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Re: Creation and evolution aside,
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Originally Posted by luvfightgame
I dont just accept opinions without facts to back them up. Its just the way I am.
That is very reasonable, and in theory I believe you. Lets look at what you do believe now that you've told us what you don't believe.
Big bang theory?
Evolution meaning change in species, not change within a species?
So where are the facts to support the existence of your "god"? First of all define what you mean by god and then show me the facts to support the existence of god. The Bible proves the existence of god in exactly the same way as the Lord of the Rings books proves the existence of Sauron. It doesnt convince me in the slightest. If you can convince me otherwise then im all ears...
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Re: Creation and evolution aside,
Technically god does exist, but I doubt you brits care to worship Gary Busey
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Re: Creation and evolution aside,
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Originally Posted by raleights
Technically god does exist, but I doubt you brits care to worship Gary Busey
Who in god's name is Gary Busey?
I feel a google search coming on....could this be the elusive eternal omnipresent dude of all dudes and dudettes?? :detective:
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Re: Creation and evolution aside,
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Originally Posted by Missy
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Originally Posted by luvfightgame
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Originally Posted by Missy
How can I be angry at something that doesn't exist. ;)
You have a god because you are mentally weak.
Oh, so you are too tough for God.....
You don't know me to be able to make a judgement about my strength. I doubt if you did you would make that statement, physically or mentally.
I can and you're a spacker.
I don't know what that is................ Anyway think what you want, but it isn't out of weakness. I don't need to present my resume to support my beliefs, but trust me nobody has ever called me weak. Asshole, prick, too aggressive, thickheaded, plenty of names to toss at me, but not once have I ever been called weak.
Never been called a fag either, why do they call you that??
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Re: Creation and evolution aside,
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Originally Posted by Fenster
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Originally Posted by luvfightgame
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Originally Posted by Fenster
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OK then - I was having a poke at everyone who spent pages and pages of threads on this subject (and also the one about creationism v evolution). You were part of it, so I guess I did refer to you as well.
It is all a bit tedious - people with half-baked ideas, others who proceed with unshakeable faith, some who try and dress it up with flawed 'science' and all the rest of it. It is all toe-curlingly earnest - people posting up snippets of information that they have learnt form disreputable sources and then not fully understood.... and all this being seriously presented as the answer to the greatest question in the Unverse (along with a healthy yet truly geekish sense of conspiracy theories, and Da Vinci Code-style stupidity)
And, before you react - I know that I didn't have to enter the thread or post anything. I know that I do not know any of the answers to these questions. I also know that one fo the primary manifestations of religious fascism is a lack of a sense of irony or humour.
Sorry - but you did ask.
:(
You think I don't sense irony or humor? I sense it just fine, you're just not very funny. I am not offended by anyones comments in this discussion. I think it is very ironic and actually moronic for people to claim they have facts which they have never verified, but accept by faith, then poke fun of others who admit they only have faith.
It's not me getting my panties in a bunch,
you and missy, and fenster, throw the 2 sentence snide and insulting comments around. It's a discussion that I would rather spend time on than another prime for prime tyson vs superman. You know that after reading here for awhile you get those out of your system, and you don't get involved in those anymore. I just haven't gotten this one out yet.
If i called you a moronic, gullible, lunatic, c***. That would be an insult.
I ask questions. Sorry if they upset you.
It must be the Atheist religion ;)
You don't upset me fen, but you know darn well you make cynical and snide comments. I apologize for saying 2 sentences, you average 3. 8)
Probably cause i'm a cynical c***. It's true.
It doesn't take many sentences when you're using common sense. ;)
Now that we agree. Your a cock, i'm a nutcase, and we both like to keep our posts short.....
And emma's cock is definitely bigger than Ralieghts. ;D
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Re: Creation and evolution aside,
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Originally Posted by miles
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Originally Posted by raleights
Technically god does exist, but I doubt you brits care to worship Gary Busey
Who in god's name is Gary Busey?
I feel a google search coming on....could this be the elusive eternal omnipresent dude of all dudes and dudettes?? :detective:
You gotta stop watching Korean TV :)
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Re: Creation and evolution aside,
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Originally Posted by miles
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Originally Posted by luvfightgame
I dont just accept opinions without facts to back them up. Its just the way I am.
