SILLY AND IMAGINE SILLY STUFF IMAGINE IF I WAS BORN IN 1917 I WOULD HAVE CRUSHED JOE LOUIS
IMAGINE IF I WAS BORN IN 1966 I WOULD HAVE STOPPED TYSON FROM BEING YOUNGEST HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD.

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What's really funny is that you actually call them champions.  And believe it.  They ain't champions.  There title holders.  And weak ones at that.  Wlad as I said before, is the best one of them.  But his IBF title came from the no punch, much smaller Chris Byrd.  Still I do give him some credit.  The WBC title holder is Oleg Maskaev.  Yes, that Oleg Maskaev.  The one who's been laid out by Lance Whitaker, Kirk Johnson and Corey Sanders.  He got his title from Mr. Mediocre himself Hasim Rahman.  Rahman never even won the title.  it was given to him when Vitaly retired.  Yet, Oleg calls himself champion.  How sad.  Than we got the WBA crappyass champion.  Nicolay Valuev.  The man is ranked 10th in the division by the very respected Ring magazine.  Yet the man he beat (I mean the man who's title he stoled) John Ruiz is ranked 6th.  Why is that?  Cuz he's fuckin garbage, that's why.  Hell, Larry Donald whipped his ass, but was robbed of the win.  As for the other clown, Sergei Liakhovich.  Not only did Mo Harris knock him out, but he holds the WBO title.  Why is the WBO of a sudden starting to get recognized?  He shouldn't even be mentioned.  What's next?  I got to find out who holds the IBO, WBU , XXX titles?  Bottom line is todays heavyweights suck.  I don't care were there from.  If Tim Witherspoon or even Tony Tucker were around they would knock out all these chumps.

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

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Originally Posted by RONNIE

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

I think Wlad is the best of today's current Heavyweights. But the next Ali? Wlad ain't even the next Tim Witherspoon. A fighter who if around today, would clean out the division.

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cUT THE BULL WITH THE USA FIGHTER DOMINATING THE DIVISION THERE NOT 1 USA HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION SO STOP IMAGING SOMETHING THAT DOES NOT EXIST. U WANA TALK SILLY AND IMAGINE SILLY STUFF IMAGINE IF I WAS BORN IN 1917 I WOULD HAVE CRUSHED JOE LOUIS
IMAGINE IF I WAS BORN IN 1966 I WOULD HAVE STOPPED TYSON FROM BEING YOUNGEST HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD.

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What's really funny is that you actually call them champions. And believe it. They ain't champions. There title holders. And weak ones at that. Wlad as I said before, is the best one of them. But his IBF title came from the no punch, much smaller Chris Byrd. Still I do give him some credit. The WBC title holder is Oleg Maskaev. Yes, that Oleg Maskaev. The one who's been laid out by Lance Whitaker, Kirk Johnson and Corey Sanders. He got his title from Mr. Mediocre himself Hasim Rahman. Rahman never even won the title. it was given to him when Vitaly retired. Yet, Oleg calls himself champion. How sad. Than we got the WBA crappyass champion. Nicolay Valuev. The man is ranked 10th in the division by the very respected Ring magazine. Yet the man he beat (I mean the man who's title he stoled) John Ruiz is ranked 6th. Why is that? Cuz he's F****** garbage, that's why. Hell, Larry Donald whipped his a**, but was robbed of the win. As for the other clown, Sergei Liakhovich. Not only did Mo Harris knock him out, but he holds the WBO title. Why is the WBO of a sudden starting to get recognized? He shouldn't even be mentioned. What's next? I got to find out who holds the IBO, WBU , XXX titles? Bottom line is todays heavyweights suck. I don't care were there from. If Tim Witherspoon or even Tony Tucker were around they would knock out all these chumps.

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cUT THE BULL WITH THE USA FIGHTER DOMINATING THE DIVISION THERE NOT 1 USA HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION SO STOP IMAGING SOMETHING THAT DOES NOT EXIST. U WANA TALK SILLY AND IMAGINE SILLY STUFF IMAGINE IF I WAS BORN IN 1917 I WOULD HAVE CRUSHED JOE LOUIS
IMAGINE IF I WAS BORN IN 1966 I WOULD HAVE STOPPED TYSON FROM BEING YOUNGEST HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD.

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wlad is ok and he is chinny u think he would have guts to go 15 hard rounds like ali had to do ?? wlad wouldnt even be in my top 50 list of greatest heavyweights u say ken norton wasnt greatest for beating ali actually alot of people think norton should of won atleast 2 out of 3 fights he went 15 rounds with prime holmes and was in possibly greatest 15th round of all time and who hell should lennox have rematched as amateur please tell me id love to know lewis beat almost everyone out there sure some of people he beat like holy and tyson was out of there prime but a wins a win ali beat one of greatest and strongest opp out there foreman fraizer norton liston patterson quarry ellis cooper and alot more who hell has wlad beaten that great samuel peter ?? wasnt wlad knocked down twice or 3 times en route to decision he beat byrd yea but byrd isnt that great he beat an old ray mercer wlad was knocked out in 2 rounds against sanders and was tko by brewster in 5 rounds ali and wlad shouldnt even be comparable wlad is light years away from being as great as ali

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Originally Posted by RONNIE

cUT THE BULL WITH THE USA FIGHTER DOMINATING THE DIVISION THERE NOT 1 USA HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION SO STOP IMAGING SOMETHING THAT DOES NOT EXIST. U WANA TALK SILLY AND IMAGINE SILLY STUFF IMAGINE IF I WAS BORN IN 1917 I WOULD HAVE CRUSHED JOE LOUIS
IMAGINE IF I WAS BORN IN 1966 I WOULD HAVE STOPPED TYSON FROM BEING YOUNGEST HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD.