That is very reasonable, and in theory I believe you. Lets look at what you do believe now that you've told us what you don't believe.
Big bang theory?
Evolution meaning change in species, not change within a species?
So where are the facts to support the existence of your "god"? First of all define what you mean by god and then show me the facts to support the existence of god. The Bible proves the existence of god in exactly the same way as the Lord of the Rings books proves the existence of Sauron. It doesnt convince me in the slightest. If you can convince me otherwise then im all ears...
Well you didn't answer my 2 questions, but here goes.
I define God as the originator of all things. Everything that we see and don't see was made by the creator. That's my definition for this discussion. Facts to support the existence of a creator are everything that you see in your daily life. Highly complex, self repairing, self replicating life forms. You don't believe that the computer your typing on sprang into existence by random chance, why would you think humans did when they are literally hundreds of times more complex than your computer?
Your turn.
Do you believe in the big bang theory?
Do you believe in evolution as change in species?
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Luv, I dig your enthusiasm and I don't expect you to reflect on what you've posted and think to yourself ok I sound like a brainwashed lunatic..
But you should atleast be self-aware, understand that you're coming off as a complete know-it-all
The one thing you should know is that you're a human, and you don't know S***. It's the one thing that binds us all - you have an idea of how we came to be and thats as far as it goes. There's no more that can be said on the subject. Your opinions frighten me and many others on this forum (despite the fact that I know kung fu!) but thats just where we agree to disagree.
It's important that you know yourself, these are just ideas you believe strongly in (which is fine) not actual facts. So it's useless to keep drilling us with the 'idea' that we're all connected, when in reality the only thing that connects us is the internet that WE created :)
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Re: Creation and evolution aside,
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Originally Posted by raleights
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Originally Posted by miles
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Originally Posted by raleights
Technically god does exist, but I doubt you brits care to worship Gary Busey
Who in god's name is Gary Busey?
I feel a google search coming on....could this be the elusive eternal omnipresent dude of all dudes and dudettes?? :detective:
You gotta stop watching Korean TV :)
Hahaha ;D....too gotdam right!!
Ive just returned back here after a lovely 10 days back home. The amount of time I wasted watching crap daytime TV was just fantastic. And I actually understood what the feck they were talking about. They were talking rubbish half the time, but being able to understand the television is an absolute delight!! ;D
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Re: Creation and evolution aside,
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Originally Posted by raleights
Luv, I dig your enthusiasm and I don't expect you to reflect on what you've posted and think to yourself ok I sound like a brainwashed lunatic..
But you should atleast be self-aware, understand that you're coming off as a complete know-it-all
The one thing you should know is that you're a human, and you don't know S***. It's the one thing that binds us all - you have an idea of how we came to be and thats as far as it goes. There's no more that can be said on the subject. Your opinions frighten me and many others on this forum (despite the fact that I know kung fu!) but thats just where we agree to disagree.
It's important that you know yourself, these are just ideas you believe strongly in (which is fine) not actual facts. So it's useless to keep drilling us with the 'idea' that we're all connected, when in reality the only thing that connects us is the internet that WE created :)
I haven't even started recruiting for the new compound we are building!!!! ;D ;D ;D
Seriously though, I really am not uptight about this stuff. I couldn't agree with you more that we are human and don't know shit. It's why I don't believe everything that is presented as "SCIENCE". I think I have stated a few times that I have faith that the Bible is true, not evidence. I also think the only evidence I have claimed to have is that evolution is NOT true. I have never said you should believe my story, but don't think that evolution is fact based, cause it's not. Most people have commented about what I believe without presenting there own beliefs. Kung fu??Don't make me open up a can of whoop :shakin: on ya!!!!
:lolhaha:
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Re: Creation and evolution aside,
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Originally Posted by luvfightgame
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Originally Posted by miles
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Originally Posted by luvfightgame
I dont just accept opinions without facts to back them up. Its just the way I am.
That is very reasonable, and in theory I believe you. Lets look at what you do believe now that you've told us what you don't believe.
Big bang theory?
Evolution meaning change in species, not change within a species?
So where are the facts to support the existence of your "god"? First of all define what you mean by god and then show me the facts to support the existence of god. The Bible proves the existence of god in exactly the same way as the Lord of the Rings books proves the existence of Sauron. It doesnt convince me in the slightest. If you can convince me otherwise then im all ears...
Well you didn't answer my 2 questions, but here goes.
I define God as the originator of all things. Everything that we see and don't see was made by the creator. That's my definition for this discussion. Facts to support the existence of a creator are everything that you see in your daily life. Highly complex, self repairing, self replicating life forms. You don't believe that the computer your typing on sprang into existence by random chance, why would you think humans did when they are literally hundreds of times more complex than your computer?
Your turn.
Do you believe in the big bang theory?
Do you believe in evolution as change in species?
You are right, I didnt answer those 2 questions. I wasnt being ignorant, just suffering from jet lag and time boundaries kicking into me! :-\
On the knowledge that I have, then yes, I believe in big bang theory. I know earth is not sat atop a big fat turtle and I know the earth is not the centre of the universe....my rationale for the big bang theory comes from a gradual evolution of recordable scientific data
Do I believe in evolution as change in species? Im a little confused by the meaning of the question. Can you be more specific? I dont want to make a faux pas by making a rash response to a question im not too sure that I know the meaning of entirely. I believe in evolution on the limited knowledge that I have.
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I don't wanna hear about your jet lag, just turned 21 last saturday
Vomited 16 times, damn alcohol poisoning :(
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Re: Creation and evolution aside,
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Originally Posted by miles
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Originally Posted by luvfightgame
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Originally Posted by miles
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Originally Posted by luvfightgame
I dont just accept opinions without facts to back them up. Its just the way I am.
That is very reasonable, and in theory I believe you. Lets look at what you do believe now that you've told us what you don't believe.
Big bang theory?
Evolution meaning change in species, not change within a species?
So where are the facts to support the existence of your "god"? First of all define what you mean by god and then show me the facts to support the existence of god. The Bible proves the existence of god in exactly the same way as the Lord of the Rings books proves the existence of Sauron. It doesnt convince me in the slightest. If you can convince me otherwise then im all ears...
Well you didn't answer my 2 questions, but here goes.
I define God as the originator of all things. Everything that we see and don't see was made by the creator. That's my definition for this discussion. Facts to support the existence of a creator are everything that you see in your daily life. Highly complex, self repairing, self replicating life forms. You don't believe that the computer your typing on sprang into existence by random chance, why would you think humans did when they are literally hundreds of times more complex than your computer?
Your turn.
Do you believe in the big bang theory?
Do you believe in evolution as change in species?
You are right, I didnt answer those 2 questions. I wasnt being ignorant, just suffering from jet lag and time boundaries kicking into me! :-\
On the knowledge that I have, then yes, I believe in big bang theory. I know earth is not sat atop a big fat turtle and I know the earth is not the centre of the universe....my rationale for the big bang theory comes from a gradual evolution of recordable scientific rationale
Do I believe in evolution as change in species? Im a little confused by the meaning of the question. Can you be more specific? I dont want to make a faux pas by making a rash response to a question im not too sure that I know the meaning of entirely. I believe in evolution on the limited knowledge that I have.
Evolution as change in species means dinosaurs into birds, progression from one type into another. As opposed to varations that occur within a species. I believe that dogs can interbreed, adapt, etc into another type of dog, but no matter how many times you crossbreed them they won't turn into a cat or other species.... Do you believe that all life evolved from one single celled life form and eventually adapted and changed into the varieties we see now?
Are you very knowledgable about the big bang theory, or do you have a general understanding? For example many people have an opinion about the Bible. They say...i've never read it, but i've heard about it and I do or don't believe it.
Do you have a working knowledge of the specifics about the big bang theory or do you have a general understanding from basic elements you heard years ago in school? I am asking so I know where to start, and not be overly technical or overly basic.
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Re: Creation and evolution aside,
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Originally Posted by raleights
I don't wanna hear about your jet lag, just turned 21 last saturday
Vomited 16 times, damn alcohol poisoning :(
You sound bloody Korean, pal!! ;D
They leave the streets awash with vomit, UNBELIEVABLY so....we drink too much and get messy now and then. Here its not unusual to see vomit in the toilets at 9 in the evening!! :-\
Hope your night was good up until the whole vomiting biz!!