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No you wouldn't have...you are delusional and need psychiatric help

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Joe Louis is the Greatest of All Time

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No he isn't Mike Tyson is...LOL!!! Just Kidding

Though I do feel for purposes of comparison, The George Foreman who fought from 1987-1994 would KO Wlad Klit today

Wlad is good don't get wrong, but Klit is nothing more than a fashionable outfit in an unfashionable time.

I despise Lennox Lewis but Lewis on any given day would be Wlad as well, remember timing is everything and Wlad is a big fish in a small pond..

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Originally Posted by plinden

Ali-Lennox = even who knows; Lennox is so huge
Ali - Sanders = even
Ali - Vitaly = Vitaly wins I mean Ali cant knock him out; I mean Vitaly when champ. Still Ali being ALi it could be

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Ali-Sanders= even>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :gay-as-steelie: + :stupid: + :sadclick: = :fyou:

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Originally Posted by plinden

Ali-Lennox = even who knows; Lennox is so huge
Ali - Sanders = even
Ali - Vitaly = Vitaly wins I mean Ali cant knock him out; I mean Vitaly when champ. Still Ali being ALi it could be

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Ali-Sanders= even>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  :gay-as-steelie: +  :stupid: +  :sadclick: =   :fyou:

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wtf plinden are u crazy vitaly couldnt even beat lewis at his worst so how hell would vitaly beat ali thats funniest comment ive ever heard ;) sanders vs ali even lol u must be joking right u cant be serious

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

No he isn't Mike Tyson is...LOL!!! Just Kidding

Though I do feel for purposes of comparison, The George Foreman who fought from 1987-1994 would KO Wlad Klit today

Wlad is good don't get wrong, but Klit is nothing more than a fashionable outfit in an unfashionable time.

I despise Lennox Lewis but Lewis on any given day would be Wlad as well, remember timing is everything and Wlad is a big fish in a small pond..

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No George Foreman that came back and was old and fat doesn't beat Wlad...Wlad could stay away from him for 10-12 rounds.

PRIME Foreman is different he's one of the greatest of all time

Wlad is getting to the point where he's as good in a given fight as Lennox Lewis...the domination of Byrd was pretty good

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

No he isn't Mike Tyson is...LOL!!! Just Kidding

Though I do feel for purposes of comparison, The George Foreman who fought from 1987-1994 would KO Wlad Klit today

Wlad is good don't get wrong, but Klit is nothing more than a fashionable outfit in an unfashionable time.

I despise Lennox Lewis but Lewis on any given day would be Wlad as well, remember timing is everything and Wlad is a big fish in a small pond..

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No George Foreman that came back and was old and fat doesn't beat Wlad...Wlad could stay away from him for 10-12 rounds.

PRIME Foreman is different he's one of the greatest of all time

Wlad is getting to the point where he's as good in a given fight as Lennox Lewis...the domination of Byrd was pretty good

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to be honest wlad is chinny and i think even old foreman would land big blow sooner or later and ko wlad

Chinny? Perhaps BUT he's no dummy he is athletic enough to stay away

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Chinny? Perhaps BUT he's no dummy he is athletic enough to stay away

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i know what ur saying and i almost agree but i think foreman would atleast land couple bombs on wlad and question is could wlads chin hold up to the bombs ??

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

No he isn't Mike Tyson is...LOL!!! Just Kidding

Though I do feel for purposes of comparison, The George Foreman who fought from 1987-1994 would KO Wlad Klit today

Wlad is good don't get wrong, but Klit is nothing more than a fashionable outfit in an unfashionable time.

I despise Lennox Lewis but Lewis on any given day would be Wlad as well, remember timing is everything and Wlad is a big fish in a small pond..

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No George Foreman that came back and was old and fat doesn't beat Wlad...Wlad could stay away from him for 10-12 rounds.

PRIME Foreman is different he's one of the greatest of all time

Wlad is getting to the point where he's as good in a given fight as Lennox Lewis...the domination of Byrd was pretty good

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The 2nd career of Foreman was more than just a PR stunt and a cute public interest story for over 40yr olds

George's chin from 1987-1994 was superb..I would say the best at that time...His heart and determination at that time was rivaled only by Evander Holyfield, say what you want about OL fat George but he Paced himself and had conserved his energy by staying amazingly composed, focused and relaxed, not to mention he had Helacious and deceptive punching Power George didnt have to be accurate with his punches he could KO you with a glancing Blow.

George could Absorb the best of what Wlad would have to offer and keep coming forward until Wlad starts huffing and puffing gets sloppy and George catches him, then gets Wlad all flustered gets Knocked down and dosen't have the heart to get up off the canvas and win..

Michael Moorer could tell Wlad how much George had left in the tank by the time round 10 came along after George was getting tooled on was having a shut-out pitched against him..

I won't argue with you, George ALWAYS could punch but he couldn't move...guys like Briggs and Morrison were able to outbox and outrun Foreman and they were "chinny"

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what things u idiot read what i posted in page before im sorry ur a troll by sounds of it the things u compare are stupid and to even compare wlad and ali in same breath is unbelieveable ..

The facts are no american can beat the russians world champion
and if these champions are poor
how poor does that mae the usa fighjter look like

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The facts are no american can beat the russians world champion
and if these champions are poor
how poor does that mae the usa fighjter look like

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because all hws today are shite hope this helps

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Originally Posted by RONNIE

The facts are no american can beat the russians world champion
and if these champions are poor
how poor does that mae the usa fighjter look like

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but i dont see what this has got to do with ur comment about wlad being next ali

champion are shite???????
so non champions like usa are shite