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Re: Creation and evolution aside,
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Originally Posted by raleights
I don't wanna hear about your jet lag, just turned 21 last saturday
Vomited 16 times, damn alcohol poisoning :(
Here's some evidence for you the Bible is true......
Who hath woe? who hath sorrow? who hath contentions? who hath babbling? who hath wounds without cause? who hath redness of eyes? They that tarry long at the wine; they that go to seek mixed wine. Look not thou upon the wine when it is red, when it giveth his colour in the cup, [when] it moveth itself aright. At the last it biteth like a serpent, and stingeth like an adder.
Thine eyes shall behold strange women, and thine heart shall utter perverse things. Yea, thou shalt be as he that lieth down in the midst of the sea, or as he that lieth upon the top of a mast. They have stricken me, [shalt thou say, and] I was not sick; they have beaten me, [and] I felt [it] not: when shall I awake? I will seek it yet again.
:puke: :lolololol:
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It was my friend, but the last thing I remember was this real cute chick that I've been crushing on for a while came up to me - I started talking to her but it was at that point I was too drunk to know exactly what was being said. Haven't talked to her since, probably don't want to either O0
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Re: Creation and evolution aside,
4 beers, 3 shots of patron, and 2 long island ice teas on a near empty stomache
obviously I don't have too much experience with the booz ;)
wacko was supposed to warn me ahead of time
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Re: Creation and evolution aside,
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Originally Posted by luvfightgame
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Originally Posted by miles
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Originally Posted by luvfightgame
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Originally Posted by miles
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Originally Posted by luvfightgame
I dont just accept opinions without facts to back them up. Its just the way I am.
That is very reasonable, and in theory I believe you. Lets look at what you do believe now that you've told us what you don't believe.
Big bang theory?
Evolution meaning change in species, not change within a species?
So where are the facts to support the existence of your "god"? First of all define what you mean by god and then show me the facts to support the existence of god. The Bible proves the existence of god in exactly the same way as the Lord of the Rings books proves the existence of Sauron. It doesnt convince me in the slightest. If you can convince me otherwise then im all ears...
Well you didn't answer my 2 questions, but here goes.
I define God as the originator of all things. Everything that we see and don't see was made by the creator. That's my definition for this discussion. Facts to support the existence of a creator are everything that you see in your daily life. Highly complex, self repairing, self replicating life forms. You don't believe that the computer your typing on sprang into existence by random chance, why would you think humans did when they are literally hundreds of times more complex than your computer?
Your turn.
Do you believe in the big bang theory?
Do you believe in evolution as change in species?
You are right, I didnt answer those 2 questions. I wasnt being ignorant, just suffering from jet lag and time boundaries kicking into me! :-\
On the knowledge that I have, then yes, I believe in big bang theory. I know earth is not sat atop a big fat turtle and I know the earth is not the centre of the universe....my rationale for the big bang theory comes from a gradual evolution of recordable scientific rationale
Do I believe in evolution as change in species? Im a little confused by the meaning of the question. Can you be more specific? I dont want to make a faux pas by making a rash response to a question im not too sure that I know the meaning of entirely. I believe in evolution on the limited knowledge that I have.
Evolution as change in species means dinosaurs into birds, progression from one type into another. As opposed to varations that occur within a species. I believe that dogs can interbreed, adapt, etc into another type of dog, but no matter how many times you crossbreed them they won't turn into a cat or other species.... Do you believe that all life evolved from one single celled life form and eventually adapted and changed into the varieties we see now?
Are you very knowledgable about the big bang theory, or do you have a general understanding? For example many people have an opinion about the Bible. They say...i've never read it, but i've heard about it and I do or don't believe it.
Do you have a working knowledge of the specifics about the big bang theory or do you have a general understanding from basic elements you heard years ago in school? I am asking so I know where to start, and not be overly technical or overly basic.
Right, I now understand your question regarding evolution. Yes, I believe life originated and evolved from single celled forms.
I have a general understanding of the big bang theory. My field is not science but that does not mean I dont have the ability to dip my fingers into it or understand concepts. Does anyone have a real working knowledge of the big bang? After all, It is just a theory. But we have data supporting the theaory behind the big bang..
We will be debating the merits of string theory next and even now many important physicists are debunking it.
Theories are mere theories until proving otherwise...
But recordable data can support those theories....or prove otherwise...
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Re: Creation and evolution aside,
just like a ruler can prove that emma's penis is bigger than mine
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Re: Creation and evolution aside,
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Originally Posted by raleights
4 beers, 3 shots of patron, and 2 long island ice teas on a near empty stomache
obviously I don't have too much experience with the booz ;)
wacko was supposed to warn me ahead of time
Shouldnt Wacko have his onw booze advice threads somewhere on this site? ;D ???
On an empty stomach you did alright, I try never to drink with an empty belly. It can be disastrous!! :P
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I think the real sollution is not drinking, for this lightweight anyway
The killer buzz, dancing, and flirting all seemed fine and dandy up until it was time to hug the toilet - so not worth it :)
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Re: Creation and evolution aside,
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Originally Posted by raleights
I think the real sollution is not drinking, for this lightweight anyway
The killer buzz, dancing, and flirting all seemed fine and dandy up until it was time to hug the toilet - so not worth it :)
Actually in korea ive become accustomed to just drinking at my pace. Which is quite slow these days, but over a longer time...
I went back home and we all buy rounds of beers and they all drink a pint every 15 minutes....that was the toughest part of going back home...just drinking the beer at those speeds!! ;D
It goes straight through you and you always have a new pint in front of you! I wont go home for another year!! ;D :-\
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Re: Creation and evolution aside,
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Originally Posted by raleights
I think the real sollution is not drinking, for this lightweight anyway
The killer buzz, dancing, and flirting all seemed fine and dandy up until it was time to hug the toilet - so not worth it :)
Sounds like you are a fast learner.... Took me about 12 years to decide it really wasn't worth it.....
:alcoholic:
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Re: Creation and evolution aside,
Miles,
First question...
Where did all of the matter to form the universe come from?
The law of conservation of energy states that energy cannot be created or destroyed. While it can be transformed from one form to another, the total amount of energy in the universe remains constant. Scientists in all fields, including astronomy, biology, chemistry, physics, and Earth science use this idea every day: The total amount of energy remains constant no matter what changes happen in any physical system.
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Re: Creation and evolution aside,
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Originally Posted by luvfightgame
Miles,
First question...
Where did all of the matter to form the universe come from?
The law of conservation of energy states that energy cannot be created or destroyed. While it can be transformed from one form to another, the total amount of energy in the universe remains constant. Scientists in all fields, including astronomy, biology, chemistry, physics, and Earth science use this idea every day: The total amount of energy remains constant no matter what changes happen in any physical system.
Science has made a lot of developments for explaining the world in the last few hundred years. What has religious scripture really advanced? The further continuence of old wives tales?
Science is not yet ready to explain the creation of the universe but then again the bible has never been able to do so either. Science continues to evolve and let us understand more fully. The bible remains frozen in time.
It sounds a bit harsh perhaps but maybe there is no god and perhaps the universe is godless...is that so hard to deal with? I dont think so, god plays no part in your daily life so why worry about the higher question that shows no sign of existing anyways?
You need a god in your life and others dont..if that makes you more content then so be it....
What is you definition of heaven? Im so, so intrigued! :)
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Re: Creation and evolution aside,
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Originally Posted by miles
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Originally Posted by luvfightgame
Miles,
First question...
Where did all of the matter to form the universe come from?
The law of conservation of energy states that energy cannot be created or destroyed. While it can be transformed from one form to another, the total amount of energy in the universe remains constant. Scientists in all fields, including astronomy, biology, chemistry, physics, and Earth science use this idea every day: The total amount of energy remains constant no matter what changes happen in any physical system.
Science has made a lot of developments for explaining the world in the last few hundred years. What has religious scripture really advanced? The further continuence of old wives tales?
Science is not yet ready to explain the creation of the universe but then again the bible has never been able to do so either. Science continues to evolve and let us understand more fully. The bible remains frozen in time.
It sounds a bit harsh perhaps but maybe there is no god and perhaps the universe is godless...is that so hard to deal with? I dont think so, god plays no part in your daily life so why worry about the higher question that shows no sign of existing anyways?
You need a god in your life and others dont..if that makes you more content then so be it....
What is you definition of heaven? Im so, so intrigued! :)
I'll interpret that to mean "I don't know".
One topic at a time, I would love to express my beliefs, but we are busy debating the "facts" of evolution.
Next question....
If all the matter was compressed together and began swirling around then exploded.... Every object in the universe would be spinning in the same direction. Why are some planets and moons both revolving and rotating in different directions than the rest of the planets?
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Re: Creation and evolution aside,
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Originally Posted by raleights
Tom Cruise...what a twat...
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Re: Creation and evolution aside,
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Originally Posted by luvfightgame
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Originally Posted by miles
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Originally Posted by luvfightgame
Miles,
First question...
Where did all of the matter to form the universe come from?
The law of conservation of energy states that energy cannot be created or destroyed. While it can be transformed from one form to another, the total amount of energy in the universe remains constant. Scientists in all fields, including astronomy, biology, chemistry, physics, and Earth science use this idea every day: The total amount of energy remains constant no matter what changes happen in any physical system.
Science has made a lot of developments for explaining the world in the last few hundred years. What has religious scripture really advanced? The further continuence of old wives tales?
Science is not yet ready to explain the creation of the universe but then again the bible has never been able to do so either. Science continues to evolve and let us understand more fully. The bible remains frozen in time.
It sounds a bit harsh perhaps but maybe there is no god and perhaps the universe is godless...is that so hard to deal with? I dont think so, god plays no part in your daily life so why worry about the higher question that shows no sign of existing anyways?
You need a god in your life and others dont..if that makes you more content then so be it....
What is you definition of heaven? Im so, so intrigued! :)
I'll interpret that to mean "I don't know".
One topic at a time, I would love to express my beliefs, but we are busy debating the "facts" of evolution.
Next question....
If all the matter was compressed together and began swirling around then exploded.... Every object in the universe would be spinning in the same direction. Why are some planets and moons both revolving and rotating in different directions than the rest of the planets?
And you know nothing too...after all you believe in the world of the 900 year old men. keep reading that bible, dude. It tells you all. I wont even credit the bible with a capital letter, it aint worth gods time to worry about.
You know nothing except what your self righteous nut job faith tells you too...we have a conflict of opinion here, but im sure the majority of people that read will think you are the bigger nut job than me. Im sure that this must relate to your life outside of here too, because most people dont think like you....very weird! ;D
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Re: Creation and evolution aside,
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Originally Posted by miles
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Originally Posted by luvfightgame
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Originally Posted by miles
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Originally Posted by luvfightgame
Miles,
First question...
Where did all of the matter to form the universe come from?
The law of conservation of energy states that energy cannot be created or destroyed. While it can be transformed from one form to another, the total amount of energy in the universe remains constant. Scientists in all fields, including astronomy, biology, chemistry, physics, and Earth science use this idea every day: The total amount of energy remains constant no matter what changes happen in any physical system.
Science has made a lot of developments for explaining the world in the last few hundred years. What has religious scripture really advanced? The further continuence of old wives tales?
Science is not yet ready to explain the creation of the universe but then again the bible has never been able to do so either. Science continues to evolve and let us understand more fully. The bible remains frozen in time.
It sounds a bit harsh perhaps but maybe there is no god and perhaps the universe is godless...is that so hard to deal with? I dont think so, god plays no part in your daily life so why worry about the higher question that shows no sign of existing anyways?
You need a god in your life and others dont..if that makes you more content then so be it....
What is you definition of heaven? Im so, so intrigued! :)
I'll interpret that to mean "I don't know".
One topic at a time, I would love to express my beliefs, but we are busy debating the "facts" of evolution.
Next question....
If all the matter was compressed together and began swirling around then exploded.... Every object in the universe would be spinning in the same direction. Why are some planets and moons both revolving and rotating in different directions than the rest of the planets?
And you know nothing too...after all you believe in the world of the 900 year old men. keep reading that bible, dude. It tells you all. I wont even credit the bible with a capital letter, it aint worth gods time to worry about.
You know nothing except what your self righteous nut job faith tells you too...we have a conflict of opinion here, but im sure the majority of people that read will think you are the bigger nut job than me. Im sure that this must relate to your life outside of here too, because most people dont think like you....very weird! ;D
Forgive me for being less than charming there people...It had to come out...
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Re: Creation and evolution aside,
I'll interpret that second answer to be "I don't know" also.
Why so hot under the collar. You have surely got some evidence to support your belief right???
Or do you just believe it, just like I believe the Bible?
Here is the fact....
The big bang theory isn't based on fact. It is a belief. Therefore it is a religion not science.
Don't get too upset, that was only 2 questions and you had to put me in my place.....
:appl: :bawling:
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Re: Creation and evolution aside,
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Originally Posted by luvfightgame
I'll interpret that second answer to be "I don't know" also.
Why so hot under the collar. You have surely got some evidence to support your belief right???
Or do you just believe it, just like I believe the Bible?
Here is the fact....
The big bang theory isn't based on fact. It is a belief. Therefore it is a religion not science.
Don't get too upset, that was only 2 questions and you had to put me in my place.....
:appl: :bawling:
You believe in the existence of 900= year old men with nothing to support your claim....if all of your theories come around to this then you look profoundly dumb...
;D still, if that is what you belive. that is cool, wth me!! ;)
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Re: Creation and evolution aside,
I didn't try to sell my idea to you. I have stated numerous times it is my belief. I have faith.... not evidence. Your theory claims to have evidence when it doesn't.
Why is this theory taught as if it were absolute truth when there is no evidence to support this????
Why do people get so pissed off when defending "science" and the evolution theory???
I am seriously hoping you can answer those questions.
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Re: Creation and evolution aside,
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Originally Posted by luvfightgame
I didn't try to sell my idea to you. I have stated numerous times it is my belief. I have faith.... not evidence. Your theory claims to have evidence when it doesn't.
Why is this theory taught as if it were absolute truth when there is no evidence to support this????
Why do people get so pissed off when defending "science" and the evolution theory???
I am seriously hoping you can answer those questions.
I have always tried to give my time back to arguments like this, but its seems so pointless.
You are so obviously stuck in your relgio/bullshite routine that fact has no bearing on you...
You may as well be David Irvine repoting on the atrocities of Nazi Germany....I just dont believe you...because you aint got no facts anyways...
Jesus walked on water did he....and Michael Jackson is a modern saint!!! ;)
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Re: Creation and evolution aside,
Can you read????
I will write it real big for you.....
[size=10pt]I DIDN'T TRY TO PRESENT EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT MY BELIEFS. I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I BELIEVE THE BIBLE BY FAITH. NOT EVIDENCE.[/size]
You wouldn't know if fact has any bearing on me cause you haven't presented any. You got pissed off and resorted to name calling when you couldn't answer a couple of simple questions.
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Re: Creation and evolution aside,
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Originally Posted by luvfightgame
If all the matter was compressed together and began swirling around then exploded.... Every object in the universe would be spinning in the same direction. Why are some planets and moons both revolving and rotating in different directions than the rest of the planets?
Come on, Luvfightgame, basic Physics 101 teaches (and proves) that is not true. Why should they spin in the same direction in a multidimensional vacuum. This is a basic provable fact.
It's the simple little things that you get wrong, yet speak so knowingly about, that weaken your arguments?
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Re: Creation and evolution aside,
Really?? Did I write this ridiculous theory???
Approximately 13.7 billion years ago, the entirety of our universe was compressed into the confines of an atomic nucleus. Known as a singularity, this is the moment before creation when space and time did not exist. According to the prevailing cosmological models that explain our universe, an ineffable explosion, trillions of degrees in temperature on any measurement scale, that was infinitely dense, created not only fundamental subatomic particles and thus matter and energy but space and time itself. Cosmology theorists combined with the observations of their astronomy colleagues have been able to reconstruct the primordial chronology of events known as the big bang.
Quantum theory suggests that moments after the explosion at 10 -43 second, the four forces of nature; strong nuclear, weak nuclear, electromagnetic and gravity were combined as a single "super force"(Wald). Elementary particles known as quarks begin to bond in trios, forming photons, positrons and netrinos and were created along with their antiparticles. There are minuscule amounts of protons and neutrons at this stage; approximately 1 for every one billion photons, neutrinos or electrons (Maffei). The density of the Universe in its first moment of life is thought to have been 1094g/cm3 with the majority of this being radiation. For each billion pairs of these heavy particles (hadrons) that were created, one was spared annihilation due to particle-antiparticle collisions. The remaining particles constitute the majority of our universe today (Novikov).
So you are saying the vacuum existed prior to the explosion? Please elaborate on this........................
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Re: Creation and evolution aside,
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However if you believe in God, you no longer are limited to trying to explain the impossible through random chance alone.
Believing that God created everything is pretty limiting, don't ya think?
Life is not impossible, it's not a miracle.
exactly....most people need something to give them meaning.....they can't accept the fact that we are just here......but if that makes them a better person and not a hypocrate then that is cool....but keep that SH*T to yourself......more people have been killed because of this "GOD" character than anything else...Radical Muslims, The Crusades, George W. Bush...the list is too long to mention.....
You are sadly mistaken about who is behind the crusades. Also it's the religion that promotes evolution; secular humanism that is recommending eliminating 9/10ths of the worlds population.
THE MESSAGE OF THE GEORGIA GUIDESTONES
1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
2. Guide reproduction wisely - improving fitness and diversity.
3. Unite humanity with a living new language.
4. Rule passion - faith - tradition - and all things with tempered reason.
5. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
6. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
7. Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
8. Balance personal rights with social duties.
9. Prize truth - beauty - love - seeking harmony with the infinite.
10.Be not a cancer on the earth - Leave room for nature - Leave room for nature.
Limiting the population of the earth to 500 million will require the extermination of nine-tenths of the world's people. The American Stonehenge's reference to establishing a world court foreshadows the current move to create an International Criminal Court and a world government. The Guidestones' emphasis on preserving nature anticipates the environmental movement of the 1990s, and the reference to "seeking harmony with the infinite" reflects the current effort to replace Judeo-Christian beliefs with a new spirituality.
The message of the American Stonehenge also foreshadowed the current drive for Sustainable Development. Any time you hear the phrase "Sustainable Development" used, you should substitute the term "socialism" to be able to understand what is intended. Later in this syllabus you will read the full text of the Earth Charter which was compiled under the direction of Mikhail Gorbachev and Maurice Strong. In that document you will find an emphasis on the same basic issues: control of reproduction, world governance, the importance of nature and the environment, and a new spirituality. The similarity between the ideas engraved on the Georgia Guidestones and those espoused in the Earth Charter reflect the common origins of both.
so you pick one thing and try to make some BS Goergia Stones crap.....The rusades were fought over religion....it wasn't East vs west.....or North vs South......it was religions fighting with other religions.....anything to say about current affairs?
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Re: Creation and evolution aside,
Did I make that up? And what is b.s. about it?
If you would like to start a different thread to present information and debate about the crusades then I will gladly address it. However this thread was about creation vs evolution, and it continually gets sidetracked with people giving philosophical reasons for why God doesn't exist.
If there is so much scientific evidence to disprove creation, why hasn't anyone presented any? Your reasons for there not being a God have nothing to do with science, or evolution.
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Re: Creation and evolution aside,
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Originally Posted by luvfightgame
Can you read????
I will write it real big for you.....
[size=10pt]I DIDN'T TRY TO PRESENT EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT MY BELIEFS. I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I BELIEVE THE BIBLE BY FAITH. NOT EVIDENCE.[/size]
You wouldn't know if fact has any bearing on me cause you haven't presented any. You got pissed off and resorted to name calling when you couldn't answer a couple of simple questions.
I can read quite well, and yes, I did get somewhat irritable with you. No real offence intended but your "faith" can be a little tedious when I am suffering from tiredness and jetlag! :-\
At the end of the day, and I will reiterate once more. Science tries to offer more than just faith. It tries to offer theories and also recordable evidence to either support or disprove the said theory. This is way more palatable to me than to just read the bible and say "good stories. I may as well base my life on this then". I cannot and will not follow a faith blindly.
The big bang is indeed just a theory itself, but we have evidence to support the theory. That is good enough for me.
